G51 Owners' Lounge

A place for G51 owners of all types to discuss their machines.

Useful links about the ASUS G51.
Compiled by sunnyc90 and E.B.E. Last update: March 6th 2009


Reviews:

• Sunny's G51VX - RX05 Review
• xcskiier23's G51VX-RX05 Review
• Stamp's G51VX-A1 Review
• madpoet's G51VX-X1A (NewEgg) review

Guides, Tweaks, & Troubleshooting Common Issues:

• TevashSzat's An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51
• TevashSzat's An Analysis of the Asus G51's Temperature Issues
• kondor999's ASUS G51 Cooling mod
• thalanix's Asus G51J CPU throttling investigation.
• thalanix's [SOLVED] Asus G51J BSoD thread - part 2. Part 1 is here: Dragokld's G51j Blue screen of death problems.
• den4ps's Epic G51 Display Mod w/ Pics - Not for the faint of heart (hardware upgrade to a higher-resolution display).
• DashTheHand's G51Vx Screen Transplant - SUCCESS! (hardware upgrade to a higher-resolution display).

Info and future product releases:

• butter30's the new asus G51

 

nice one man

i hope i can get one too

 

brunoroc stop spamming every thread you find!

 

I want one!!! If anybody gets a G51 and don't like it, I'm willing to trade my N50 for it

 

heh, I traded in my FX 7805 for this... Couldn't be happier... Only thing I miss is the OLED display on the other Asus notebooks, But its a fair trade for the lit keyboard.

 

blackdragun- Have you been experiencing any overheating with your G51 yet? Some people are skeptical about buying it because of all this extreme overheating talk about the model.

 

A agree with you tavara. Brunoroc why are you writing this if it doesn't bring anything into the topic. You've wrote about 5 times now "i hope i can get one". What is the point of writing that? Its just makes it harder to read the thread...

Ur recent posts classify to SPAM and OFF- topic

Read the "new asus g51" thread. Seems like all models have overheating issues right out of the box.

 

lololololololololololololol

 

Think you are taking the message board just a tad too seriously? I mean there is no way to control the specific content of every post, especially when the content is probably not written with ill intentions. I have to say I hate his avatar though. Its really distracting. Almost flat out disgusting and inappropriate.

 

No he isn't. It is spamming and it's just adding more useless posts to a thread that will eventually be hundreds of pages. Hate to take it offtopic but it has to be said to stop now.

 

how am i spamming ???

i was just saying to sunny that his idea of creating this lounge was pretty good and thats it...

sorry if im "spamming" cuz im just trying to help some ppl (not this thread) and i want to know more about the g51 cuz im about to buy it

just chill cuz im not the only one and sorry about spamming and ruining this thread

 

Glad that I'm not the only one who's bothered by it

 

So far multiple hours of Warcraft at max settings and no overheats, Also left 4 Dead with 16x AA/AF and same. I've yet to use any temp monitors, But I can say for sure the air from the vents are coming out cooler then the FX...

 

good to hear. Maybe it was just the first few models that went out that had the problem.

+1 G51 vs 0 G71

 

Hmm if thats the case then I might consider this over a refurb G50Vt-X1

 

Let the ignore list be your friend.

 

Works great, even cures blue tongues.

Learux

 

if you want to help the forum do this! download hwmonitor 1.14 64 bit edition run it in back ground, run 3dmark06, 3dmark03, crysis, and or DMC4 benchmark and then take a screenshot of hwmonitor and show us the temps, so far the only three real users who can prove stuff by showing these screenshots that have aasus g51 all show the same gpu temps!

so stop being a newbie and saying it runs cool without showing us the facts

 

wow. someone has some anger issues... Look man, I'm providing my experience with the notebook and if you care not to listen that is just fine by me. If real world performance is not your bag then you can enjoy being a benchmark addict and never know how the notebook performs in real situations. Which for me has been just f***ing fine...

Ill get around to benchmarking when I'm not busy actually enjoying my PC, k. (Not anytime soon)

 

I fully agree. He is in the other thread too acting all rude, seems like he just pissed off his laptop is burning up. He is demanding people to post specific things here, anything people say is VOLUNTARY, so back off and stop ordering people around.

 

lol you quoted me while I "PC-d" my own post! XD

 

how am i ordering ppl to do stuff? I am asking users to post the facts like Sunny90 did, I did, and the other asus g51 user did and we have all the same results, someone saying their real world experience is great and makes the notebook cooler without showing the facts and evidence at hand is not helping the situation or the curiousity about the overheat temp that 3 asus g51 owners have gotten.

when someone comes to the thread and says there laptops is cool its working great and they dont have the gpu issue doesnt say much...

I did play crysis and DMC4 for 10 minutes and gpu temps got up to 99c

I ran furmark stress tester for 5 minutes and gpu temp monitor thats built in got up to 105c with fan on full blast..

that is real world performance, go read all the other msg forums and threads on the 260M GTX mobile gpu in sager and alienware laptops, the people there post the temps using the same monitor, they post gpu-z screenshots. they post stress tests and benchmark and game benchmarks which I have done..

thats the standard as far as I can see to show whats going on with a brand new laptop and gpu and cpu as far as i am concerned.

if you cant meet the standard to show what your laptop is doing, i beleive its pretty much pointless to say it runs great and cool (very vague statement)

im not angry I just want everyone to go by the standard and post there temps so I can let asus know since im going to be in direct contact with an engineer from there...

if you cant do these things then fine dont help out anyone..

and down the road in 90 days when the gpu is giving corruptions, BSODS, nvidia driver errors and all this crap and everyone is crying the G51 is not working at all right, youll wonder why..

 

skyhawk has a point. Basically you don't come and brag and say yours is working all fine. Either prove it or don't post, because what is the point really? Right now we know theres 3 G51s that have high GPU temps. That's it, and it's posted with evidence. Not hating on anyone here. Just being practical. If we had like 10 people saying GPU temps are ok, that's a different story.

 

we are not saying you're wrong for being concerned about your temps, because we are all surprised by the high temps. we are also glad it was reported so they can fix it. because from the sager forums and reviews, temps shouldn't get that high. with the sager np8862/clevo m860tu, the furmark stress test peaked at 87C. 18C less than what you reported on yours. keep in mind that the test with the m860tu was done for 30mins.

 

we are doing a great tribute by making this thread all firey and hot.

On one or two translated reviews of the G51, it said that the screen could not fully utilise the 260M?

 

Pretty sure they only meant because of the lower resolution, the card wasn't being used to its full potential. But that's all I remember hearing about.

 

has anyone seen and compared the sager NP 8662 and this Asus G51 yet? They are both running the same graphics cards. The G51 definitely costs less and has a built-in number pad, something I was seeking. I'm beginning to suspect I should have waited before making my laptop decision :X

edit: whoops. numpad, not keyboard. That would be silly for a laptop not to have a keyboard.

 

The NP8662 should have a "built-in" keyboard as well

To me, cost is the only major benefit from the G51. I would definitely get the NP8662 if their price are equal. You should definitely enjoy your NP8662. It's a great machine.

 

How much is the NP8662?

 

Depends on the specs on your machine, mine ran me about $1500 (see signature for specs)

 

I have a question for G51 owners. I am posting it here since it is a G51 owners lounge. If you use an external monitor and turn off the laptop LCD, do you think it will heat up the graphics card so much that it will damage it ?
Also, does it put more load on the GPU if you clone the lcd with the external monitor ?

Thanks in advance.

 

I just "customized" and I have to ask...I put the RAM up to 4GB, but I am trying to figure out which HDD to get.

For games, performance wise, would 5400rpm vs 7200rpm make a big difference? Or would that JUST effect load times? If so, by how much? If the difference isnt too bad, I will just get a 250GB 5400rpm HDD....As long as the games like Crysis will still run fine (I assume thats solely the GPU/CPU and RAM)

I am not picky about loadtimes, if thats all the rpm will effect.

Thanks.

Im trying to save as much money as I can

 

For gaming, worry about CPU and GPU, not HDD. Sure it's maybe a bit faster but if you are really tight 5400 is fine. I mean there's a reason its still in notebooks right? It'll suffice.

 

Well..the high temperatures that have been posted are all from either stress tests or play very demanding games. Normal usage should never approach temperatures that high so I'd say that if you don't game at all or just very little, you most likely have nothing to worry about.

 

Hi,
I am getting this notebook very soon, but I have a question about temps as well.
I will post temp data soon, but if I play some less modern games, the temps should not reach 90C after 10 minutes right? I play for at least 2-4 hours at a time, so its important that the pc lasts.

 

I wonder if a second hard drive would make temps worse

 

Not much I guess. HDD heat are very minimal compared to CPU/GPU temps.

Are there other versions of the G51? The only model I know is from BB, and the P7350 2GHZ processor seems lackluster for me. But a G60 could be even better...

 

can i add a second 320GB HDD in raid 0 with the g51vx?

 

I believe you can run raid since it was possible on the G50... You'll need to get the bracket to be able to mount the second hdd.. I have posted the link on my review.

 

No you don't. It has that foam on both sides, so when you put in the drive it doesn't move... I've installed 500gb this way...

 

At the moment I dont think there are. Supposedly, both the G51 and the G71 are going to other vendors in mid-July. I would hope by the time I get one ( which I definitely plan on doing ), the heat issues are fixed. Im already plagued with one laptop that has heating issues, I dont need two in a row, especially from the same company.

Also, any word on MXM in this beast?

 

Welcome me guys! Just picked up my G51. I LOVE it.

 

Hey guys,

I also got a g51 today and I am starting to really feel this issue of overheating. Sunni you seem the most knowledgable on this topic, do you have any hope that this could be a software problem and that Asus will be on top of it soon? Or if it is a hardware problem would they consider a recall? To me this is certainly a large enough problem for either of the above, because it really does need to be fixed. If they aren't the kinda company that could give their customers some relief what would you do to help us get the most out of this laptop that is fairly safe? Underclock/overclock/take apart certain areas etc? Anything will help. I really dont want to resort to just having to keep up with this model as the better models come out and they wont look back at us or something.

 

Well IMO it's a GTX 260M, the second best Nvidia laptop card (correct me if I'm wrong but I can only think of the 280M). So to think it gets a little warm is normal, and just the way it is meant to be.

Compound with this fact that it's a smaller chassis with 1 fan.

 

Yes according to the newly expanded Nvidia Mobile GPU chart the GTX260M is the 2nd most powerful mobile solultion. It is nice to see that they are expanding the line of 200M and 100M GPUSs. I hope that the GTX260M in the G51 isnt another typo and really is a GTS260M. Is there a way to verify the # of processing cores in the G51s GPU (i.e. 112 GTX vs 96 GTS?)

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_m_series.html

 

So do you think watching a movie on external monitor using the optical drive would be fine, but playing a game (say Prince of persia/COD:modern warfare/Crysis/Prototype/something gpu intensive) on external monitor would heat it up so much that it can create problems?

 

Watching movies and such should be perfectly fine.

As of right now, it is still really not known whether there really is a big overheating system. It might be a few of the first batch runs a bit hot or that the laptop is designed to run at that temperature.

Anyways, I believe that with the temperatures that was being reported, I don't think theres any big risk with you frying your GPU or anything like that, but there may be a reduced life time of your laptop especially if you OC it like crazy.

 

use gpu-z. that should help

 

Run the computers like you normally would use them. If there is problems with heating you want it to find out asap.

Learux

 

It pretty much *has* to be the GTX 260m. One reason being is that the GTS 260m is a 40nm GPU, and as we all know, TMSC has been having issues with this fab. That being said, the GTX 260m ( which should still be called a 9800 something since its based on the G92 core, IMHO ) pretty much has to be in the Asus G51 and G71. The GTS 260m wont show up until the issues with TMSC are are done, and even then Nvidia would still need to make the GPUs, get them to manus, etc,etc, and while that may not take a long time, I would still expect at least 2 months between TMSC finishing their issues, and any OEM having a product ready to be mass produced and RTMed ( so maybe, sept? ).