M50Sv: Review & Owners' Lounge

When the screen is all black the bottom of the screen is noticeably whiter than the rest of the screen, to make the screen black you can use "dead pixel buddy" (google it)

 

Alright I gotchya...I think I have seen that before but it wasn't that crazy...IDK...User preference I guess...I LOVE MY LIGHT BLEED!

 

I definately agree with you about the furniture thing haha, I wouldn't be to worried though because this bios would be directly from AMI, the company that makes these. However it is probably smartest to not mess around with it unless asus releases a new bios but I'm not sure they will. I mean the m50sv's are discontinued now?

 

Thx mate, just what I needed to hear.

 

I just installed 176.05 drivers instead of 175.80 and they work much better! Also I think my framerates increased a little... if someone else installs this could you please do a framerate comparison before and after, I just don't want to reinstall the old ones again just to test framerates...

 

Is it possible to controll fan speed on this laptop? How?

 

Not until someone can hack the main bios...nothing works..not even speedfan or others...best thing to do is get a zalman cooler or something

 

Guys i would like to propose if we could have a discussion on the best drivers that we could get from laptopvideo2go for the m50sv-a1. I mean we could try out different drivers and share it wtith everybody like what is the best driver for overclocking without increasing the temps or what is the best driver for xp/vista. I guess this would help a lot of people especially those who want to have the best gamiung experience possible out of the 9500m gs card without scorching everything up =)

 

Yea using 175.80 drivers at 15 to 25 percent overclock makes it shut off at 20minutes of run time at like 86c and it shuts half the clocks off...i tried using 176.05 drivers but somehow i'm a re re and can't install it...avi did it so avi please tell me how

 

I think the best driver for xp is the 174.74 driver. I don't have my laptop yet but i've been reading a lot of forums =) anyone who has other thoughts/experience in optimizing the performance of this beast that they would like to share is very well appreciated -=)

 

Would it be possible to overclock and then undervolt to reduce temps? About the fan control thing - I'm working on getting a bios that would allow this but we'll see. Both of these things would help overclocking temps.

I'm using drivers 174.93 and idle around the high 50's and low 60's depending on how long my pc has been on and under load hit about 76 C. Haven't overclocked yet but thought these temps were decent.

 

wouldn't riva tuner's fan control work?

 

I've tried finding it in riva tuner but I think it's still locked up by bios. However, I'm not sure - has anyone else tried ?

 

I noticed that the ChkMail program is what lights up the e-mail button when you get a new e-mail. As I am using Mozilla Thunderbird, it doesn't work for me. I was wondering if anyone else uses Thunderbird and has found a way to get the e-mail light to light up when you get a new message. I have TB start minimized with a minimize-to-tray addon, and it autohides, so it'd be really nice if I could get that little light to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!

 

If you overclock and then undervolt your just downclocking again so No

 

Solved my own problem again. Solution is here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4540

You can stop chkmail.exe from running entirely. Who'd have thought someone would have made an addon specifically for that! (that took a little while to find, actually.) I tried many other solutions (there's another thread with several user-made chkmail.exe programs) but this one seems to work the best with no bugs. LED is lit up anytime you have an unread e-mail.

 

If you want to block anything from running just use the search box and look for msconfig.exe

Run that and then you can see all of your programs and processes that load at startup. Uncheck it and save.

Your done that program wont start again unless you do so manually or go back and re enable it. I recomend you do this for anything thats starting that you dont use regularly to increase system performance and reduce start up time.

 

Bored again...finally downloaded 3dmark06 after 8 hours of slow Iraq internet at 128k..pff can't wait to get back home...

 

I didn't think undervolting necessarily downclocked? I would think it would just limit your potential somewhat. What I'm trying to say is that even though the voltage might be higher than it is at your standard 2.5ghz, it could still be lower than your typical voltage when overclocked at 2.8ghz? So a cooler 2.8ghz results.

 

It is correct that undervolting will reduce heat without reducing performance for a given frequency -- assuming that the CPU is stable at that voltage and for that frequency.

But I'm not sure to what extent you can decrease voltages for overclocked frequency and still be stable...

 

I realize most if not all OC messages here refer to the m50sv A1, with its boss 2.5GHz T9300 CPU.
At the risk of becoming a pest (and of asking a truly stoopid question -- repeatedly), is there someone who knows anything about overclocking the A1's country cousin m50sv B1 model, which has a 2.1GHz T8100 CPU?

 

What's a re re?
What I did was download the driver package, extracted it, copied the modded inf into the installation folder (overwriting the original one) and it installed fine...

 

It's a retard haha..alright i'll try that...i was reading on 3dguru forums and these guys were talking about using the 177.41 drivers on there 8600's and up and I tried what you just said and I guess I can't get it but I'm gonna stick with 175.80's until I get bored again...

 

I didn't think you could undervolt while overclocking...i thought creating higher clocks used more voltage...IDK

 

I would think that the b1's cpu could be overclocked in the same way as the t9300. Check out http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=249470&highlight=set+fsb to see a tutorial how these cpu's are overclocked

As I understand it creating higher clocks does indeed need more voltage than a lower one but the whole thing about undevolting is that the standard voltage that the processor comes with is higher than necessary so when you start overclocking you may be increasing an already higher than necessary voltage... I'm no expert but it seems like you might could undervolt at least a small amount when you overclock and then lets say your 2.75ghz speed would have the same voltage as your 2.5ghz speed when it was shipped from asus(just an example may not be the case just because the voltage that intel sets from the beginning is an average votage that all the chips ship with). Now this is just my theory as I haven't had the time to actually try any of this

 

I have my CPU OCed and UVed. You just have to stress test per the SetFSB instructions to see what is stable. Obviously the higher that you OC the higher your frequency settings must be. Even at a 2.8 OC I am able to UV slightly from stock settings. I'm at work so I can't tell you what my settings are right now.

 

That's great thanks, Did it help your temps at all and can you undervolt with setFSB or did you use rmclock?

 

OC with SetFSB and UV with RMClock. The temps are slightly lower than the stock settings without OC. Some people have achieved significantly lower temps without an OC. Some chips are able to UV more than others.

 

I havn't been on the forums for awhile.

The M50Sv is still going strong, I love it. GRATZ to anyone and everyone that has got the beast!

 

dude, AMI doesn't release updated bios's for notebooks or desktop motherboards of any kind. they are the ones that design the generic bios and features, and its up to the manufacturers to design a motherboard around that and lock or unlock any types of features.

the only bios that will officially get released will come from Asus, its extremely rare that any 'user' releases an updated or more feature rich bios, in fact, i've never seen it in 10 years.

i wish it were different but it isn't.

 

hey, you'll likely run into the same limitations as the T9300, that is, you'll likely hit a top FSB near 960mhz, that is, 240mhz x4

so roughly 2.5ghz.

it seems better memory doesn't really help that much at all. it seems to be the P965 chipset that cant seem to go much higher than that without extra volts.

good luck and let me know whatyou can get up to!

 

you are making it more complicated than it is.

the cpu doesn't draw more voltage than its stock setting unless you can manually force it to. so far on notebooks there are seldom few that have those features available, specifically few sager/clevo models.

so, when you overclock, you are simply making the cpu/ram/chipset go faster than its default setting is at stock voltages.

most of the cpu's at 45nm 'penryn' will go much faster than 2.5ghz on stock voltages, and as a result you can often overclock their speed and even lower the stock voltage while maintaining a stable system.
hope that helps

 

i'm currently using the 177.41 drivers, and i installed the 177.66 drivers on my moms notebook yesterday, work fine.

head over to www.laptopvideo2go.com and read up on their nvision forum
they offer updated drivers with customized inf's to allow installation on notebook gpu's.

 

Alright this is awesome to know...thanks for clearing this up, and to you TMO...what about undervolting the GPU and ideas...

 

Alright I'm gonna look through it again right now...I read it was a great driver...but Still tryin to figure out how to do all that stuff...I'll let you know...

 

with regards to changing voltages in GPU's, typically you have to modify the bios of the video card.

so far, i haven't seen support in the popular gpu bios modifier Nibitor for the 9xxxM series gpu's. i'm desperately hoping that changes soon!

when you modify the bios, you can set your core and memory speeds, for full power 3d, low power 3d, and 2d stock settings.
you can also adjust the voltages used in each of those settings.
and depending on the motherboards bios, MIGHT be able to adjust the fan speed.
pretty sweet!!
look up nibitor and find he homepage and bug the guy to add support.
this is why i was asking others if they could get it to work on their systems, cuz it reboots my system, and i can't even download the vga bios without windows crashing.

the software guy needs the default bios file first, i'm pretty sure in order to enable functionality. http://www.mvktech.net/

 

Thank you for clearing that up Urbanos, I assumed (wrongly) that when you overclocked, voltages increased. and what your saying is its just a clock (multiplier?) thing. Taking this into account I'm guessing that the more you overclock the less potential you have to undervolt, as the higher speed would mean less stability (eg. you may be able to undervolt .2v at 2.5ghz but only .1 at 2.8ghz?)

And I have heard the same about undervolting the gpu, It may be too much trouble to undervolt with little result but it is interesting . The bios on these laptops doesnt allow for fan control, I posted a question in a mydigitallife forums (they mod bioses there) about unlocking some of these features

 

Hey got a problem with microphoen and speakers. When ever I talk or hit the built in microphone it comes through the speakers...these happens with a headset also...I have disabled the microphone altogether and it stills does the same thing any ideas

 

Go to your realtek sound manager and under the microphone tab enable the "Acoustic echo cancellation" and "Noise suppression".

 

EB just tried and rebooted but it's still doing it anymore ideas

 

Just downloaded 177.41 drivers...will do benchmark and post...with same OC settings I have now...last score was 5255 at 1280x720

 

Assuming that you are using Vista, go to the "Sound" item in your control panel. In the Playback tab, double click on speakers and go to the Level's tab. From there, turn down your "Microphone" level to 0. This will not impact recording.

If you are in XP, go to the Windows Sound Mixer and turn the "microphone" lever in PLAYBACK to mute or 0.

I think this should help.

--Woody

 

Didn't work either.....oh yeah and those drivers didn't change anything

 

Hey. I just found this after posting a thread a few days ago with question on how to avoid gpu downclock when on battery. It seemed impossible despite what power profile you were on but then I found this on the hardware and gaming forum, with powermizer on you can have a fully clocked card on battery
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=273276
Thank you xsmile!

 

yeah, updating drivers aren't specifically for improving 3dmark scores.

they update drivers to enable new and improved hardware features, and specifically problems with compatibility with games and other things.

so having updated drivers ensure you have the latest releases with the fewest problems. obviously noone can promise that these are true, but that's the intention at least.

 

i just really started playing around with RMclock. what an amazing program

i was able to undervolt the T9300 from 1.25v @ 2.5 down to 1.1375v @2.5-2.7 stable runs OCCT 2.0a for 20 mins, temps max out at 56-57. idle 41-42.

i was able to get 2.8ghz stable at 2.1volts, but for now, i think i'd prefer the lower power than the extra 300mhz.

oh, and, i just can't seem to get past 230fsb... sucks within seconds the screen goes fuzzy. timmeh.

 

Yea i noticed that too...before at my current gpu overclock it would cut clocks at 2 hours of playtime due to overheat...now I can play for I bet 4 hours at stable temps...I played grid at 1440x900 with 2xaa and vsync on for wo hours and got out of the game at 77c which is crazy...it never stuttered...177.41 are by far my favorite drivers right now

 

Anyone have anymore ideas for this microphone prob I got...maybe reinstalling the drivers again...hmmm

 

Are you using xp or vista? Some say that the 174.74 is also good =)

 

I'm using vista its in the sig