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Ahh okay. Thank you. To clarify, its 8 threads but 4 are running using that info hwmonitor should be able to watch the temps of what its doing then for vicious review. Correct me if I'm wrong. ^^

 

SERIOUSLY READ. What is wrong with you and others. The temps I posted have OC clocked 100 more to both GPU and CPU. That's why I included the information in the picture with the GPU/Mem clocks...

 

This is very important to me too. My reasons go beyond normal usage, but who ever said this machine was normal.

PLEASE, let me know if you find out.

 

What the... It's Quad Core with hyperthreading. So 8 threads at all times... You make it seem you think this has 8 cores but only 4 can be monitored.

 

nooo nooo i didn't mean to make it sound that way. I understand that.

 

Chill there chief....we understood that, but for those of us who don't overclock, those temps don't really mean a whole lot. I, and others were simply curious what the temps would like on standard clock speeds...and were relieved that they were significantly lower than your OC'd temps.

 

I know this is off subject, I want to say enjoy the super bowl yo! I'm rooting for the Saints!!1 GOGOGOG Who dat >< Frorm Iraq

 

+Rep looks like really nice tool.

 

Yep.

One of my favorties

 

Anyone know what version Catalyst the Asus drivers are based on? If not, any idea what the ID for the Mobile HD5870 is to see if I/we can mod Catalyst 9.12?

Also DirectX Redist for February: http://go.notebookreview.com/?id=52...FamilyID=0cef8180-e94a-4f56-b157-5ab8109cb4f5

 

Don't touch my mama
don't touch my Doritos

 

Please point all future n00bz to the link in my sig.

Thank you.

 

DriverHeaven says the Mobility modder tool will be updated for support with Cat 10.1 and ATi 5xxx series in 2 weeks. Apparently a lot of changes were made, but he has the help of ATi in this endeavor.

 

V,

Does the bios allow overclocking? i know its a long shot. haha. If not, what were you thinking of using to overclock?

 

there is no BIOS overclocking only the asus utility

 

Of course I cannot say anything about this laptop in particular. I was making a general statement in response to the guy who told another guy not to buy any laptop if he wanted to use it with the lid closed. Seriously, how hot would the LCD get with the lid closed? 35-40? So laptops can't be used in the summer either?

 

I'm not sure there's any logic behind the laptop still running with the screen closed...

If someone's already reported a catastrophe (there's a thread somewhere on NBR), then why chance it?

 

Did the beast come with the disks for all the preinstalled bloatware? So that if you do a clean install of Win 7, you can still install some utilities you think you'd like?

 

Hey guy wanted to chime in on the debate about the cooling solution.

My 2cents is this.

The G73 uses a smart and effective cooling solution that has added more benefits than disadvantages.

Explanation.

First of all the only negative thing so far is that you can not run the laptop with the lid closed. This was never a good idea in the first place as many laptops use the keyboard area to disperse the heat and it can effect the system temp to block it or damage the screen.

So its not like it effects the use of the machine just keep the lid open.

Now the great benifit I see that nobody else has mentioned (that I have seen) is that the #1 worst enemy to laptop cooling so far has been bad ventilation from the bottom. Why? Well not always is a laptop on a nice flat desk and even when it was there is only so much airspace on the desk and while it sits there heat can build up in that area. Now this unit can pull fresh cool air in from above with no restriction.

I have not tried it yet but it should also mean this is the first high performance laptop I have ever seen that should be ok to use on your bed or lap, the cloth and material wont be blocking the intake vents anymore. This to me is a lot larger of a benefit than any kind of loss from the cooling change.

The other small disadvantage is no real way to use a cooling pad, but there are vents on the bottom so we really do not know how effective a cooling pad will be until we try.

 

I ran Torchlight with the lid closed on my DELL9400 (e1705). It parity errored and bluscreened and said I should contact the vendor. This is what prompted me down the G73JH path in the first place. I DEFINITELY know that it was not a good idea. It was scorching hot under the lid when I opened it. I won't be doing that again with any laptop...well, maybe work ones cos they are designed to do that...

What happes if you throw a piece of foolscap on top of the keyboard? I know my desk isn't the cleanest and sheets of paper are always all over the place.

Looking forward to your reviews Vicious. I'm still on track for my G73JH with upgraded 820. Wavered there for a bit when that AW17x with i7 was mooted, but I stayed strong...

 

I'm very interested in this. Please let me (ok I guess you SHOULD share it with everybody, but me first ) know if/when you try using a cooler underneath and if it produces any significant results.

I automatically intend to buy a good quality cooler for whatever laptop I buy, but if I buy the G73 (please let that happen lol) and a cooler is useless, then I don't want to waste my money.

I think the most effective cooler for this laptop is going to be one of those little tiny battery powered fans that usually have clips on them. You could clip it on on your desk or something above the laptop and aim it at the keyboard.

 

Based on what the bottom of the G73 looks like, a cooler with one fan in the center would seem to be a good choice. Since Vic said that RAM operates at higher temps than the CPU or GPU, a cooler would keep your RAM cool. Someone pointed out that one of the three temps in AMD GPU Clock Tool is the RAM. I don't have my cooler anymore, but perhaps someone else can test to see if a cooler can help bring down the temp of the RAM, and if that is even necessary.

 

Not all work models though, I might just test mine to see what happens.

Precisely my point.

To be honest, I would think a cooling pad would help, even if minutely. It probably won't be particularly cost-effective due to the design, but if you already own one, doesn't hurt using it.

I was just thinking though, with this design, spilling anything on the keyboard would seem to be a recipe for disaster.

I'm also fairly curious as to see how airflow actually proceeds through the keyboard. I guess most importantly, you should keep the mesh vents clear.

Your general statement unfortunately is incorrect. Laptops can run hot enough for shutdowns or damage to occur. If you want to run it permanently with the lid closed, you certainly can, but don't be too upset if the LCD screen winds up being damaged for example. If you're not going to be running anything more intensive than office apps and the like, you're definitely going to be doing better than someone gaming with the lid closed. As mentioned by some of the other posters, it also depends on the use, and the laptop in question. And that particular poster in question did mention gaming.

My point was -

lid closed = more heat. More heat = bad for ALL laptops, catastrophic for others.

 

0100,

Vic was talking about the ati GPU ram, not the system ram.

The reading are for Gpu core, mem, and possibly shaders.

Also: This thread has misspelled "Official" in it's title.

LOL!

 

Well, I'd rather he spell it fical, as opposed to "fecal". That could be a crappy situation

 

A quick question for the actual owners: does closing the lid create a real "seal?" I ask because I remember in one of the early pics of the unit in profile with the lid closed there seemed to be a sizable gap between the lid and the palmrest, which is angled at the edge as we know. I thought at the time this might be to provide ample intake ventilation with the lid closed. But all I have seen is a picture; what do you folks who have one say?

 

When the lid is closed, the seal is pretty consistant everywhere except the palmrest area. As you pointed out, the palmrest slants down fora more ergonomic typing experience. That certainly leaves a gap, though not quite as pronounced as the asus literature. But having the lid closed is going to severely limit air intake.

The other thing I was thinking about was the cooler. Wouldn't the fans work against each other? While the internal fans work to pull air into the laptop, a cooler would try to pull it back out. This would seem to force the fans to fight each other.

 

Is anyone able to give some battery life numbers on this thing besides the pre-release gentech ones? Under idle? Under Load?

 

Need a few days to give you good numbers on this. You want the battery to have a few charge/discharge cycles to give accurate readings, and with us owners doing stuff like benchmarks and other things right now we are probably on AC power constantly and not using the battery. Battery life for me is the last testing I do for my reviews and something I usually add a few days after so that I can make sure I did proper calibration and charge/discharge cycles on the battery.

 

I most certainly am not incorrect. I am not engaging in mental master ba tion here. I was telling people what I have been doing for over 4 years with two different machines. Of course I don't expect that this could be done with every laptop in every usage pattern. I was calling out the blanket statement that it could not be done and the advice to simply not purchase any laptop if that was the desired usage pattern. And for the second time, who cares what happened with a guy that threw a comforter over his machine??? How is that relevant??? The obvious problem in that situation was the comforter. Are you really going to continue arguing that, especially when even for that situation, there was no permanent damage? But please don't misunderstand my intentions, I am not trying to get people to game with OC'd GPUs with their lid closed.

 

is there any reviewer getting a Core i7 820 or 920 CPU?

I will be very interested to see how much performance boost they have over base units and how much stable overclocking can be achieved with them.

 

Quad is replacing his 720 with a 920.

 

You are not entirely correct either. Depending on the laptop you have, closing lid can cause computer to overheat and shutdown. I had an Acer with destkop AMD64/Radeon 9600 would overheat if the lid was down. This one was designed like the G73 where the air intake was above the fan above the keyboard. I do not think closing the lid on the G73 will be a good idea.

 

Dude, do you think you might actually read what someone says before already formulating ur counterargument? Reread my post, particularly the bolded part.

 

Argument is pointless. It's been established that it wouldn't be a good idea to run the G73 while closed since it will block the air intakes. Not all other laptops are like this and some can be run closed safely; this has nothing to do with the G73. End. Now let's get on with the fine details of the G73 that aren't completely obvious like this one, please?

 

The point of the comforter was to point out that in cases of high heat output, i.e. when your vents are getting insufficient air as well, or gaming, temps will rise, and possible damage could occur. Just because permanent damage did not occur in this case does not imply that it will not occur in all cases.

If you paid attention to what I said earlier, I made no claims about the comforter, only about heat. Get it? HEAT.

And more importantly, if you expect to be gaming, the odds are that gaming with your lid closed is going to generate some relatively high temps. And heat = ? Do the math. Sure, some laptops can handle it, some can't. But it's not going to be particularly healthy for any laptop.

This was my original statement, to a particular guy. Did I say it applied to everyone else? No. If you wish to take it that way, feel free to do so. Why did I use that particular example? Because it was a Sager, and that particular guy had mentioned he was going to look at Sagers instead of the G73jh as he thought it would allow him to game with the lid closed due to the superior cooling. (Arguable, probably). Note the MIGHT NOT.

Your claim. So you're entitled to make blanket statements (heh, made a pun there), and assume that others are making one as well?

My repeated point.

1) LCDs can be damaged by heat.

2) Lid closed = higher operating temps, regardless of whatever you are doing.

3) Heat is dissipated through the keyboard as well. To be honest, heat is dissipated through the keyboard for all models, one way or another, and won't cause damage, especially if the cooling system is not severely taxed. I mentioned some models earlier, as there are a few models that actively dissipate heat through the keyboard.

4) If too much heat is applied, LCD could conceivably be damaged.

You keep going on about the blanket/comforter. And yet, no one else has. Again, it's not about the comforter, but about heat. Is it possible to run a laptop with the lid down without damage? Yes. Unfortunately, this is also a thread about a gaming laptop that users are likely to be using intensively. Odds of damage or overheating are going to go up.

 

Hi everyone

As many I been following G73 threads and have been very helpful, I pre-order mine mid january.

My question on is about the S/PIF out put, I have read in other forums that some laptops doesnt output 5.1 sound with the s/pif have anyone check this on the G73?

My idea is to buy the Astro A40+ mixup or the Astro Mixup + TurtleBeach HPX so I was wondering if I need an external USB Sound card to handle this setup.

Thank you

 

I have not in anyway told people to game with their lids closed.

The example with the comforter ir irrelevant. Why? Exactly because of ur point---heat. Ur own argument backs me up. Here is the deal: throwing a comforter over a laptop is going to cause problems whether the lid is closed or not. That is the point and should be obvious, that is also what makes the tie to closed lids merely conjectural and pointless. Is gmaing at high settings at native res on this laptop with the lid closed a good idea? Probably not. I never said that it was. Someone said u can't do it, period. I said that's BS cause I have been doing it for years. That's all. No point getting stressed out reading more into it than what I said.

 

I don't dispute your hands on experience but just for fun I measured the gap on my G51J, and it's 3/16 inch at the front. Assuming the same for the G73 times the width of the machine gives 16.6" x .1875" = 3.1125 inches squared. So just that gap (not including the sides) is like having a hole 1 inch tall by 3.11 inches wide for air to come in!

Maybe later on when all the more important tests have been run someone can run a temp test with the screen open and shut and just see what the difference is. If I get mine before Memorial Day I'll do it.

 

Actually, no one said you couldn't do it. What was stated that it was not recommended, and could cause damage.

The comforter was an example of HEAT. FFS. The laptop was left running with the lid closed. It was not doing anything more intensive than downloading stuff, in which case it would probably have been fine. Unfortunately, the blanket/comforter situation occurred, which resulted in even higher temperatures. Would gaming result in higher temperatures? Yes. Again, no one else mentioned anything about the damned blanket. You got an idea of the linked thread and decided to run off with it. The blanket/comforter in this case, was an example for circumstances that would have generated higher temperatures, i.e. CPU/GPU intensive work.

Closed lid = higher temps than with lid open. Blanket (Analogue for gaming or intensive work) = higher temps.

Closed lid + Blanket/Gaming/CPU intensive stuff = even higher temps.

Even higher temps = greater likelihood of damage. There's a positive relationship between the two, as you are plainly aware.

Do you actually see anything beyond what you want to see?

Have you ever tried gaming on your work laptop or doing anything GPU/CPU intensive with the lid closed? If you have, and have managed not to damage your laptop, good for you. Does it mean that all laptops could manage that? You've agreed that this is not the case.

Could you please find a post in this thread where someone has claimed that

I'll even quote the posts for you.

/facepalm. Take your own advice, considering you started the whole discussion.

I'll take you up on the offer.

Weren't you having fun too? Fair enough.

 

^--^ Wow, enough already, could you please take it to another thread or better yet, move on?

 

Snow finally 'cleared'.



Laptop "On FedEx vehicle for delivery".

...waiting.

 

That must've been a long weekend knowing it was just sitting on that truck. Congrats on the purchase and hopefully you'll have it "in-hand" shortly...

 

OMG, I bet this was a LOOOOONG weekend. That must have been so stressful. Gotta be there soon! Make sure you post your initial opinions and thoughts!

 

Oooh I can sense the excitement, I hope you get your lappy soon!

 

3 New videos posted from Ken @ Gentech PC. PM me guys if you have other material I am missing that needs to be added to the index.

 

Are you like me if there is something you really want to happen, you can't concentrate on anything else. Completely unproductive until that happens? Is so, like others said, this weekend must have been unproductive and frustrating?

I hope you enjoy the G73!

 

Based on that pic I'm guessing he was busy.

 

I will be an official "hands on" owner tomorrow. Just got off the phone with ExCaliberPC... and mine will ship out tonight. I would of have had it this weekend, but there was a problem with the security number on the CC.

However, knowing my luck, I will be keeping my fingers crossed through the un-boxing.

I've been waiting since Nov. 28th for a new computer (pre-orderd the g72 -canceled ) and now the end is really near for MY NEW G73JH A2

Thanks to everyone on the "thread"... all the information has been outstanding. Look forward to all the input that is coming.

 

For the most part, yes. However, we had a lot of work to do to get that snow out of there, but you can be sure there was only one thing on my mind. Still waiting for the box to show. I'm becoming increasingly pessimistic about it's arrival.