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    *Official UL30VT-X1 Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by iclicku, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. Nelson92

    Nelson92 Newbie

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    Why is my CPU score 3.6 with the turbo33 on? Whats the stock index for this laptop? i seem to be getting lower scores, im using W7 ultimate if that helps

    ps is it normal for the HDD to make a crackling noise?
     
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    I have successfully used Itarus guide and it works flawlessly with shifting between integrated and gpu.

    My problem is that DXVA with Flash 10.1 does not work....?
    I have tested the youtube "Big Buck Bunny Animation 720p" with CPU usage of 70-80 percent...

    Anyone else with that problem?
    My nvidia drivers says 197.15 ok.
    Running win7 x64.
     
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    how do you update to bios 210? I cant open the file/setup
     
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    Why oh why does not M$ remove the worthless index score?

    ..makes a crackling noise? I've seen drive noise come up many times in the threads. Not sure what the problems here are with the Seagates; indexing, thermal calibration, bad manufacturing batch from china? Anyone getting SMART errors?

    You might want to call Asus for the drive?
     
  5. Mrrudzin

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    Download 210 BIOS from asus support ans unzip it, run WINFLASH (you can do it in DOS mode (maybe in BIOS) - i don't check
    next show to WINFLASH bios file.
    If everything is ok click FLASH and wait moment to erase, flash and verify new BIOS.

    When You reboot your computer - it will work on new BIOS.
     
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    I got it. thanks for the help tho! Finally finished installing the latest NVIDIA drive.
     
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    Tr0janMan08 Newbie

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    Thanks for all the help itaru. I have installed the new drivers with your instructions. Everything seems perfect except I am not getting any openCL support, CUDA, and DirectCompute are working fine. Do you have any ideas what could be causing this?
     
  8. nvikram

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    Just wondering, how and what tool did some of you use to OC the GPU. I would love to get a small performance boost while on the nvidia card. Speaking of which, I installed the drivers, but did not use the modded installer and I got CUDA and DirectCompute working fine, but also no OpenCL support. Anyway to fix this? Also, as to gaming I do see a small performance boost in Crysis and Just Cause 2.
     
  9. nvikram

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    CPU usage on anything 720p / 1080p on youtube should not be more than 50%, for you, I think something is wrong with flash player or your Graphics Drivers. My guess is right now, it's only using the CPU to decode it.
     
  10. nvikram

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    Uh Oh.. I just tried 1080p on youtube and it doesn't do GPU decoding for me either. eeeek. I even tried reinstalling flash 10.1, but something is wrong ever sice I updated the drivers.
     
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    At intro there was a significant price differential, which seems to have narrowed with each passing week.

    If you get an A1 pop the back cover off and check the wifi card area: some shipped with two antennas, and if yours is one of them it makes upgrading to an Intel 1000, 5100, or 6200 mind-bendingly easy. Even if you have to buy the second antenna it's easy to snake it towards the speakers in front IF you have any problems with your Atheros card (most do not). Or you can follow David's excellent tear-down guide earlier in the thread and actually mount the 2nd antenna around the screen.
     
  12. Po$er

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    @rex: its saturday night, surely you must enjoy some time off?? I already checked sys props in NVid control panel, and it stated the 197.16 flavor, but the discrepancies in device manager concern me :)

    @itaru: I dont know why I didnt use gpu in the first place, but if device manager is not seeing the updated .inf correctly, clearly I did something wrong. I will check openGl OpenCL and CUDA support and report back.

    Edit #1: GPUZ reads the driver as 197.16 with cuda support and Direct compute, but no openCL... I will test further.

    Edit #2: GPU CAPS reads the driver as 186.88 package, but supports both CUDA and OpenGL...but no OpenCL...odd?????

    Should I reinstall drivers? Should I "recompile" driver package, merging 197.16 with asus package (in display folder) and delete all *.inf files except for Itarus modded file. Interesting indeed. Thoughts? Do I need to run vga patch again?

    Personally I do not believe it is necessary to update to BIOS 210. Since I use p4ghybrid 1.26, I am concerned about losing turbo funtionality... though I have no problems with 1.26. Until BIOS 210 is confirmed to allow turbo in P4Ghybrid beyond 1.25, I am reluctant to update to BIOS 210
     
  13. x3shift

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    how loud is the hdd? i might get WD scorpio blue hdd to replace the stock one. currently i have a hp dv2911 (dont know what hdd is in it) but it is really loud. there is no "clicking noise" like many of you have said but it goes "HUUUUUUMMM" quiet often. its almost like its speeding really fast and then slowing down.
     
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    Thanks Tallen,

    After reading, this most excellent thread, I've completed preliminary research on a replacement card :)

    For you and Dave and to all of the early adapters..Thanks!!! It's like buying a game on sale with all the bug fixes included! ;)

    The waiting game for the brown santa is the hardest part...
     
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    Um... I have that problem too... :( watching a 720p youtube video with the nvidia, turbo boost and factory "Entertainment" P4G setting takes between 79-86% cpu, while 1080p takes it to between 92-99% cpu.
    What is going on :confused:
     
  16. itaru

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    Yup, seems like during installation it still used the original Asus INF file instead of my modified INF. The original INF doesn't copy the needed files for OpenCL, so that's why GPUZ and GPU Caps aren't detecting it.

    As you said, recreate the hybrid driver package and delete all the INF files then put my modified nvmvam.inf file in the Display folder, and then reinstall using the setup.exe in the root folder, not the one in the Display folder. You don't need to uninstall the old one or run vga install patch, just install the new modified driver on top of the old one and it should overwrite everything. If you do it this way, it won't ask for a restart but you should restart anyway. Make sure you're in discrete graphics when you reinstall. Good luck and let me know if you run into problems.

    Just in case I included the wrong or corrupt INF file last time, I'm including it again as an attachment. If all goes well, all the tools should indicate version 197.16 and OpenCL will work just fine.
     

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    Do you have hardware acceleration enabled?
     
  18. ¤carbine¤

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    Pardon me for the very nooby questions, but how can I check? And if its not how can I enable it?
     
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    Right click on the youtube video -> Settings -> check box that says "enable hardware acceleration"
     
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    Yup the box was checked. Cleared and re-checked again but cpu usage is still at the same level :(
     
  21. ¤carbine¤

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    Hm I had the same problem, did what you suggested, had the hybrid driver set up, deleted all .inf files and put your nvmvam.inf in, and reinstalled with no apparent problem.

    However checked with GPU-Z after and OpenCL apparently is still not working.

    EDIT: should have got everything in one reply, my bad for the double post.
     
  22. David

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    Try uncheck it and see if that changes CPU usage.
     
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    Yeah, well, given that the G210M GPU is only an entry-level graphics card, I wouldn't expect too much out of it. HD encoding/decoding is still pretty much a job for the CPU rather than the GPU.
     
  25. ¤carbine¤

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    I get that =/ just worried that since nvikram claimed that the cpu usage should be alot less than what I am experiencing, there might be problems with the gpu.

    If you dont mind, can you (or anyone else with the UL30VT) try watching this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfWXRybZS4A&fmt=22
    and see whether your cpu level is sub 50% like nvikram's or in the 80-90% like mine?
    Thanks a bunch
     
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    Has anybody played an iTunes movie on this? I'm sure somebody has I just want to make sure I can play back all my movies on iTunes.
     
  27. proview3r

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    in the 80-90%
     
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    Playing that same video in 720p, my CPU usage is about 80-90% as well (tops off at 91%).

    I will also add that on my desktop (i7-920 @ 3.7GHz, 6GB ram and GTX 285), my CPU usage is also 80-90% while playing that video.
     
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    Phew... Thanks guys :) glad I can stop worrying about this now hahaha
     
  30. dblo

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    thank you to the both of you for the driver installation info, it worked like a charm for me!

    as for the 1.0.9.1 hd audio driver, i ran into the same problem, but i figured it out (if you're still interested). basically you have to go back into the directory where you extracted the new nvidia drivers (so if you followed the above advice, you probably extracted into the 'Display' folder of the original/old driver; here you will find an executable named "hdaudio_1.0.9.1_nforce_8.34_xp_vista_win7.exe"; all i had to do was run this executable and voila! my nvidia hd audio drivers were upgraded to 1.0.9.1, and instantly my hdmi audio output began to work (previously i was totally unable to get that working either, even before changing drivers)!
     
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    I have the same issue, but when checked with the source mentioned earlier in this thread as to Open CL working or not, it worked! Go figure... :D

    GPU-Z is apparently the token problem, not the nVidia Hybrid/hybrid driver setup if it tests fine, and GPU-Z still says the card doesn't support it. THAT is a GPU-Z problem, not the driver's fault. :cool:
     
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    anyone using both firefox and chrome? do you notice that the touchpad scrolling in chrome is smooth but not so in ffx?
     
  33. rexrzer727

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    Po$er, I recommend updating your BIOS, it will all work out just fine. :wink: I do not know who gave you the idea that Turbo fails with BIOS 210, because it does NOT, it works purrrfect in my UL30Vt-X1, switching, all of it works 110%. But then it always works great, mine's a "magic UL30Vt" I am convinced by now! :biggrin:

    I am still using P4G v1.25, the *only* safe one that always works 100%, recommend that you stick with v1.25 until further notice. The BIOS update will go fine though, trust rex on this topic, it's a good BIOS, no problems for me at all. :yes:

    Mr. itaru's trick pony also works 100% so go back, do the steps one at a time, and complete the exercise, restart, and voila! Your A1 will be all set--update the BIOS before you do any of it...I recommend it highly. Good luck and may God Bless! :D

    Happy Easter! :wub:
     
  34. rexrzer727

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    Actually, both Google Chrome and FireFox scroll equally great for me, no issues there when using the Touchpad. Same for scrolling with my Logitech V470 BT Mouse, it's smooth as silk in both browsers. :yes:

    What driver system are you using for the Touchpad? I found the Elantech to be the best overall, in spite of claims to the contrary/"Synaptic" are better, etc...my UL30Vt-X1 likes the OEM package of drivers best, ie the whole bunch other than video, sound, which are the latest from nVidia...also using P4G v1.25, which is the best P4G driver! :biggrin:

    Good luck! :cool:
     
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    Your INF file, the nvmvam_inf file, works a treat! I just replaced the one, single file which was 116KB where yours was 117KB in size, installed the new Hybrid/hybrid driver package *over* the old driver package (never done that before!), prepared for it to bust, but voila! Worked perfect! ;)

    Now Device Mngr. has both Intel/nVidia graphic drivers as the latest 8.17xx.xx et al file. I did have one small hitch, which I remedied manually. The nVidia HD Audio drivers were *all defeated* (Disabled), so I went through each one and individually enabled them manually in Device Mngr. and all is well there. I checked with an HDMI cable and my 56" Samsung LCD, and sound and video are both working 100%! Used an SDHC card AppleTV movie, upscaled to HD, and it's working purrrfect! :D

    Game performance is up unilaterally about 20-25% across the board in terms of frame rates (COD:WAW; C2D; Crysis; GTIV...all of them now Rock!), and the driver also supports OpenCL, CUDA v1.2 and DirectCompute v4.1. It's about time this computer's driver got an update to "modern times" is it not? :yes:

    Thank you for your time, encouragement, and skills at programming, it's appreciated a bunch... :cool:
     
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    where to get this nvmvam_inf file ? Whats the difference without using it ? I do the upgrade without it, and seems to working fine (Win7 32)
     
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    I see nobody hasn't problem with turbo and GPU switch - only me :(

    One more question. If You change overclock in BIOS (0-5%) - does it have effect in POST, or further where OS is loaded? I always have 1300 MHz.

    Maybe 30VT have got some RESET button (like turn off battery in PC) to restart BIOS?
     
  38. nvikram

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    Going back to the YouTube HD problems we were having, I rolled back my drivers and played the same test clip with CPU ussage at 30-40%. So I'm preety sure something wrong is is happening. Can someone with the old stock drivers confirm this. Also make sure you have flash 10.1 beta. You need it to use GPU decoding.
     
  39. rexrzer727

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    Well, the problems are twofold:
    1) certain important, specific files are not being copied
    into the new hybrid driver file during the installation
    2) because of the above, OpenCL, and other important
    things are not being enabled by the installation

    You may not notice anything specific at first, ie the notebook
    will continue to 'run fine', but when playing games that use those
    important, specific files, or viewing movies or video that use those
    files, the display may not reproduce the content accurately or uniformly,
    or the game or video/movie may crash, under-perform, et al.

    itaru explained it a lot better in his post here about the 'original install method' by human-being:

    "I think the problem with this method is that some files are not copied to the Windows system folders. The 197.16 has a few extra files which the original hybrid driver doesn't have, and the nvmvam.inf file (which tells Windows installer which files to copy to where) needs to be edited to add the new files in. These files aren't needed during regular desktop operations, but when playing certain games which use advanced features (OpenCL, DirectCompute, CUDA), these files may be needed or those games will crash or do strange things. Of course, there aren't any games out there that actually use those features yet though so you probably can get away with playing most games even with those files missing. The extra files are: OpenCL.dll, OpenCL64.dll, nvcompiler.dll, nvcompiler32.dll, nvcuvenc.dll, nvcuvenc64.dll, nvinfo.pb, nvinit.dll, nvinitx.dll, nvumdshim.dll, nvumdshimx.dll.

    One way to get those files in there is to install the normal 197.16 first, and then install the modified hybrid drivers. Another way is to use a modified nvmvam.inf file which will install all the files properly. I've included the modified nvmvam.inf file as an attachment if anyone's interested. Credit goes to o8x8 from a post long ago on this forum for the original idea. The modified file should replace the one in the Display folder of the modified hybrid driver prior to installation." (page 291)

    And further in a subsequent post he explained:

    "I modified the version string in the nvmvam.inf file to 8.17.11.9716 so device manager should see it as 8.17.11.9716. I checked in my device manager and both Intel and Nvidia show 8.17.11.9716 in the Driver tab. If it's still showing as 8.15.11.8688, then it did not use my modified nvmvam.inf during installation. Make sure my modified INF file overwrites the original Asus one, and you should also delete all the other INF files which came with the 197.16 driver to avoid problems. The only INF file in the Display folder of the modified hybrid driver should just be my modified nvmvam.inf file.

    Also use the setup.exe file in the root folder of the hybrid driver (not the one in the Display folder) to install the modified hybrid driver. And make sure you're in discrete graphics mode when doing the installation, because both the Intel and Nvidia graphics are enabled in discrete mode so all the drivers install correctly. When in integrated graphics mode, only the Intel is active while the Nvidia is disconnected.

    To check whether CUDA 3 is working, I use OctaneRender demo at http://www.refractivesoftware.com/downloads.html which doesn't detect CUDA using the original 186.88 driver, but works fine with 197.16. You can also use GPU-Z to confirm OpenCL, CUDA, and DirectCompute 4.1 are enabled. The Nvidia G210M doesn't have enough shaders for GPU-accelerated PhysX, so there's no way to support it. GPU-Z is at http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/ and latest version is v0.4.0. To test OpenCL, use GPU Caps Viewer which is at http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/ and it has several OpenGL and OpenCL demos to test those features. I can't find any DirectCompute demos so I don't know how to test that feature, but GPU-Z indicates it's enabled so it must be working." (Page 295)

    You get the modified nvmvam-inf file in either of those posts, and then follow the install instructions as above, and voila! You will then have actually fully installed the hybrid driver, with ALL important files that the original install method misses, and Device Mngr. will report the correct Driver in place for both Intel and nVidia VGA Drivers, ie v8.17.11.xx.xx instead of v8.15.xx.xx.xx

    I hope this clarifies things for you! I went back and redid my install completely based on Mr. itaru's comments and used the special nvmvam-inf file, and it worked like magic! You will have to do the same to get full functionality of the new driver in your notebook. ;)

    Good luck, and have at it! :cool:
     
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    I'm on stock nvidia drivers and have used both Flash 10.0.45.2 and 10.1 Beta. Both yield 80-90% CPU usage on my UL30VT and desktop with 10.1 Beta having a couple percent lower CPU usage.
     
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    I dunno about YouTube HD, but I just watched a full screen HD
    episode of the Dresden Files on Hulu TV/Video, and my Hybrid
    Drivers were working to the tune of 50-55% CPU during
    the entire episode, not higher, not lower, except for the very,
    very brief commercial breaks...where they were significantly *lower*.

    I have Flash Beta 10.1, the latest one if you wonder about that. :)

    I never checked out my CPU load on HD video before, but I'd expect
    it to be about the same with any HD content. ;)

    Hope this helps you out... :cool:
     
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    Sorry this is so late, just noticed your post.

    I have Macs and PCs, and play iTunes movies/QuickTime movies
    all the time in HD on the UL30Vt-X1. I am mostly using AppleTV-scaled
    movies, which are up-converted by ArcSoft Theatre, which I have a copy
    of. :)

    However, I can play them natively in the iTunes window, full screen, which
    I believe is still HD video content when played that way also on this computer, and it works clear as a bell...no issues at all using iTunes/AppleTV movies, iPhone movies, any Mac-content movies of any type work on this player fine. :D

    Hope this helps you out. :cool:
     
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    My results playing this Full Screen HD, CPU load 72-76% maximum... :)

    Never got to 80%, never lower than 70%, stayed right there for the duration. :cool:

    I don't think there's anything wrong with the new drivers either! ;)
     
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    Playing that turtle in full screen 720p at 1.7Ghz using the old drivers/the asus way of updating to 197.16 with the patch gives me around 30-40% CPU load as well.
     
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    Thanks for long explanation, downloading the CUDA and openCL test application but seems cannot see where the attachment of the inf and can it work for 32 bit version of windows 7 driver ?

    Thanks
     
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    Get the attachment from here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=6103234&postcount=2966

    It's at the bottom of the post, and the file is called nvmvam_inf.zip. Just extract it to the Display folder overwriting the original nvmvam.inf file.

    The INF file is only for Windows 7 64-bit version of the driver. It will not work on the 32-bit version of the driver since the 32-bit version has slightly different files, folder layout, and registry settings. You can try but I'm quite certain it won't work, and I'm too lazy to download the 32-bit versions of the drivers and modify the INF file. Sorry. :)

    In any case, why would you want to use 32-bit Windows? It doesn't make sense to cripple a 64-bit capable notebook with a 32-bit OS. You can use Virtual PC or VirtualBox if you need to run a 32-bit OS to run ancient software.
     
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    namezox1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a question regarding Power4gear Entertainment. How come when Im on power4gear entertainment the overclock wont kick in. Is there any way to override it beside going on high performance?
     
  48. mcullin

    mcullin Newbie

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    Hey guys. First post on the forum here- should be getting a UL30VT-A1 in the next couple of days, and I plan on dual-booting Win 7 and Ubuntu. Have a quick question though that I've yet to see an answer to- If I overclock the the processor via the Asus utility in Windows 7, does this persist if I load up Ubuntu? Or does the overclocking kick in only when you log into Windows?
     
  49. AgDon

    AgDon Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks "rexrzer727" for the reply on the iTunes question, looks like I'll order the UL30VT-X1 today.
     
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    i dont understand SSDs. for one, they dont come very big and people are sticking them inside their laptops. is there room for 2 drives? to my knowledge, i only thought there was only room for one. and having a 80gb ssd wont cut it. so how do ppl manage?
     
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