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    V1J/P Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by MysticGolem, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. E.B.E.

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    I remember people mentioning that you needed to pull a bit harder on that cover. (Carefully though!) Maybe there is a cover next to it that has to be removed first?
     
  2. Starboss

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    Thanks for help guys! I've scratched a couple of covers and RAM itself, but I got it inside at the proper location. And it works :)

    Now, could somebody tell me where HDD is located? Bottom again? Haven't seen it while installing ram :\ Help please :)
     
  3. E.B.E.

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    It should be on the bottom, if you didn't see it it's probably a different door.
     
  4. WLF46WLF

    WLF46WLF Notebook Evangelist

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    hi people!

    I've encountered a little problem with the V1Jp of my girlfriend: I've installed 4GB RAM, but it recognises only 2944MB! (3072-128). it's not a 32bit OS problem; ok, she has vista business 32bit, and now the fact that it recognises only 3GB it's not a big deal, but even the BIOS sign 2944MB! I've BIOS v. 312.
    ASUS sais that it supports up to 4GB, have I to update the bios or what?

    many thanks ;)
     
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    noone can help, or have tried to put in the laptop 4GB? :)
     
  6. AlexF

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    Nope, because it's not fixable.

    Unless you have a link somewhere saying that the V1Jp has it, AFAIK it doesn't say anywhere that this laptop supports 4GB.

    This 4GB problem is present in virtually all desktops and laptops, since it is an architectural deficiency present in any system which is 32-bit. Anything between the 3-4GB marker is typically lost due to the fact that the block of addresses overlaps what is used for physical hardware addressing. The only way around it is to use memory remapping techniques.

    In order to use all 4 GB of RAM, you need a 64-bit OS (32-bit Vista does not cut it) and a system with hardware and BIOS support for memory remapping. AFAIK, V1Jp does not do this, nor do the majority of laptops of this generation. This is also the reason why most laptops (even the newer ones) don't usually ship with more than 3 GB.
     
  7. WLF46WLF

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    but in the specs there was written:

    2GB (up to 4GB)

    it supports 4GB but the bios read only 3GB! it's not what it would be!

    even my new ASUS reads only 4032 instead of 4096, so when I put in 4GB I had to use vistabootpro to fix this (reducing phisical memory of 64MB). if I would have not used vistabootpro, my laptop read only 3GB in my 64bit vista

    isn't it an ASUS issue??
     
  8. AlexF

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    I dunno what specs you checked, but the official specs can be found here:

    http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=132&l3=454&model=1526&modelmenu=2

    Main Memory
    1024MB DDR2 667MHz (1Gx1)
    Two sockets for expansion up to 2048MB <= that is 2 GB TOTAL, *not* 2GB per socket.

    ASUS' website clearly states up to 2048 MB. Anything else is extra. 3GB is typically a workable size since it doesn't overlap with other memory space.

    This is NOT an ASUS problem. It is an INTEL ARCHITECTURE problem. If you searched on the forums, you would find that virtually every single laptop and even desktops have issues with 4 GB. Some manufacturers have tried to maximize it, but basically the memory is never fully usable.

    If you want to use up to or more than 4 GB at once, you *need* a 64-bit OS. NO 32-bit OS will let you use more than 4 GB because the absolute limit for 32-bit is 4 GB. There is a "cheat" that Vista and Windows Server can use more than 4 GB, but not all at the same time (with certain restrictions).

    Just because Vista 32-bit detects 4 GB on your computer properties doesn't mean it's usable. It is reading the physical modules and sees that you have 4 GB worth of modules, but it's worthless since the BIOS is what tells the computer what it can use! (ie: 3 GB, since peripherals and devices use the 3 to 4 GB memory space for themselves).

    In any case, it is a problem that won't go away for a long time. It is a design choice that they made when they made the newer architecture, very much like the 640k barrier long time ago (you lose the 384kB from 640kB to 1MB in a similar fashion).
     
  9. WLF46WLF

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    mine came with T5500 & 2GB ddr2 2X1GB.

    anyway, I know the fact that a 32bit system can't recognise 4GB, but I was hoping that my problem was fixable and my notebook could recognise 4GB in the bios and utilise it in a 64bit OS!
    it's not so, but I thought that since C2D were released, notebook can handle 4GB. probably I'm wrong.
    but even my ASUS with santarosa & C2D T7700 has a little problem like that: it recognise 4032 instead og 4096, and I had to use vistabootpro to make it working correctly! (I use vista 64bit, I repeat, I knew the limit of an OS system, my problem is in the bios!).
     
  10. psymastr

    psymastr Newbie

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    So, I bought the modular battery, because my main battery has become so bad (about 30 minutes of battery life). I am still under warranty (Its less then 1 year since I had it). Who do I contact/where do I contact to RMA the battery?
     
  11. E.B.E.

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    You contact the local ASUS repair center.

    The contact info of the local ASUS center should be on a business card that you received with the notebook.

    Where are you located?
     
  12. WLF46WLF

    WLF46WLF Notebook Evangelist

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    where have you bought the modular battery?I'm searching for it, but I can't find it! I have an asus vx2s and I think I have the same slot for the optical unit.
    thanks in advance
     
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    Did you try the ASUS eStore?
     
  14. ElMatador

    ElMatador Notebook Consultant

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    I have a problem with my Modular battery. I fully charge it and windows tells me that it needs charging when i take it off charge. But the pc will run fine on what is essentially 0 Life remaining. The wear is only 1%. Never used to happen. Any Advice?
     
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    I think it's yet another face of the (in)famous(?) ASUS battery bugs... Can you do a calibration of the modular batt in the BIOS? (I've never owned one so I don't know)

    If it can be done then you should probably try it... although by no means is it guaranteed to work...
     
  16. ElMatador

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    i shall try and calibrate it in the BIOS if there is an otption. will keep it posted
     
  17. psymastr

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    Located in New York, USA. I didn't get any business card with the laptop. I bought the laptop from newegg.
     
  18. ElMatador

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    how do i get into the bios... i forgot. i tried f8 and f12, no luck
     
  19. bulik

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    try the delete key
     
  20. ElMatador

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    f2 got it, i calibrated the battery and it seems to be ok, but the wear has jumped from 1% to 16%. Not too pleased about that
     
  21. WLF46WLF

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    no, I didn't. do you have a link? count that I'm from europe, italy :)
     
  22. AlexF

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    http://estore.asus.com? :)

    ElMatador, is that the modular or the main that jumped from 1 to 16%?

    Lately, my modular battery hasn't been charging 100% but it seems unrealistic for it to still be hovering at 1% wear after a whole year of use.

    Typically, the wear is supposed to be like 20% per year or something to that effect, though it might not actually register unless you recalibrate... (is it even in your best interests to recalibrate? Hrm...)
     
  23. ElMatador

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    it is the modular. I decided to calibrate since the laptop will charge the battery, but as soon as i remove it from the AC, it asks to be charged again, and i if i leave it on the pc runs fine. At this point i take my main battery out just in case its affected. It is really annoying because the pc uses the mod beofre the main. and because of the wear problem with the main battery, using the modular will get me more time and when it nears 30% of the main battery left, i recharge.
     
  24. ElMatador

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    i spoke to Asus who have told me to go back to the retailer, which is annoying
     
  25. E.B.E.

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    Hmm. They might not cover the modular, indeed...

    WLF46WLF: If you're in Europe the eStore won't work for you (unless you have a friend in US who can order stuff for you and then ship it across the ocean).

    Did you try a google search? Otherwise PM one of the resellers they will surely know the phone # for ASUS US.
     
  26. WLF46WLF

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    yes, they answered my question about the shipment...what a shame! I need that battery! :)
     
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    I have a question about V1Jp max RAM capacity.

    Currently my V1Jp has 1 GB of built-in original RAM, and another 1 GB of additional RAM inserted in the second slot during my purchase of V1Jp. I am thinking to replace the 1 GB of RAM in this second memory slot with 2 GB making my V1Jp has total of 3 GB of RAM.

    Is V1Jp able to support 3 GB of DDR RAM? My OS is Vista Business 32-Bit SP1.

    Appreciate any enlightenment. Thanks.
     
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    I put in 4GB and it supports 2944MB, so I think you won't have problems ;)
     
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    That means V1Jp supports maximum of 2944MB of RAM?
     
  31. E.B.E.

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    Probably yes.

    By the way the 1GB of RAM that came originally with the machine is not built-in, you can remove it and upgrade.
     
  32. ElMatador

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    Good news. Asus replaced my battery (3rd time lucky) and it shows no signs of battery wear. My laptop has fully discharged several times and wear still 1% although i think its killed my modular
     
  33. E.B.E.

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    Is it maybe a V1S battery? Or maybe just a recent firmware revision. Well, maybe they got it right in the end, although it took them 3 years to do so.

    I doubt that they are making revisions for the V6 batteries nowadays though... which is bad for me :(
     
  34. Plex

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    I still have my v1jp, i just popped in 2x2gb... bios only recognizes 3gb despite the Intel 945PM chipset having a 4gb limit.... even ubuntu 64bit shows only 3gb available. Anyone figure out some sort of hack to remove the bios limitation?
     
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    See if there's an updated bios available on the Asus website. I highly doubt anyone here has the ability to fully manipulate the bios for it to recognize the full 4gb :eek:
     
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    there hasn't been an update since 2007... idk how much has to be changed in the bios to support 4gb, but i was thinking maybe it is something basic as the chipset already fully supports 4gb.
     
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    In order for any system to utilize 4gb of ram, it must be supported by the bios, chipset and OS. I'm not sure if you already know this (if so, please disregard :p), but you'll need a 64bit OS to use 4gb ram.
     
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    I mentioned in my first post that I have Ubuntu 64bit. So, the OS supports 4gb and the chipset supports 4gb... so it seems the bios is the only limiting factor preventing me from utilizing the full 4gb on this notebook.
     
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    I have a 2 year old V1j and overheating has been a problem since day 1. It seems that i'm not the only one..
    Today i opened the two plastic shields, covering RAM, CPU, and parts of motherboard. I also took out the harddrive. I was suprised over the small amount of dust, but used the vacuum cleaner anyway.. Then I took out the CPU unit (4 more screws) and noticed that a metal-plate was all giving CPU and cobberpipes contact for cooling.. I squeezed on a thin amount of Artic Silver cooling pasta and WOW!

    Usually my CPU temp was 80°C even when only Iexplorer was running, now its usually around 45-50°C with fan running on lowest level..
     
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    Its amazing how much dust can get into the cooling fins. Did you try taking out the fan and vacuuming inside the air duct? I also used a q-tip to get some big chunks of dust out... it made a huge difference for me.

    When I get a chance I will try reattaching the heatsink with AS like you.


    I also had issues with overheating... the infamous battery life issue and the left hinge on the panel was always a bit tight and made some squeeking noise when opening/closing it... eventually the hinge completely broke from simply opening and closing it for 2 years.... and then the video board died (could turn the notebook on, but only black screen and external monitor wouldn't work)... it was at that point that I couldn't live with it anymore and went to deal with their service center...

    I won't even go into the horrible customer service experience getting it fixed... but I will say it took 1 month of waiting and lots trouble to finally get a new battery, dvdrw, video board and panel case (they reused my existing lcd)

    So far I haven't had any further issues since the overhaul besides the bios limitation i described above.
     
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    Yes, I also took out the fan and vacuumed the air-duct, but didnt use the qtip tough..
    After the laptop fell from a two story bed down in a hard concrete-floor I have not used my guarantee.. The plastic got some fractures, but it was no problem glueing it. Anyway I was impressed the laptop got no further problems, except the usually heating and short battery-lifetime.. After a while i noticed a small crack in the plastic at the backside of the LCD panel and a creaking noice when i openened/closed the lid. I suspected this came as a result from the fall, but read that others had the same problem. There are two covers hiding the LCD-foothold, i took these off and used a shiftkey to loosen up the screws. Now the noice is gone and the crack is no bigger!

    6 months after i bought the V1j my battery was flat dead, so i made Asus send me a new one. Still I am not satisfied by the lifetime (max 1 hour) and consider contacting them for a new one.. Anyone know if the new batteries deliver longer lifetime?

    When it comes to costumer service trought local stores, there are to many cooks at the kitchen, also here in Norway, it takes way too much time and struggle to get what you have paid for when issues appear.
     
  42. Plex

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    Hi guys, how is the battery wear issue going? Bought in 07, the problem still plagues me that i hardly discharge my batt..
     
  44. Plex

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    I bought my v1jp in April 2007, I started to see the battery life diminish before 2008. Aug 2008 my left hinge broke (it is a known design flaw) and the case itself broke thereafter. Also, the DVD-RW and Radeon x1700 card both failed by that time.... I was willing to live with the battery issue and had avoided sending my notebook in for service. I had no choice but to bring it in for service when the hinge and graphics failed... In Sept, I brought mine to the Wan Chai ASUS service center in HK.... a few days later they called me and quoted me a repair fee of around $150. I had to keep explaining things over and over... they wouldn't listen well and they kept making promises which they wouldn't keep... for example, they said they would call me on the next day or tell me it would be ready within a few days, and i would have to keep calling them... eventually, I was able to get them to repair everything and replace the battery without additional charge... it took over 5 weeks!

    Taiwan headquarters agreed to give me a new battery despite it being slightly out of warranty... it is the least they could do... i had suffered from the faulty battery for quite a long time... not to mention the crap service.

    So far the new battery shows no sign of the wear issue... and it has been around 8 months... seems they have fixed the problem on the new batteries.
     
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    Hmm, they fixed it already? How about using it till the end? I know mine just drops to zero upon 40percent battery charge.
     
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    Plex, my experience with Asus in HK is the exact opposite. I had my Asus W7S repaired also at the Wan Chai service center last year and they had my motherboard replaced in 4 business days without me paying a dime.
     
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    For an issue where the problem is simple and clear (e.g. computer won't turn on, etc)... it is likely smooth to deal with them... if the issue is battery wear/physically cracked defective hinge/etc that takes more intelligence/research to understand... then it is likely that there will be problems similar to my case.... :rolleyes:
     
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    From what i read in 07, the battery had an ACPI issue. I am based in Singapore and my batt warranty is over :( Heard that the module battery doesnt have this sort of problem.
     
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    I bought my V1Jp in Singapore during March 07, I had problems with the batteries in the first few months and have changed the battery 2 times. Both times they request I leave the machine with them so that they can further test it, without giving me a replacement machine. And not to forget the bad attitude.

    When I ask my secretary to bring it in since i can't live with a half hour batt life and the technician replace the battery on the spot. bloody sexist.

    my battery issue is considered resolved after the 2 changes with battery life of about 1.5hrs to 2hrs, which still sucks.

    During the times that I had my replacement batteries, I also faced problems with the PC slot card dummy, and SD card dummy. It will just fall off even it is clicked in. The Authorised repaire centre in North bridge road was helpful to supply scotch tape. Bandaid on a laptop, they are simply brilliant.

    I also have problems with the hinge, at first it was just cracking noise, then a small crack, during warranty period. i can't afford to send in the machine, and now the small crack grew really big unfortunately the warranty of 2 years is over.

    The fingerprint also no longer works after I reinstalled the window Vista, after about a year of usage.

    With all these problems, I would seriously consider against Asus brand laptops.
     
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    hey
    i had loads of problems with mine wen i got it. originally i got the first batch of V1j. they eventually replaced it with a v1jp. in the whole time ive had both i have had 6 batterys 2 screens 4 hard drives 1 new mother board.
    Bad times but all this was fixed under warranty even the last battery was fixed 2 months out of warranty as i think they had realised it was a design fault. Luckely the final battery they sent me had no wear issues :) .
    Following you issue on the screen hinges i have had this with every screen on both v1j and v1jp it always started to happen to the hinge on the right near the processor heatsink? is this the same for you? this must be something to do with t heating up and cooling. which somehow managed to tighten the bolt?
    i had to fix it as it was starting to twist the screen and crack the casing! so i took of the little plastic covers over the hinges and loosened the bolts on the hinges and made sure the two screns on the bottom left and right of the screen where tight(behind the rubber covers). this fixed all my issues with the screen making that horrible noise!!!

    Hope this helps you let me know if how it goes!
     
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