You forgot to install the wireless console.
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thanks for the tip
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I recently read a review of the 2G W3j and it seems very good with most of the cons of the 1G was addressed. Has any1 in here had problem(s) with this 2G one?
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ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..
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Thanks ClearSkies for ur response. Maybe i should pay a visit to the local store soon
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Curves = Good thing
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a. Arrived with bad RAM - easily and quickly replaced by dealer - diagnosis was annoying as heck though and Memtest86+ didn't pick it up.
b. Arrived with cracked and extremely loud super-multi drive. Replaced by Asus in one week as expected.
c. Video drivers - the video card is extremely powerful for a laptop of this size... but getting it to work without issues is another story. Luckily, once you have a working version pinned down to optimize performance and stability, this issue becomes moot.
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Can people please let me know what version their MMC driver is at?
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I think this is what your asking for, if not, I'm sorry....
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I do not get it. I have the same exact version and it does not work. I wonder what the conflict is???
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It appears there is a newer version on the Asus drivers page, have you tried the newer one as well? Version 1.01.04 I think it was.
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I downloaded that, it is still 1.0.0.6 I checked the file version on it
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since this is the w3j owners lounger...could anyone make a w3j owners drivers and tool thread.
that way we could keep track of all latest drivers and tools for the w3j, and if they could lock the thread so no one could post comments, just use it as a resource guide or something. just an opinion for w3j owners. I myself am anxiously waiting for drivers and bios updates for me to move on to vista successfully. -
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thanks, and you are right that most drivers are floating around here, that's way a special section would help that all drivers will be listed there (at least all drivers releases officially.
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Hello everyone and Happy New Year to all of you who celebrate Lunar New year, I've recived my W3j yesterday and I absolutely love this lappy. However, after a bit playing around with it, I'm concerned about some issues:
1. Light leakage at the bottom, at the highest peak of the arch, it's about 1/6 of the width of the screen.
2. The battery is a bit loose.
3. The DVD drive when loaded is kinda loud.
4.The fan run quite loud and hot even when i'm only sufring the net (I didn't install clean XP on it). It's very audible even with alot of noise in the bakground.
Is there any fix on these issues? I'm thinking if i should send back this lappy for a replacement? Please give me advices -.- -
2. My battery is the same way; a little wiggling, but nothing serious.
3. Same on mine (not so bad if watching a DVD, only when it spins up/installing stuff)
4. I agree on the fan, but it only happens when my laptop is plugged in. I bet I could reduce the amount of times it goes on by setting PowerPlay to its lowest setting when using AC power. It is hot air because it is the only exit for air in the system, which is running a MR X1600 and a processor of some kind, so it is expected. I'd rather have hot air blowing out the vent than having the keyboard or palm rests become really hot. -
My w3j blows hot air almost constantly, both with battery and without it. The palm rest and keyboar just get kind of warm since my hands are always cold so I'm not sure if it's hotter than usual. My CPU temp reads around 54oC and HD 47oC when idling, is it normal?
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Thanks for the help. Can any1 give me a list of useful sofwares to keep in this lappy since this is my first time buying Asus product.
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What is TPM and how can i enable it? Is it necessary? I read somewhere in the forum that it is not that important???
Is there any way to control the fan speed and temp? What is the ideal temp to set it at?
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I never did a clean install, just used the factory reset twice now (once b/c of a virus, once b/c it was time for a system cleanup). But I pretty much use everything that was preinstalled except for the Splendid video program and Norton (promptly uninstalled and replaced with AntiVir and Comodo). -
Like this guy above my post seems to be getting at is that there doesnt seem to be too much information concerning keeping the w3j cool when not using the x1600. The problem that though this laptop is amazing in just about every other aspect, the laptop can get quite irritating (to me atleast) when I am using it for normal stuff like surfing, or using word, and other really minimal tasks. It would seem like a lot of extraneous hardware or clock speed is being used to make the laptop that hot during normal usage. What would cause this much heat when so little is being done? And is there anything I could do to undervolt, underclock or disable whatever is causing this heat during normal usage?
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yes but does atitool allow you to turn down the Gpu voltage when you turn down the clockrate? And, does NHC actually scale the voltage of the cpu properly? Ive heard of a lot of problems with NHC in that matter.
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ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..
NHC controls the voltage fine since the patches came out, but the problem with the C2D and CD processors is that Intel limited the min voltage to 0.95 (as opposed to the P-M, which was unlocked), which minimizes the effect on heat that undervolting can play at the lowest multiplier. Undervolting the higher multipliers can help reduce the heat generated when the cpu steps upward, but only to a point and probably not enough to make a substantial difference in end system temps during minimal use when the cpu multiplier is already going to be spending most if it's time at the bottom anyway.
NHC is supposed to allow underclocking the x1600 gpu (I don't know about voltage; I think it only runs mem/core speeds), which Asus already installed at lower clock speeds from spec because of the thermal management challenges posed by the W3 chassis - there is very little room in there for airflow, and the intakes aren't all that big either, so heat builds up from the graphics prowess the x1600 brings (as opposed to other gpu options or the Igpu of the z63 series which was built on the same chassis). Powerplay can be a simple approach to limit the mem/core speeds by using the battery life settings, and as a result reduce the heat generated by the gpu. The hard drive can also be a significant source of heat in the W3 series, due to placement and position in the airflow pattern.
The question of whether the W3 is too hot or generates too much heat has been debated since the W3V was introduced a couple of years ago. The unfortunate fact remains, as pointed out above and previously, that when you cram that much in high-end components into a little box it is going to generate a lot of heat and that heat then has to go somewhere besides the inside of the frame. There are limits to what can be done to minimize the heat that is generated by those components as a result of the design dynamics of the chassis and arrangement of the pieces affecting internal air travel paths.
The W3j is a high-end gaming machine at heart, stuffed into a little box, and it creates the same amount of heat as the comparably equipped larger 15.4 machines, but those have the benefits of more interior space to manage it (resulting in lower temps of the outflow air). It is certainly true that for simple tasks like wp, internet etc the W3j is *way* overpowered and the prowess of the components' operating speed and capability results in excess heat and wasted cpu cycles etc. But, the reason you buy that kind of machine is also because the "problem" that surfaces during minimal use allows it to smoke along under demanding conditions. You get what you paid for (high-perfomance) in that regard.
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Actually with the right combo of software and settings I have gotten reasonably cool, I'll see if I cant tweak it some more. If enough people seem interested I might even go ahead make a lil' guide for cooling this thing down, when I find time that is.
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I don't think it ever gets as hot as people claim it to get. I play games for hours on end on my W3J including the new Supreme Commander and the keyboard top, palm rests, and underneath the laptop never gets alarmingly hot. This is in a closed room with no air conditioning in southern california. The only hot part is the air being expelled which is a good thing. I love my W3J =D
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The heat vent on the left should be annoying.And the bit below the palm-rest...
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Should be annoying? To be honest its not annoying at all in my experience. Sure if you put your hand right next to it, the warm air does make your hand moist, but if you just move the mouse pad down another 4 inches and you're in the clear xD
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anyone having problems with the new catalyst 7.2 drivers? ccc doesnt seem to show up anymore. i upgraded from catalyst 6.10 after uninstalling it and using drivercleaner. it's pretty wierd i gotta say.
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I've got Raven Shield's VEGAS on my W3J now and it definitely puts the notebook to its paces. I can only run it at 800x600 for playability and the game even tells me that my processor is below the minimums! In the past, my systems always met the minimums and also exceeded the recommended. Now games are getting to the point that you have to buy a new system just to keep up every six months. Its crazy! It's almost like the software has gotten too far ahead of the hardware these days. It used to be the opposite.
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Does anyone here have their laptop occasionally frozen on websurfing or opening programs (ie photoshop)? Mine does it very often these days and i've had it for only a week now. When i open the task manager, I always have 61 processes running and most of them seem to be system files. Is there anyway to fix this. I kept losing work everytime mine freezes.
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How come my W3J can't play DVD using windows media player. It kept asking me to adjust my resolution or something....
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its not that software is ahead of hardware, its that laptops have not so good hardware when compared to a desktop... if you want long lasting playability then buy a desktop... want portability then buy a laptop, just realize that it will not play games very well for very long
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Does anyone have Vista installed on their W3j and tried to connect a Zune to it? I think I may have a unique, and annoying problem. :/
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for all you people w/ hot W3Js I would suggest just turning Powerplay to Battery Optimized all the time. Even when your plugged in. It makes a huge difference in heat generated. When you do want to play games or overclock, then turn up settings to max performance and then overclock then game!
It's pretty simple. I practically use my laptop on my lap for hours now.
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go to start/run then type MSCONFIG and choose startup then you can turn off and on the processes that run when you start up.
Also Mew1838, I have played DVDs through media player and it seems to run fine, although I find windows media 10 comes up with more errors than windows media 9 which was solid.
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