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    (Solution)Super cool G1S

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by kunal2sh, Jun 6, 2008.

  1. kunal2sh

    kunal2sh Notebook Consultant

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    I do not own G1 but read lots of complains about heating problems and lots of software tweaks and hardware mods about same hot HEAT
    This links provides so clean, so transparent solution that can't pass over.
    I like this KISS.
    I do not think that there was just only one NB with non-removed packing material from NB case made perhaps by another manufacturer
     
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    really exciting thread. i'll sit down and give it a shot when I get back from work.
     
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    Well I'm pretty satisfied. I just did the most simple step of taking out the random pieces of plastic that were blocking vents. Temps have dropped 10-12 degree C from the 60-65 idle to 45-50 idle.

    Excellent stuff. I'll look at the other stuff when my thermal paste comes in.
     
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    Glad you guys like it
     
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    W-H-A-A-A-A-T?
    W-H-Y?
    What do you expect to gain or you already decreased temperature on another ... ?
    What are you going to cool and what are you going to heat?
     
  11. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    I concur with Oldman. You put a functional Peltier on any cpu or gpu, in any situation or configuration, and you can overclock the bee-jeesus out of it because you are then only limited by voltage issues as related to stable clock speeds.

    The improvements Neno posted are simply to be expected and not something unusual or grand. So it tells you just how far the 8600mGT is capable of performing from an engineering perspective, but what exactly does that mean in reality for everyone else out there? Plus, notebooks were not designed to be run like bench systems with everything exposed to the elements, and of course taking all the plastic covers off improves temps because they're all in cold room air - again, nothing unusual and to be expected. I don't think many folks would recommend running a system in such config over the long term, however.

    There are only a handful of users who are capable of putting something like this together, and Peltiers are rare enough in the desktop enthusiast realm to begin with. That whole setup has got to take up a good portion of room on the desk, and the question again is why do that? The issue is that for the time, money (and of course, remember, voiding the warranty) that Neno's mods are talking about one could probably purchase a Sager or Clevo with *much* better gpu and gain all the benefits of a compact DTR system.

    This has become an interesting read, but everyone needs to remember that the G1/2 series are "mid-range" gaming laptops with middle gpus (heck, my desktop essentially beats up on them; the 8600gt at stock breaks 4500 3DM06 on an old P-D 820). If you want a true enthusiast gaming notebook, buy one.... the G-series is not designed to be overclocked into oblivion or otherwise pushed to the wall, and it's kind of interesting when extreme power-users spend a lot of time posting how the system overheats under extended and highly stressed conditions..... it very well might, but Asus didn't seem to market or engineer the unit for those conditions in the first place.
     
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    well, when the Video Mems, are so hot,(with the same overclock) the 3dmark06 points are 4600 (withount OC, 4800) , i have tried this a lot of time.

    I tried some things and when I cooled the heatsink of the Video memory, the score rise to 6023...and the system is more stable to overclock

    when the temps of the video memory rise a lot, the system have a importan drop in performance.

    I think that the heating issues of g1s are because the VRAM is so hot, and decrease a lot performance.





    ClearSkies
    A peltier... cost 15$ , the heatsink was from an old pc, I didn´t waste money to do this ^^

    And... why people overclock a deskopt pc whith liquid nitrogen??.

    I like try hardware and I want to see if the g1s can score +6000 poins in 3dmark06, this is the reason for I do this.
     
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    i have put a peltier... because i had one, but I wanted only to cooling the VRAM to verify that the performance drop occurs when the VRAM is so hot (i can´t see his temp), a peltier wasn´t necessary...
     
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    Lord-Neno, why didn't you try water cooling on NB?
    As far as I know water cooling is very efficient and you can beat world record and Guinness records.

    Now about Peltier... so what was a result? 5C? 10C? 15C? Or may be you used reversed peltier to charge a battery? I believe it is possible too
    I do not know much about this so please enlighten me
     
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    because i haven´t got a RL xDD....

    mm i didn´t have the peltier temps when i did this.

    mmm yes, but it´s necessary a lot of heat in one side and cold in the other one to produce so much Voltage ( i had never tried this :p)
     
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    isnt lord neno's method extremely vioding the warranty?
     
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    mm, the guide to change thermal paste of GPU VOID THE WARRANTY, but put a peltier and a heattsink in the vram heatsink dont void the warranty.

    For example, if you want chage RAM in a asus g2s you need to put off the keyboard and it dont void nothing.

    I only retire keyboard and put a peltier ^^.
     
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    Can you provide a link to a peltier cell? Brand?
     
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    Thank you, Lord_neno.
    I'm more than pleased with what I've seen
     
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    Ok so I was really against modifying my notebook and certainly didn't want to void the warranty by dismantling and replacing thermal grease on the GPU.

    I took the plunge, however, and took the tapes off the RAM and CPU/GPU covers.

    SWEET JESUS what a difference. Went from CPU/GPU 80/100 to 70/80. I havn't been suffering from stuttering lately but since my GPU doesn't reach 96+ anymore it's a non issue.

    My only regret is that I did not do this earlier.
     
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    Do you use a cooler to get those temperatures? Or was removing the tapes sufficient?
     
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    My GPU didn't cool off that much when I took the tape off but my hard drive warmed up a lot. For the tape on the GPU/CPU compartment I'd suggest just cutting the tape with a knife instead of trying to lift up the copper without breaking it.
    The more complex mods look pretty interesting but I don't really want to void my warranty and risk screwing something up. I'm not that adventurous when it comes to hardware. Props to you for doing it though!
     
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    i dont see all the fuss about it.. its been done plenty of times before and here is a familiar link with no gibberonish spanish :p

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=146088

    The thermal pad thing on ebay tho was new to me :) cool stuff.

    I suggest doing the most simple ones. Change paste, remove the tape, get your self a notebook cooler from Zalman ie NC2000 and open up your windows in the room so your cooler gets a nice windy chill.

    works sweet.. read tha g1s guide! read tha stickies!