260M climbing over 100degrees

Hey everyone. Got my G51VX-A1 this morning.
First thing I did was take off the heatsink, clean it off with a cotton bud and some alcohol, and apply some Artic MX2 to the cpu, leaving the thermal pad on the gpu alone.

Revved my 260M back to up 'stock' 550/950/1350 clocks. Overclocked my cpu to 2.2ghz, turned down the voltage from 1.388v to 1.25v, ran Orthos to confirm stability. Everything seems alright.

Did a gpu stress test with OCCT, and I'm hitting over a hundred degrees celcius here, easy. It reaches this in just a few minutes, and doesn't seem to drop off or stabilize anywhere. I know this runs hot, but I've been reading reports of people with overclocked GTX260M's maxing at low-to-mind 90's, so I'm really freaked out I may have inadvertently damaged my gpu/heatsink interface.

(CPU max temps are around where I recorded them as soon as I unboxed)

The only reason I applied thermal paste to the cpu was to bring the overall temps down and increase lifespan (I'll be in military training for the next 2.5 years so replacing a laptop in the Australian desert is not something I'm interested in). However it looks like in trying to make my system last longer I've only increased heat and destroyed my warranty.

Any thoughts? Advice?

 

Well sounds like the GPU needs to either be reseated or RMA'd. Your Manu warranty may be void if they catch it but can't you still return it to the store that you bought it from? They might not do an inspection upon receipt.

Also check the GPU temps with some other software for validity.

 

My temps would hit a max of 102C before levelling out.

But I haven't removed the heatsink or applied any new paste, either. I think you might have messed something up :/

 

hmmm 2.5 yrs trainning ...wow that is a long long long trainning ..(18X ???) but anyway you might wanna try RMA it just for the warranty issue . ( and hello from Kuwait desert here ....lol )

 

I don't know about OCCT but if its anything like Furmark, it would stress your GPU for more heavily than it would be in games (even with maxed out Crysis)

Okay, first confirm the temps you are getting with either GPU-Z or HWMonitor. Then, give me your ambient and idle temps as well.

Afterwards, do a 3DMark06 run and tell us your max GPU temperature via HWMonitor and if possible, play a relatively new game for a while.

The 260Ms usually max out at high 80s to low 90s during gameplay that is not Crysis and at stock. With Furmark and overclocking it certainly wouldn't be unfeasible to see high 90s or even low 100s.

 

I can attest to the Crysis thing. Everything non Crysis and the GPU hits between 80 and 90C.

Crysis is the only game that pushed me passed 100C.

 

Why is Crysis the game standard? Is it really that graphical? what about F.E.A.R. or Left 4 Dead?....Just Curious(never played either of those three games )

 

Haha, FEAR 2 and L4D are nowhere as GPU intensive as Crysis. Even though its like 2 years old now, Crysis still remains the most graphically demanding game out there. If your computer can run Crysis at max settings smoothly, it'll run everything else out there fine.

 

Thanks Tev, I confirmed OCCT=HW Monitor, and I'm installing Crysis and Prototype right now. Will see how the two max out, if I can run Protoype at high without it breaking 95, I should be good, right?

Also my 3dmark06 run, got 10400 points, and maxed I think 94 on my gpu, although I can't see how thats temp intensive with the two cpu test breaks in the middle.

 

I think it's because the developer's thought, "Hey, we have this new thing called DX10, let's use the crap out of it."

And use the crap out of it they did. Moreso than any other game.


I think the only other game out now that's close to it is Far Cry 2. To be honest, though, I play both in DX9; I like AA too much to not have it, and playing in DX10 means I can't use it without a performance hit.

Plus I can't really tell the difference.

 

You might be able to run it lower than that. Prototype was developed with consoles in mind, not PCs; it's not super-intense.

 

Prototype ran abnormally cool on my laptop. GPU temps stayed at mid to high 70s even at max settings.

94C seems a bit high for 3DMark06, like 4-5C too high but it might be due to the overclocking.

What is your ambient temperature again?

 

If you mean room temperature, it's 2am in the middle of winter, so >18 degrees.
My cpu idles around 50, gpu around 60-65.
Using an Antec 200 Cooler

 

CPU idle temps are fine but the GPU idle temps should be about 10C cooler. You may have a lemon here

 

You're temperatures seem really high.

At 74 degrees, no cooler, my CPU idles at about 48-52C, and my GPU at 52-58.

 

Did you apply the thermal paste properly? Often times, if you add too much or too little, it can increase your temps instead. Also, many thermal compounds have a curing time before it reaches it's full effectiveness.

 

I currently use a desktop bout 90% of the time. It specs:

Hp Pavillion a1130n (released 2005)
Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2 GHz CPU
ATI Radeon XPress 200 chipset
1GB (of 4gb possible) system Memory (Pc3200 Mb/sec)
250GB SATA 7200rpm
16X DVD-RW w/Lightscribe
"integrated Grapahics"

see why I never play Far Cry2, Fable, L4D, or Cysis? the best I've done Is Call of Duty (the original) on mid graphics settings

My new Laptop far surpasses the desktop

Asus G71Gx-Rx05
Intel 2 duo 2.53Ghz
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260M
6GB DDR2 800 (6GB MAX)
500GB SATA 150 5400rpm
DVD-RW (don't know speed)

See now you may know why I am not up-to-date.

 

By dropping from 550 down to underclocked stocks, my gpu idle is now at 55 C, and ten minutes of Crysis on Medium @ 1920x1080 put me around the high 80's with a max of 90. From my knowledge these are acceptable limits?

 

Yes, these are perfectly fine temps.

 

No, because you had to both undervolt and lower the settings on Crysis.

I mean, for the temperatre yeah, those are fine. But you had to lower your expectations to get to them.

 

Those are fine.

I guess the 100C temps are due to OCCT. It probably stresses at least as much as Furmark or even more. There is no way as of right now that normal applications would stress your GPU that much.

 

I just don't understand how a previous gen gpu can score such low temps and a 260m heat up so much...

 

It has been discuss before, OCCT does make GPU runs very hot:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=355391&page=12

 

My laptop is brand new. Just got it yesterday..I threw as5 on the x9100 cpu and the gpu...gpu temps are outrageous..especially since this is suppose to be an (upgrade) from the previous G50.

 

@munchkin-man

The temps have been discussed to death already.

To sum up hundreds of posts and dozens of threads and pages: It runs a bit hotter than other laptops but there is no need for concern since Asus built it this way.

 

This.

Times about a thousand.

 

The differences between Crysis DX9 vs DX10 is almost invisible to me as well. I can see some things here and there if I look for it, but that's only if I look for it. I'm not concentrating on shrubbery if I'm shooting at aliens and Koreans.

 

Haha, I practically live in the shrubbery when playing Crysis multiplayer. On defense, nothing beats hiding in the green and picking off approaching players from the other team.

 

Oh, a camper you are.

Kidding, kidding.

 

I'm not going to lie. Yes, I am a camper when my team needs to hold down the fort. If the other team realizes that they are getting killed by the same guy over and over in the same spot, I would assume that they would blind fire the bushes, and I would stop camping in the same spot for a while. But that they never get it, haha. But when we're on offense, I just rush in as an assault sniper.

 

I'm more of a Counter-Strike player, so I don't do tactical defense (i.e. camping) much. At least in pub games.

In a match it's an entirely different story. Not to suggest I'm a good player. I have the reactions and twitch-control of a drugged sloth, but I at least know the maps and how to move around. And where to expect people.


So we don't go completely off topic, does multiplayer affect heat much? I'm assuming the additional independently-moving entities tax the CPU more, and cause more heat. Then again, what do I know.

 

If the ingame chaos in multiplayer is equivalent to singleplayer, then multiplayer would be less taxing on the CPU.

 

OCCT is a good torture test for your cooling system so you know its limits.

Summer is coming to Australia sooner or later, so simulation will soon be a reality.

Yes it does by a few degrees. Not a biggie though. If you play in a big map with a full room compared to say iceworld, you should see the difference.

 

And since most of the heat is GPU anyways, it's no worries.

I'm still getting about 96+ for an CPU undervolt/minor overclock combo and a GPU 2.5% overclock (from standard, not stock).

 

So with my gpu up to stock speeds I get highest 99 and 102C on 3dmark and gta4....On a cooler.... when does the 260m danger downclock begin? A normal laptop gpu is at 105C....Pretty close...

 

All G92b's will begin throttling down at 108*C unless you manually change the downclock threshold. But with all GPU's you really should avoid dancing above 90*C.

 

I would suggest running S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky all maxed out and then see what the temperature is, it is the only game that is hungry for resources as much as Crysis, if not even more.