2nd bat with CHC error fact or fiction?

I have heard of CHC not being able to run both batteries, and instead just running off one and then dying when it died.... is this on all models or some? Any body care to shead some light on this? I was considering getting a bay battery for the z70v but I use CHC and it has made a HUGE diference so I dont really want to give it up... i hope this problem is not so serious...

 

even if that were true, you could also use RMClock to undervolt your processor.

 

true... but chc has been good 2 me so far... neway will c... ill see what happens when i get the battery... do u use rmclock? have you tried it and chc? Can you compare em?

 

I have used both. I use rmclock though. The reason is, and it may sound silly to you, is that I don't want SMART detection running all the time. At least with my M3np, when i ran the SMART detection with the seagate 40gb momentus drives (5400rpm 8mb cache) I think there was some security vulnerability cuz the drives would soon start to fail. This may sound crazy, and I know, it sounds crazy to me, but it was one hell of a correlation (and 3 dead hard drives!). Anyway, I now have a z71v and a 100gb 5400rpm 8mb seagate hard drive (they upgraded me for free "for my trouble" -- so i'm definitely happy with seagate!) but i still don't want to risk it. I occasionally check my SMART status, but i don't want it being continuously read by CHC. Besides, now I use RMClock and Speedfan (with SMART disabled) because Speedfan reads me off my GPU, my northbridge (and arguably my southbridge), my CPU temperature as well as my GPU and CPU fan and my voltages. CHC, to date, does not detect all of that. However, I will admit it is an excellent program. It just needs to support nVidia cards and have switches to disable features (e.g. SMART).

 

I saw that you could disable smart reading though... odd... will check again. do you know if speedfan can detect gpu fan spd / temp on the z70v and x600? that would be great... might try rmclock but no reason 2 as yet... smart seems fine 4 me, no probs as yet... who knows though, ive had the thing 4 3 months... were all the drives u had problem with seagate? maybe some thing with that? Dunno... comps do very wierd things at times...

 

i had problems with my w3v dying when the bay battery ran down. but once i started using chc, i have had no such issues.

 

interesting that its opposite 4 u dga... here's a screen shot of chc, there is an option to turn off smart reading...

 

Oh, that's nice! I must have missed that last time I used CHC! Now they just need to add nVidia support. Anyway, the way I get my sensors to detect with speedfan (the GPU fan and temp) is run Everest first, read the sensors in there, AND THEN run speedfan. I know it's a crazy combo and I've sent an email to Alfredo (the guy that makes Speedfan) to see if he can initialize it within Speedfan and avoid running a second program. It's quite a handy feature because you can see what your peak temperature as well as control your CPU and GPU fan speed.

I already posted a thread on this in this forum, but the link for more information is: http://z71forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=33

I'm sure it's more or less the same for your sonoma with the x600. I'm glad to see that CHC supports disabling SMART, but since I use Speedfan and RMClock, there really isn't any need for CHC (I also occationally run Mobile Meter for battery information). Now if CHC incorperates fan speed/control, nvidia support, and ACPI/GPU temp readout, with event based procedures for overheating,etc... that would make it the ultimate program! Maybe I should write an email to the maker as an upgrade path.

 

i think it did have fan control but only for cpu i believe.... but didnt work 4 mien... not compatable... etc... but ill try this speedfan thing, can u control cpu / gpu fan speed? on x600 r u sure? i think maybe just 6600 just supports that... dunno... also would the same aspects of speed fan work on the z70v due to mother board probe difs? pls do send him any advice... i would love 2 c all that in one ap... thx for the advice will try out this speedfan... though as is im pretty happy with temps as fan doesnt really come on that much cuz cpu doesnt get much higher than 55 regularly... so maybe not a big deal... will c... monitoring gpu would be good though... ill check on speedfan site if x600 is supported... cheers! btw what are u undervolted @?

 

well, try running everest (and check the sensors section) THEN speedfan. I can control my fans (both GPU and CPU). As for my undervolt, well, you can read my signature, but i'll give the detailed volts:

--- PST @ 533MHz FSB ---
6x 0.700v (800MHz)
7x 0.748v
8x 0.812v
9x 0.860v
10x 0.924v
11x 0.972v
12x 1.020v
13x 1.084v
14x 1.132v
15x 1.180v (2GHz)

 

would sandra soft work aswell? it does very similar things and registers temps... though i dont think it continually moniters it but rather it takes temps at snapsots in time... havent used everest but i assume it contiunually moniters it... if everest doesnt detect gpu temp / fan speed should i even bother with speed fan? thx 4 the undervolt info... i have my 14x (mines 1.86ghz) @ 1.068 and 6x @.7... runs fine... if ur interested i can post the whole series... unfortunately 1 downside w/ chc is that u cant choose each multiplier voltage cuz there is a limited space, so i dont have the whole range but most of it... im missing 2 multplier tiers... not a biggie though it pretty much stays between 14x and 6x... thx 4 d advice ill let u know how it goes..

been looking at it a bit more... just wondering when rmclock comes on for windows boot... as the earlier the lower temps would start up right? have you used the "advanced" tab of rmclock?Looks very powerful but complex... im not an engeneer so i dont want to go screwing w/ things im not sure about... Do u use this aspect of rmclock?

Well I tried out speed fan... seems very powerful... though complex again. I dont think ill use it right now.. the fans arent really an issue as yet + i cant adjust gpu fan... only chasis and cpu fan are listed...

its hard to understand how to use it... if you could give me a brief explanation on how to use it I would really appreciate it. Everest is great though... i figure ill just use that to see gpu temp... i guess here (in pic) gpu is aux... thx again 4 all ur help!

 

CHC w/OD battery is fine from a functional perpective on my z70v.

But it gives me an unusually high runtime reading, like 10-12 hours at first. But I've done rundown tests and reality matches my calcuations (roughly 6.5 hours with both batteries with light usage).

 

sounds good then...

 

RMClock lets you add as many (or as few) steps as you'd like.

Read the first submission by Whiteheat for a quick run down on how to control your fans (it's bad right now, but if Alfredo ever replies, we may be able to address this issue): http://z71forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=33&start=0

Oh and Chassis fan is your GPU fan (you only have 2 fans ). In everest, it acts a bit funny because if your CPU fan is off, then "CPU fan" is your GPU fan, until your CPU fan starts up, then "CPU fan" is your CPU fan and "Chassis fan" is your GPU fan.

I noticed your temperatures are a little high and your 3.3v and 5v rails are a little low. Where you running on battery in hot conditions? To put it into perspective, my 3.3v is at 3.35v (and i'm running on battery too!) and my temperatures are 39 deg C for CPU and motherboard, 55 deg C for GPU, and 39 deg C for hard drive and my CPU fan is ALWAYS off, unless i play games (ut2004 or gta - san andreas).

Anyway, good job with your undervolt. My CPU is an overclocked 1.5GHz. When I set my FSB back to 400MHz, i would have [email protected]! So the increase to [email protected] is certainly not linear (these voltages were prime95 stable for atleast 25 hours).

Anyway, cheers.

 

Thx 4 the fast reply. Btw for some reason i missed 2 other possible slots for voltage changing in chc... so now im only missing 1 multiplier! i think it may increase the possibilities as you fill up the slots, i hadnt checked after i set it the first time...

on the 2 fan topic... why are there 3 speeds 4 the 2 fans ??? (see screenshot)

the cpu temp has always been around 50 4 me... maybe cuz its a 1.86ghz but urs is 2ghz so ... ? dunno... my cpu fan comes on only @ 55c... so not so often...

I think i got the gpu figured out its remote 2, but what is temp1? Any ideas?(see screenshot) hadn't read ur post on the z71 forums... i guess temp1 is northbridge then...

can u post what u have 4 ur desired and warnings? just to give me an idea of where these things should be set... as far as i understand from there speed fan will adjust fan speed to try and achieve the desired... also is mobo temp supposed to be basically the same as cpu?

on undervolting did u test each multiplier level or just guestimate some? I tested each multiplier at interverals of 2, ie 2,4,6 etc.... but then just guestimated the rest... should be ok i figure... I still have 2 run a 24hr test on my 14x and 6x just to make sure its all OK, those are the most important anyway...

as 4 why voltage may be different, perhaps cuz im in India right now, its 220 volts here and our house has really really really crapy power, its usually much higher or lower than it should be... result: randomly being shocked through the palmrests or touching the portbar3 connector at the back... I love India ...
not sure if that would do it though... what would cause the rails 2 read off so differently? 3.3 is now high... and 5 still low... im on ac, would that change much? What would be the problems caused by having the rails off? Any? Also does it hurt the cpu any if it goes up the multiplier range, ie 2,3,4,5,6 and the voltages go up and down? (as i cant change all of them...) i doubt it, but im no expert...

congrats on the overclock though, 1.5-2.0 is sweet! Too bad the z70v doesnt have a dip switch... i dont really want to take the risk of a pin-mod... that and i cant oc my 1.86 anyway cuz its already @ 533 fsb...

neway, thx for the help... btw the help file in speedfan is fairly decent, but not very thourough and leaves some bits not explained that well.. at least its a start... is there anyway to improve my rail readings?

thx, cheers!