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    4 gigs in an Asus G1???

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by huynhc, May 7, 2007.

  1. huynhc

    huynhc Notebook Consultant

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    I was wondering if the BIOS/Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit will read 4 gigs of ram?? Thanks in advance!
     
  2. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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  3. CharlieDigital

    CharlieDigital Notebook Geek

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    I think the OP's question is better phrased as:

    "Can I use 2GB (1x2GB) SO-DIMMS in the Asus G1?"

    I've tried to find answers to this for a while, too (although not with the G1, but various other Asus notebooks). The answer seems to be "no".

    Whether the OS will allow addressing of all 4GB of memory space is a different question all together.
     
  4. huynhc

    huynhc Notebook Consultant

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    say i got my hands on a 64-bit version of vista... is it doable then? thanks for the responses...
     
  5. Gator

    Gator Go Gators!

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    Nice find.

    To OP: If you managed to install 4GB on the laptop---something I'm not sure the BIOS will handle before we even boot into Windows---you will only be able to use approximately 3 to 3.5GB of that RAM for programs in Windows. Which is admittedly better than 2GB in case you run apps that eats memory for breakfast.
     
  6. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    I think the OP rather asked "Will the Vista 32 bit edition recognize my 4GB of RAM?" :) Or at least that's what I answered to.

    To detail on my answer:
    1. The hardware will support it with no problem.
    2. Vista 32 bit won't read more than 3.5 GB (as per the article linked by me).
    3. Vista 64 bit will (presumably) access the entire 4GB range without problems. But Vista 64 bit is iffy for the regular user, currently...not many drivers available.
     
  7. huynhc

    huynhc Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for all the help guys! you're a helpful bunch...
     
  8. Vaath

    Vaath Notebook Deity

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    So I could pop in 4gigs now, and when we switch to 64bit it will recognize all of it? The G1 will be compatible with it? Cool, thought I was going to be stuck with 2gig for 3 years :D
     
  9. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Well, nobody guarantees the hardware and BIOS support it since it wasn't officially tested with 4GB, but I see no reason for which it shouldn't work.

    Nevertheless, it's maybe useful to test before buying. If you can get your hands on two (or at least 1) 2GB chip... you could put either both and see if the BIOS recognizes, or put one chip in the two slots in sequence.

    I have never tried this, so be wary of what another poster said:

    "I've tried to find answers to this for a while, too (although not with the G1, but various other Asus notebooks). The answer seems to be "no"."

    I would recommend testing before buying.
     
  10. nickie

    nickie Notebook Consultant

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    A few months ago I've contacted Asus regarding the possibility of expanding my A8Js 2GB to 4GB. According to them the chipset that the A8Js uses ( 945PM) supports 4GB of memory, so there would be no problem with the eventual upgrade (I'm waiting for the RAM price to be lower). I believe G1 uses the same chipset, so there would be no problem with the upgrade.Of course, the best way to be sure is to try before buying it. If you do try, please share the conclusions here!
     
  11. Shai Hulud

    Shai Hulud Newbie

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    Is it possible to have one 2GB and one 1 GB in dual-channel? Or do you need identical memory sticks?
     
  12. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    I think they have to be identical to run dual-channel.

    Don't worry about dual channel though it's not gonna improve your performance much... at most 5%. Really you don't need to care about it, it's just marketing hype.
     
  13. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    I Know this thread is old as hell, but it was the first I found as I felt like I need to tell ppl that this is possible.

    I originally intended to run 1x 2gb and 1x 1gb(because everyone was saying 4 gigs will cause problems etc.) but due to a shop error I got 2x 2gb (for the price of one :rolleyes: )
    I thought what the hell and installed both. Here's the result IN windows:
    (its finnish but the obvious is understandable)

    So, I dont know if I got lucky or if SP1 fixes some things etc etc. BUT so far everything seems fine with 32-bit Vista recognizing 4 gigs of memory.
     

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  14. DTrump

    DTrump Notebook Consultant

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    (I know this is an old thread, but I just wanted to respond to the latest poster...)

    Recognize, yes. SP1 changed the way the total RAM is displayed. Now it shows how much is installed, rather than before, where it only showed the amount that the OS can use.

    The OS will still only use around 3 to 3.x GB of RAM in a 32-bit OS. To have full use of the 4 GB, you'd need to upgrade to a 64-bit OS, or use some command line arguments for starting Windows to do physical address extensions, which has its own set of issues.
     
  15. darksun9210

    darksun9210 Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah... asus provides stylish, powerfull, and solidly built notebooks. but woe betide those seeking support or help with anyhing other than the Eeeeeee models.

    so anyway, onto the 64bit question. i have recently managed to aquire a copy of vista64 home premium edition, and activated it with the product key on the bottom of my G1.
    no thanks to Asus there at all. emails sent into the black hole of oblivion known as asus support. and why is their website so slow?! :mad:
    but i digress...
    the Bios reports two 2048Mb modules installed. good stuff. the bios reports 2977Mb memory installed. ok, the Bios maybe limited to 32bit, so you'd think the OS should be a little more intellegent. installed Vista64 Home Premium. 2897Mb ram available. those with an 8600 graphics chip with 256Mb ram, should fair a bit better than me with my early edition 7700 with 512Mb ram, as you won't loose so much system ram to having gfx ram steal the address space.

    but microsoft's take on this is that the following chipsets support 8Gb address space in the bios, and i quote from

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us

    Intel 975X
    • Intel P965
    • Intel 955X on Socket 775
    • Chipsets that support AMD processors that use socket F, socket 940, socket 939, or socket AM2. These chipsets include any AMD socket and CPU combination in which the memory controller resides in the CPU.

    so thank intel for the pm945 chipset supporting 64bit processors, but not 64bit addressing. maybe a bios update with fix it all, but good luck with getting anything like that from Asus. my next laptop will probably be an alienware, as i've pretty much spent 2000UKP on this thing... hmmm, i wonder if my house insurance is paid up? :D

    oh, quick thing, Vista SP1 changes the memory reporting tool to show how much is installed. not how much is usable. so it may show 4Gb, but you still can only use as much as you ever could.
     
  16. s4nt0s

    s4nt0s Newbie

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    I know this is kinda off topic but I always hear people talking about compatibility issues with windows 64bit. I bought a G1sn-b1 and I have yet to run into a program that isn't compatible with 64 bit. I've played many games, unlreal tourney, cs-source, cod4, bioshock just to name a few. I have tons of programs like limewire,utorrent,magiciso,nero,reason 4,pro-tools and I'm even using rocket dock flawlessly. I don't get what the problem is with 64bit? My computer runs perfect and doesn't get hot one bit and thats another thing i hear people complaining about all the time. Maybe its the model I got? I'm not sure but either way if you want 64bit to run 4 gigs of ram I would definitely go for it. Dont let compatibility rumors stop you.
     
  17. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Well, it is possible that incompatibilities show up more in an enterprise/business environment, rather than in a consumer environments. For some reason, (relative simplicity, huge customer base == lost income if you don't update), consumer applications seem to be updated more often.

    Also, 64-bit Vista seems to be much better from this point of view, than 64-bit XP.
     
  18. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    Heh, I remember posting to this thread after getting that 4 gigs of memory. Well, I've learned a few things since and finally even got my hands on the 64 bit vista everyone was talking about.

    Was kinda disappointing to see exact same numbers in 64 bit vista as in 32 bit in the total physical memory: "2942MB". Bios reports 2944MB.

    Asus G1 does not support 4 gb of memory

    Correct me if you got some better information. I hope someone does :D
     
  19. simonfzhao

    simonfzhao Notebook Evangelist

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    OS Problem? Did you flash your Bios to 300?
    Here's an ss of mine:
    [​IMG]

    I'm running x86 but it seems that it shows more ram then yours :S
     
  20. Jaguar

    Jaguar Notebook Consultant

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    I have asus G1. Wasn't aware there was a 300 bios to it ? Mine is 209 now if i remember correctly. Besides, is there a 64-bit winflash program ?

    edit: Oh, and I think G1 s does support 4gb of memory no problem. It's the new chipset etc, so if you'd install 64 bit OS you'd prolly see whole 4gb.