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    5 noobie questions: Which asus notebook is the most powerful..besides the new lambo?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by indefuseable chronic, May 13, 2006.

  1. indefuseable chronic

    indefuseable chronic Notebook Consultant

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    1)not including the new lambo coming out, is it the w2jb ??
    2)how much more worth it is the lambo? dont like the idea that its more expensive since its limited edition... i dont necessarily like the lambo theme.
    3)any other better asus machines coming out soon?

    im looking to spend about the $2500 range for a nice notebook directed towards gaming and entertainment. originally i was going to buy the w2v but decided to wait. which asus notebook is the most powerful in these areas ?

    not something too heavy... like 7-9 lbs

    4)which notebooks out right now would be 1st string competitors for the type of notebook im looking for ? looks and build are a must along with the power and features to back it up.
    5)do any of these machines offer PIP ?
     
  2. ejl

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    1. well, right now, since they pretty much have the same general ram/hd/cpu configurations, what will differentiate them is their gpu. the best gpu found in asus notebooks are the x1600 and the 7600go. the x1600 is in the w3j (not out yet), a7j (though not as powerful as the rest and heavy), and s96j. the 7600 is in the a8jm.

    2. not really worth it. the lambo is just the asus v6j with a paint job. though the v6j is a nice notebook, it doesn't have a powerful gpu (7400go).

    3. the v1j will be somewhat like the v6j except with the x1600.

    4. the w3j and a8jm are nice looking but not available in the u.s. yet. the s96j is available now, but doesn't look as good.

    5. not sure what pip is.
     
  3. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    powerful in what way? You could easily buy a Built-On Model and configure it to have the highest processor, HD and RAM which will make it "powerful". Unless you're talking about video cards, then the x1600 is the most powerful Asus has used so far (yes more powerful than the 7400 in the Lambo).. but it's still a mid range card.. and if you want something as powerful as the 7900, you best look to Dell or Clevo's behemoths.
     
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    Reize Notebook Virtuoso

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    1) in what way? Powerful by ratio as in size :power or price :power? Or just raw strength?

    2)Gotta know answer to my q. on #1.

    3)See #2 but there are some powerful coming very soon.

    4) Lenovo, Sony, Sager.

    5)I don't know.

    Maybe if you filled out the FAQ we could find a good one for you.
     
  5. indefuseable chronic

    indefuseable chronic Notebook Consultant

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    pip as in picture in picture... i would want the notebook to have cable tv plug in and be able to watch the game and be on the comp

    tahnks for takin the time to answer. right on

    of all the machines mentioned till now which would u say has the most balance between best looking, nicest made(i really love how the w2v was built),best graphics,min. 17" screen, most powerful, etc...

    thanks for the input.
     
  6. ejl

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    i don't know any notebook that does picture in picture....though i suppose that would be something software oriented as opposed to hardware. anyway, you didn't mention that 17" was what you were looking for. the only 17" that asus has are the a7j and the w2jb.
     
  7. indefuseable chronic

    indefuseable chronic Notebook Consultant

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    thanks reize

    General Questions

    1) What is your budget? $2500 give or take a few bills

    2) What size notebook would you prefer?

    17"+ screen, high res, not too dark ... around 7-8 lbs


    3) What tasks will you be performing with the notebook? lots of media and entertainment, lots of gaming and general

    4) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places or leaving it on your desk?

    more or less on the desk

    5) Will you be playing games on it; if so, which games? ones with great graphics

    6) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
    love ASUS! esp. w2v's metal and carbon finish, its solid, doesnt feel cheap, no plastic and it looks sharp.

    7) How many hours of battery life do you need? as much as i can get

    8) Do you mind buying online without seeing the notebook in person?
    depends on the pictures

    9) What country are you buying this in?
    us of a

    Screen Specifics

    10) From the choices below, what screen resolutions would you prefer?

    a. XGA = eXtended Graphics Array; 1024x768; This resolution will give you the largest viewable text and images while offering the least amount of screen real estate.

    b. SXGA = Super eXtended Graphics Array; 1400x1050; This resolution offers a middle ground between XGA and UXGA.

    c. UXGA = Ultra eXtended Graphics Array; 1600x1200; This resolution will give you the smallest viewable text and images while offering the greatest amount of screen real estate.

    d. WXGA = Widescreen eXtended Graphics Array; 1280x768 or 1280x800; This resolution offers the same as XGA except that there is more horizontal real estate; 1280 versus 1024. Popular for movie viewing due to support for widescreen.

    e. WXGA+ = Widescreen eXtended Graphics Array+; 1440x900; This resolution is offered on 17" widescreen notebooks and is comparable to WXGA in terms of text and icon size versus available screen real estate. Popular for movie viewing due to support for widescreen.

    f. WSXGA+ = Widescreen Super eXtended Graphics Array; 1680x1050; This resolution is comparable to SXGA in that it offers a middle ground between WXGA/WXGA+ and WUXGA. Popular for movie viewing due to support for widescreen.

    g. WUXGA = Widescreen Ultra eXtended Graphics Array; 1920x1200; This resolution offers the smallest viewable text and images while offering the greatest amount of screen real estate.

    uhhhh i guess somewhere between B D E and F


    11) Do you want a glossy/reflective screen or a matte/non-glossy screen?
    glossy non reflective if they got it. whatevers high quality and makes the pictures look great offering billions of colors if i can get it

    Build Quality and Design

    12) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?
    YES

    13) How long do you want this laptop to last?
    3 years
    Notebook Components

    14) How much hard drive space do you want; 40GB to 120GB? as much as i can get at the highest rpm

    15) Do you need a DVD, DVD-CD/RW or DVD-R drive? yep

    tv plug would be excellent, want dvi out , at least 1000 mb of ram with room to expand for more
     
  8. ejl

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    there are only two asus notebooks that are 17" with the core duo. the a7j and w2j. however, the a7j is somewhat weaker and not as attractive, but it has dvi-out. the w2j looks like the w2v you like so much, but it doesn't have dvi-out. asus doesn't offer either with 7200 rpm hard drives.

    this is not the place for you to be posting this. you should post it in the what should i buy forum.
     
  9. indefuseable chronic

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    does the w2v have dvi out?
    if so...

    what would u say w2v vs w2jb wise ?? which is better along the lines of what im looking for. sorry for high jackin the forum. ill remember next time

    any other notebooks just as good and look just as good?
     
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    the w2v doesn't have dvi out either. the w2j is of course the superior machine.

    the toshiba p100 looks okay and has smilar specs. the macbook pro may be another one to look at, though it's probably a bit out of your price range. you can wait for the new sager 5760 or just pick up the 5720 if you don't mind a pentium m...
     
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    Well, I know that my friend has an ATI capture card which he hooks up to his cable and watches TV in a window. It displays in the native 320x240 or whatever the video feed default is, and he can stretch it beyond that in software to fullscreen or double size, and it shows up in a TV window, which you could stick in one corner and size whatever else you're working on around it so it's still visible when the window isn't in focus. Beyond that, I doubt there's anything specific to your requirements. It would definitely be in software though. There isn't an option to have two separate video feeds into the monitor with one in mini mode overlayed somewhere on the other. And you'd have to have a TV tuner to do what I'm talking about (I don't know... maybe that's included, I don't know the w2j specs).
    Cheers,
    Jay
     
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    with your needs in mind. I think you should consider Clevos (like Sagers models). they are very powerful and can meet your gaming needs for quite a long time. Their newest one isn't as good looking as the W2 series (what is?) but it's by far much better looking than what Dell offers. Since the W2 is an ensemble, you won't really have much of an option on screen as it'll be imported as is.. and right now seems like Asus is intent on delivering the W2jb with the lowr wxga resolution instead of the wsxga (although this may change). MSI also has some nice 17" models and there is also the Asus A7J series as well.
     
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    killer, ejl and that other dude- thansk guys appreciate it .

    any ideas where i can still get the higher res w2jb at?
    just bent on asus in the end i guess...


    ejl, yeah thats the sager thats like 12+lbs right ?

    what would u guys get if u were interested in the type of notebook i was
     
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    for now, no one is sure if the w2j will come with a higher resolution. the sager machine itself i hear was at 8.5 lb. if i wanted to have a powerful notebook, i would go with sager, no question. they are as powerful as it gets (except for the dell xps 1710). the gpu in the sager (7900gtx) makes the x1600 in the w2j look weak.
     
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    The Sager is 7.8lbs and has the Nvidia Go 7900, which currently is the best vid card you can get in a notebook
    http://www.sagernotebook.com/pages/notebooks/product.cfm?ProductType=5760
     
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    are there any other sager notebooks u would suggest besides the 5760? any like these which have the nice looks and build of the w2's ?
     
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    that's actually the best looking for Sager to be quite honest, their other ones either look really similar to the one I just showed you, or are boxy behemoths.

    And it seems that you don't want something powerful, you want something sleek. The Lambo is hardly high end, it just has a nice finish. the W2jb is very sleek but it doesn't have the most powerful vid card or a high res screen (at the current config).
     
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    does the sager come in black ? lol the more i look at it the better it seems. does the build include plastic ? also i cant find if it comes with subwoofers or not.

    would the w2's provide better sound quality ? thanks. imma buy something soon.
     
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    if i could get my hands on the w2ja, would u say that would be good enough to compete with teh 5760's visuals ? or is the gp the same
     
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    Can't you edit your post??
    GPU in Sager is about twice as good as GPU in W2j. Also the resolution is higher (WXGA+ vs WSXGA)
     
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    thnks for the input mastha...

    how is the 5760's sound system compared to the w2s?

    also does the 5760 come in black ?
     
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    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    No, Clevos are their default color. There's no review of the newest M5760..but the older model, the M570a (same chassis but older chipset) didn't have good reviews for it's sound. the W2V (same chassis as the W2J, but older chipset) had good sound.. for a laptop. If this is your first notebook, then keep in mind that sound quality is usually Bad or, not as bad but still bad, which is why many invest in external speakers for home use and/or headphones. You can find both reviews in the review section of the main site. And I'm not sure how you're going to import the W2ja unless you contact a willing reseller from some other country and pay the customs for it.. or wait and hope that Asus releases a higher resolution model for North America later on.
     
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    I had a Sager 5720 and it's sound wasn't that good comparing to for example Dell 9300, the diffrence is because Sager doesn't have "subwoofer". Though it has 4 speakers and can project "surround sound" quite good...for a laptop ;)
     
  25. indefuseable chronic

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    **** is there nothing with the looks and build of asus, the power of the sager and still have some frikkin good sound
    ?

    and comes in black. i like how the 5760 has that media player control in the front


    also heard about the new sony vaio ar 17.. that any good
    ?
     
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    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    nope, you're going to have to make a compromise. something as thin as the W2 won't have a high end vid card, it'll have something more mid range. MSI also has a black 17" widescreen and is also rather thin...but it too has just a mid range card. the 17" and 19" with those high end cards are either pretty bland or really ugly and not black. If you have a desktop, you probably might be better off using that as your gaming device.
     
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    how about the sony vaio ar 17 ?
     
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    its not out yet, its only been recently announced for Canada. And it'll probably be more than your maximum spending limits are too! It also has just a mid range card.
     
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    which would u guys say is more worth the money since theyre at the same range. the w2jb or the 5760 ?

    why am i just so inclined for a frikkin asus??!!!
     
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    do the w2v and w2jb have the same res?

    also......... what is the 5760 made out of ... any ... plastic??
     
  31. mastha212

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    Hey man, on the right bottom side of your posts you have something like EDIT, use it from time to time instead of writing a new one ok? And your question : it's really hard to say. With W2 you're buying not only laptop but also style, outstanding built quality, elegance and so on. With Sager you get most powerful gaming laptop you can get with additional connectors like DVI - typicall Lan-Party gear. It all depends what you are expecting from your baby ;)
     
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    gotcha. edit. lol

    the 5760... any plastic?
     
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    Yes, but it is high-quality plastic, I really can't complain about it. Go to Sager forum and ask about what you want/need to know.
     
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    i also don't believe that notebooks using aluminum, carbon fiber, or magnesium use it all over their notebooks, just in key areas, while other areas still use plastic.

    I think witht he money you have.. just use it to upgrade your desktop with a powerful vid card, then get a nice portable asus laptop.. I think the w5f may have a black colored option since you like black soo much. the older W2V has the wsxga screen, the x700 card, and has 2 rebates for it that'll push it down to below 2k.
     
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    shiet.... u think its worth it to get the w2ja imported ?



    I think witht he money you have.. just use it to upgrade your desktop with a powerful vid card, then get a nice portable asus laptop..

    thats teh best advice so far. thanks lol