8800M GTS in C90S/P, new facts (sort off).

So with the "weird" news about the Geforce 9 series, some people might have noticed that the 9500M GS & 8600M GT are the exact same card.

Well, in the last release of nvidia's drivers (171.xx), we can see the G94-9600GT. I googled it and found a chinese website ( http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/01/14/nvidia-geforce-9600gt-review ) with specs & review. It looks like the 9600GT & 8800M GTS are the about the same card (64 USP, same clocks, both 512MB GDDR3 1800 @ 256bits ). As most people know it, midrange cards are made in MXM-II. The 9600M GT (well, if they release it with mainly GDDR3 & 256bits, we never know if some manufacturers owuld like to put DDR2 & 128bits), it should be pretty near.

So it boosts the chance of seeing a 8800, but renamed in my opinion. I know they did confirmed something about the 8800M GTS in MXM-II but it might just be the 9600M GT

 

I almost don't care what the new card is as long as if we get new cards that show substantial gains over the current cards to make my c90s decision worthwhile and have scalability. I was worried that asus would be in the position to say "what you aren't happy with the performance spread between the 8600gt ddr2 and the 8600gt ddr3?" Whats the worth of having a laptops ability to upgrade the card when there is nothing substantial to upgrade to.

 

Believe it or not, the 8800m GTS or the 9600m GT will stomp the **** out of our 8600m GT's. They will be the answer to my issues with not being able to run 1680x1050 comfortably. This is great news and many thanks for the post. Hope hasn't ran out with me yet...I've seen things happen in hardware I never thought possible.

Such as a 7800 for AGP

 

Yup, the 8800M GTS + X7900 do score 11k in 3dmark06

 

Indeed! Wait...I thought the GTX does that, WTF DOES A GTX GET?

 

when you run 3dmark06 with an 8800gtx it just says "Win"

 

Agreed. Lol.

 

>.> please share where you pulled that score from? t7700 only gets a 8400 in 06, thats one heck of a jump for only .4 Ghz

 

Wait, sorry >->. I did messed up with the GTX.

But according to the link the 9600GT does score 11k

Wait: Isn't that the desktop GTX's score!!!? (at least with the first beta drivers in november 06)

 

9600M GT~~!

 

that's the desktop 9600, which is supposed to be an amazing card, but that's not going to be the mobile version, unfortunately...

 

mobile version will rack up around 7 ~ 8k most likely. Then people like me who cannot NOT OC it so YEY.

 

They memory will probably still be GDDR3 1800 @ 256bits so no difference there. The core might be under clocked from 650mhz to 550. Small gap to fit with OC.

The 9600M GT should be about the same as the 8800M GTS.

 

I..well, it's all speculation but I don't think they'll do that. A 256 bus on a midrange laptop card has never happened, AFAIK. However, they might be brave and try and help laptop uses out, who knows.

 

By the looks of things (in my opinion), a lappy with 9600mGT or 8800mGTX will be so fat and heavy it's inconvenient to carry around like it's 15~17" 8800mGT counterparts.

And for the price... you might as well buy an awesome QuadCore with 8800Ultra Desktop.

But then again... some people are willing to carry their 10kg power monster around...

 

how much is 10kg...

anyways i wouldnt mind putting one of these in my C90s

 

1 kilograms = 2.2...so about 22 lbs...

 

umm pretty sure mine doesnt weigh that much...

and umm can we use imperial measurments considering most of us are from the US and we pwn all :smile:

 

what ?! US should be independant from the British (and no offense their inconvenient Imperical measurement) ...so do they still teach Imperical at school? (*shock*)

ANYWAY back to the topic....

My estimate of 10kg comes from:

(1) any laptop (at the moment) that supports 8600m ABOVE has to be larger than 14" (therefore obviously 15" or 17" etc) , ASUS G2 is 4.4kgs with 8600mGT, I'd assume C90 with more hardcore specs would weigh around 5kgs.
(2) laptop bag...mouse...charger (the usual 3 things you carry around with you) , plus any CD cases, portable headphones, etc etc will add more weight

(1) + (2) = you've got yourself a pretty heavy set.

If you dun mind the weight, I'd say 8800 with C90 will perform so well, other lappy's will be jealous.

 

Well, you should realize that independence has nothing to do with the measurement units that people use in a certain country. The US uses the imperial system of measurements, because it's more convenient -- that's what people are used to using.

 

pretty sure the C90 is like...6.5 lbs or something, so it's just under 3 kg...MXM-II is a specification for size and power, so if they did put something in here it should be about the same size, and probably close to the same weight.

 

AFAIK, they never used a 256bits on a mid-range card, not only laptops. I think the time as come to put 256bits of midrange. 256bits + GDDR3 1800 is cheaper than 128bits + GDR4 2600 I believe. With such high resolution we now have (higher than 1024x768 now not only reserved for high end computers), we totally need the bandwith.

FYI, I think there is only 3 countries in the word still using Imperical, wich are the US and 2 african countries if I recatll. (not too sure though). But I would think that in some countries, like UK & Canada where the metric system is a "new" implementation that the differences are common knowledge, or a mix of the 2. For exemple, most of the time when we talk about weigth & height here we will use lbs & ft most of the time. (kg and cm in school though, formulas oblige) , while we use KMs & Celcius for distances & temperature.

If I'd told my friend I weight 92KGs, he'd look at me and say "huh?"

 

If this were the case, I'd be one happy fool. It'd be bye bye crippled 8600m GT and hello 9600m GT into my acer 5920g. I, for one, think so too, though i doubt the performance would match up 8800m GTX, i'd say higher than 8700m by a bit, maybe even on par? Since they'd been saying it's a die-hard shrink, then the MXM should be compatible with mxm 2.0 then.

If Asus manufactured this card for c90, i would gladly switch this in. A reflash of bios would prolly make it happen as to what a guy did on his acer laptop with an Asus 8600m GT 512mb Gddr2

 

The 8800M GTS, not GTX

The 9600GT has the same number of USPs as the 8800M GTS. Maybe higher clocked but I think it was pretty similar. According to the link, it scores 10.5k, wich is, a lot.

 

typographical error there, but that's the desktop version, who know's what Nvidia will do to the mobile version of it? I don't know about you, but if I'd still be happy even if it performs just marginally better than 8700m IF it is compatible with my laptop. I'll be happy that it actually works

 

I doubt they will cut the number of USPs

The 8700M GT performs a bit better than the desktop 8600GT I believe, and the 9600 is 2 times as powerfull

 

This all depends on Asus coming out with these cards for the c90s, I hope they dont do the old "Its not compatiable" routine.

As far as imperial measurments its convienient for day to day stuff for Americans, But if you go to univeristy and do anything involving science you would have to use SIU (Standard International Units) which are 90% metric.

 

We still use them day to day in Canada too! Well, it's pretty much a mix of them

Height/Weight= ft/lbs
Temperature: Celcius for pretty much everything except cooking, where we still use F most of the time. The 50+ people use F for everyday usage too.
Distance: For long distance, we use KMs but I'll more tend to say "hey, the trash is at 10ft " rather than saying 2.5m


I think you guys should switch to metric, people who learned the imperial won't use metric anyway so it won't change anything in their life while it will ease the youngest's life in the feature about that point