94C CPU !!! - A8Jm

Hey guys, this is my first problem with my A8Jm. Was running on AC for quite awhile, working away for a couple of hours. Noticed that it was about 62 - 63C CPU, and thought it was normal.

Left for a bit, came back, and when I touched the keyboard near the power button (right side) it felt very hot. So I checked the temp with NHC and Everest, and it showed 94C!!!. The fan didn't seem to come on at all. Any ideas ?

Update: Shut it down, let it cool down a bit, restart, fans came on. Leaving it now.. seems to be at 58 - 59 again, wth just happened? Is a 94C temperature normal at all ?

 

94 is not normal no. was your laptop on a flat suface? was it still functioning normal like was it frozen because of a program or anything? anything above 80 really isnt normal. how hot was the room temp? also you might want to keep it on dynamic switching the power is there when a program needs it and underclocks when not needed.

 

if u're running speedfan then turn it off. sometimes when i use speedfan on my z70va the fans randomly dont work. one option is to turn off speedfan the other is just to manually increase the fan that isnt running and it'll correct itself.

 

actually 58-59 is not normal either.
Just for a reference my E1505 stays around 35 degrees(power setting= Always On).
Try other softwares like core temp and mobilemeter.
If everything reports the same temp try something like speedfan to control the fan(s).

Also remember that there will be a system shutdown if the core temp reaches 100-105C.

 

Guys,

I have speedfan installed, but it never detected the fan sensors. I could never get it to work, it asked me to download profile or something from their site, but I have no clue what motherboard my A8Jm has (in Everest it says motherboard unknown).

Room temp is about 22C, notebook laying flat on wooden table, and notebook was functioning like normal before I shut it down.

I did have NHC on Max Performance, and P4G on Super Performance just to test things out. Right now they seem to be doing fine.

My CPU temp never goes lower than about 48 - 49 really, never had it below 40, maybe Dell's are different?

 

Well A8jm has a way better GPU than my E1505 so that might be causing the motherboard and cpu to heat up. To monitor all these temps you can use something like samurize.
Another thing to look at is the bios update.

 

after about 6 hours of gaming and running a CD, 58 isnt outrageous

 

Asus laptops run kinda hot. You cant compare to a dell cause its not. Its a powerfull small machine with a good GPU. 50-65 is norma and nothing to worry about. in the winter you will see a drop in temp due to cooler ambient temp/

 

You cant compare a 15.4in dell to a 14.1in laptop thats more compact and more powerful.

 

yea, but his first post looked like the system was idling so...

I know but in any situation a laptop should never reach 94C.

 

Well., so far it's not happening again, so I guess it was speedfan that caused it in the first place. Phew... made my heart stop beating for a bit there

 

Besides the different cooling systems that renders comparisions fairly useless, I also suspect the sensors between Asus laptops and the newer Dell's are calibrated differently. With the Dell's you hear many reports of CPU's idling in the 20s and 30s and maxing out below 50C. For Asus, typically you hear idle temps in the 40s and 50s with load temps in the 70s. I doubt that the heatsinks themselves could be that much different between the two brands that there would be a 20 degree delta.

This is true...hopefully it was speedfan that caused the fan not to start. Same kinda stuff could happen with an improperly set i8k/i9kfangui on a Dell.

 

Just remember if the CPU got to a critical temp The pc would shut down. So even though it was very high perminent damage is unlikely which is a good thing.

 

guys i posted a similar comment about the exact same thing happening on the w3j a couple days ago...and no i wasn't using speedfan

darrick: were u switching between ac and battery power at all before that happened by any chance?

 

my cpu idles between 48 - 51, above 50 fan kicks in. On load i've hit 63 while running counter strike etc.

Hmm if this happens again consider upgrading to the new bios?

 

jterp: No, I was just doing regular work, maintenance, defrag, etc. I did click on speedfan early on, and closed it.

Apparently there's a known issue with Speedfan and certain graphics cards, causing the fan to stop, hence this problem.

 

so it would seem both the x1600 and 7600 are affected by this

 

Looks like it, do you even have speedfan installed tho?

 

yes i have speedfan installed as well

 

Have you ever managed to get SpeedFan to detect your fan speeds?

I have no idea how to get it to run properly, it only shows CPU and HD temps, no fan info whatsoever.

 

SpeedFan is not compatible (yet?) with a large number of motherboards so it will not give us access to the Fan controls (which is really what we want).

 

Yeah, kinda defeating the purpose of calling it Speed Fan doesn't it

 

94C is not normal but its not overheating either (but you are almost there and its reason to worry). Your notebook can easily last a whole year under those temps i ve seen it happen with z70 and m6n which has a faulty heatpipe. Eventually they come back for repair becuase the heatpipes degrade even more and the temps start to reach over 100 which is overheating. Did you ever consider that the modding software you are using is actually doing bad things to your laptop. ?? just a thought

 

Well, I only wanted to run SpeedFan to see what kinda rpm's the fan is running at, and try compare it between the old and new BIOS (there was a change to the thermal policy as other users have experienced).

Never expected it to cause fans to fail at all. Oh well, live and learn I guess.

 

Usually myS96J is around 36-50c, so yeah, that seems high 0__o

 

I just got my A8Jm, and it's running hot...too hot to touch, while doing nothing.

I couldn't even hear/feel the fan if I put my ear to the vent. Something's not right.

I installed speedfan and all it shows me is HD0: 40c and Temp1: 70c, while doing nothing but booted up, sitting on my desk and plugged in. That can't be right, can it?

 

squidboy... don't load SpeedFan ... somehow it can conflict with your graphic card and cause the fan to stop running...

Try rebooting, don't load speedfan and see what temp u have (use NHC or something else)

 

Darrick did u get chance to try out nbprobe?

 

Zydus: No, not yet, haven't had time to play around. Probably will try tomorrow morning, I'll update you.

 

Nope, I ran 3dmark several times and the laptop just shut down in the middle of running it.

The fan isn't moving. It wasn't moving before I installed anything. I've owned several laptops and this baby is too hot to handle. Be warned.

I'll see what the wiz kids at portableone say tomorrow.

 

to me it seems like ur fan is broken, or no power is going to the fan so that it can spin to cool.

As someone mentioned above, DO NOT use speedfan it will stop ur GPU fan for the a8jm plz use NHC, and record ur Idle temps plz.

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

Yeah, I think you got a defective unit there. My fan runs fine.

 

I'm curious about how you got the GPU temp readings? What program are you using to get that temp. reading.

Please provide link if possible.

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

u can check temperature from within the nvidia drivers

 

zydus: Tried nbprobe... fan stops at around 49C, then spins at 3400 something rpm (forgot the exact value).

 

My fan was disconnected (!), but easily remedied. Some initial loops through 3dmark put it at about 57C.

Much better, and now on to other tweaks.

 

yup any hotter than 49 and fan starts, did you try with bios ver 208? It will spin when it crosses like 42 or something dont remember.

I think nbprobe is the best proggy to use, to get hdd / cpu temp and fan speed dont know why Asus wouldnt install it in factory

 

94C is re- diculous!

My Hyperthreading 3.4GHz P4 Gen1 XPS inspiron never gets above maybe 70 if it's hot in my room and I do heavy gaming with it on my lap (ie not on some kind of stand).

I would almost suspect the temp sensor was faulty.

 

his fan wasn't spinning thts why so much heat

 

Beltonius: Nah, the sensor wasn't faulty, it was SpeedFan that caused the fans to stop working, hence the extreme heat I felt near the right side of the keyboard.

 

Hey, squidboy - I had the same problem as you.
PortableOne forgot to connect my fan. Easily fixable, but still...

General question: is 67-70oC CPU OK after a prolonged session of Oblivion?
My system idles at 49-50.
I have an A8JM.

 

yup thats perfectly fine, same temperatures as me

 

I think idling at 49-50 sounds good. Mine does the same (although now I'm using Lapcool3, it's dropped about 4-5C).

I think CPU < 75 / 80 is quite fine, especially after fulll CPU use for an extended period of time. Maybe some CPU geek can confirm this?

 

To zydus: thanks, but - correct me if I'm wrong - didn't you say that yours maxed out at 63?
I guess I'm just paranoid.

I'm asking because Oblivion crashed on me after ~2 hours of play (artifacts, 0.2FPS, unplayable), and I'm worried that my temps are to blame.

 

63 while playing counterstrike source. After about 3hrs I did hit 65 once, but I havent had such prolonged sessions yet, busy with summer school and internship. Oblivion is more taxing on the system, so 67 degrees shouldnt be a cause of concern.

PS. Its nice to see you have read around before posting unlike a lot of users.

 

Okay. Thanks!

 

I think the Core Duo max temperature is 95c but it can run in 70's without a problem. This poll has the macBook (Core Duo) running at an average of 60-70c.

 

95c is not normal even keep running, please check it out the cpu usage. If not, something(hardware) make it hot, check the air flow and vent in the cpu cooling fan.

 

Thanks, but this problem was solved a while ago already .

It's SpeedFan that caused the fans to stop running. Since, I've followed Zydus' advice and used ASUS NBprobe instead to monitor fan speeds.

 

Considering the summer in Toronto, as Danny well knows, im sitting here in my solarium, the AC is off as there is a nice breeze outside, playing CS: source, pwr4gear on "GAME" during playign my cpu hit 67 degrees, moment i come to desktop withing seconds my cpu drops down to 54% clock speed and temps start lowering.

My ambient temperature rt now should be aorund 28 - 29 degrees.

PS: Darrick using nbprobe and the battery saving you will see the cpu actually goes as low as 20% of its clockspeed. This NHC cannot achieve. I tested the cpu clock with a few other programs and they all seem to agree. This confuses as some ppl have posted that the lowest the core duo's can go is approx 997Mhz or something