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    A8Jp just arrived! First pictures!

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by [amen warfare], Sep 22, 2006.

  1. [amen warfare]

    [amen warfare] Newbie

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    So this is my first post, hello everybody.

    After reading tons of reviews and post in here, I decided to do something productive, too.
    I bought the Book over www.mediafrost.de for 1414 € + 129 € for the Warranty Extension Package. It has following specifications:
    ASUS A8JP-4S015P
    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Prozessor T7200 (2.0 GHz, 667 MHz FSB, 4 MB L2 Cache)
    14" TFT, WXGA+ mit High Resolution Glare Type Color Shine Technologie, Auflösung 1.440x900
    ATI® Mobility Radeon™ X1700, 256 MB VRAM (512 MB HyperMemory)
    1024 MB DDR2-667 (2x512MB)
    120 GB HDD SATA 5.400 rpm
    8 x DVD-Super Multi D/L Double Layer
    0.3 Mega-Pixel Web-/Videokamera
    Intel 3945ABG WLAN 802.11a/b/g
    1000 MBit LAN
    Bluetooth 2.0
    Schnittstellen: Express Card, DVI Port (DVI-D), VGA, SPDIF, 5x USB 2.0, IEEE1394, TV Out, 4-in-1 Card Reader
    2.4 kg, 335 mm x 245 mm x 34,8 – 37,3 mm
    Windows XP Professional

    I'm sorry, i did not find my camera, so i had to use my W810i for taking the pictures... I'm also sorry for the mess in my living room ;). I guess its better to open the pictures in a new tab.
    Later i will add some pics and some benchmarks like SuperPi...

    -edit-
    SuperPi (fresh out of the box): 1m 2,891s for 2M



    The package arrived:
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    "Rock solid, Heart touching!" If you think about the fact, that i needed more than 4 months to decide which laptop to buy...
    [​IMG]

    First glance:
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    To quote Prince: "You sexy m...":
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    Yay!!!
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    German keyboard layout:
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    Laptop compared to the power pack:
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  2. mastha212

    mastha212 Notebook Evangelist

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    Any news about GF7700 version?? I'm checking MediaFrost every day hoping to see it :( Well, I guess I have to spend a little more time with my W3 ;)
     
  3. robohgedhang

    robohgedhang Notebook Evangelist

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    So how's the gaming performance? Drool... drool......
     
  4. I'm Confused?

    I'm Confused? Notebook Evangelist

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    The GF7700 got around 11K in 3dmark03. I forgot the site but its in the forums somewhere and its in translated chinese, go its so crazy. [Amen Warfare] great purchase and nice pics!
     
  5. [amen warfare]

    [amen warfare] Newbie

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    3DMark06 Basic Edition Score: 2140

    Don't know if this is good or bad... never had such a powerful machine. I must say, that I couldn't change the standard settings of the Benchmark, so I do not know if it was the Benchmark the PC needed.

    /M
     
  6. mastha212

    mastha212 Notebook Evangelist

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    2140. May be good may be bad. If it was on stock drivers than I guess it's fine, will be better with Omega's or something. X1600 with DDR3 (W3) 2200 @ stock clocks with Catalyst 6.8
     
  7. [amen warfare]

    [amen warfare] Newbie

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    Yeah, every test i did was with stock drivers...
     
  8. MilestonePC.com

    MilestonePC.com Company Representative

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    Great, thanks for sharing with us.

    At stock drivers, your 3DMark06 is good, also doa 3DMark05 test, PcMakr05.

    Then you may want to upgrade the drivers to either the latest Catalyst or use Omega and re-do the test to see the performance increase.

    Also, do a batterylife test by putting the screen brightness as low as possible but make sure it is still easily readable. Wifi on, and do light tasks like surf the net and word documents.

    Then describe to us how the viewing angles are, horizontal and veritcal, and quite possibly show us pictures of it.

    Lastly test the scaling ability of the screen, can the screen handle lower resolutions other than native and still look good? So take your laptop, drop the resolution of the background and then also play games at a lower resolution.

    Thanks! :D, and Enjoy your laptop!
     
  9. Matta

    Matta Notebook Consultant

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    Three questions:

    1. What kind of screen does A8Jp have ?

    2. Does somebody know for sure will Europe ever see A8Js with GF Go 7700 inside ? I would really like to know that because I want to buy that one, if there isn't planned for Europe then I would go for A8Jp.

    3. To amen warfare: What do you think about screen resolution ? Is 1440x900 too small for 14" screen ? I think that I would rather love 1280x800 instead.
     
  10. [amen warfare]

    [amen warfare] Newbie

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    I have the same resolution on my 19" Screen and its fine on both... I have good eyes and need the space and if its too small you can still change the dpi of the letters, can't you?
     
  11. mastha212

    mastha212 Notebook Evangelist

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    It's already in Czech Republic, I'm thinking about going there and buy it myself :cool:
     
  12. Matta

    Matta Notebook Consultant

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    Can you give me some link so I can show it to my dealer (who's trying to convince me that AJ8s won't come to Europe) ? :)
     
  13. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    I dont think the a8jm was for sale in europe. I dont think they sell both models at once in europe. So it follows logic that they wouldnt sell it if they sell the a8jp but nothing is written in stone definitely. I have a feeling companies specialize in importing too...

    Also to say it WONT be for sale is entirely market speculation based on the last models....
     
  14. apollo78

    apollo78 Newbie

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    The A8Jm is gettable in france
     
  15. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

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    Congradulations.

    Do you think you could try to find out the clock speeds of your MR X1700. Given the fact that the A8J with the Go 7700 uses low cost DDR2 400 memory, I've got a feeling that ASUS is skimping on the A8Jp's MR X1700 too. That would explain why between the MR X1700 and Merom, your computer doesn't noticably lead the W3J's MR X1600.
     
  16. Darrick

    Darrick Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Mastha: Collecting ASUS notebooks are we ? :)
     
  17. zydus

    zydus Notebook Evangelist

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    Mastha whatever happened to the benchmark results of the W3J and the A8Jm lol i guess its too late now ...

    but looking at the A8Js does that mean we should be able to swap out our lcds for the 1440 ones from teh A8Js ?
     
  18. mastha212

    mastha212 Notebook Evangelist

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    @ Matta :
    http://www.xcomputer.cz/DetailPage.asp?dpg=66490
    http://www.alza.cz/asus-a8js-4s009h...dvd-rw-dl-ram-wifi-bt2-0-cam-xp-ho-d66491.htm
    http://www.elektro-1.cz/DetailPage.asp?DPG=66491&CatId=341
    http://www.nakupni-dum.cz/asus-a8js-t7200-200ghz-1024mb-120gb-gf7700-dvdrw14/f-5-s-5-dp-70214/
    I think that's enough ;)
    @ Darrick : no, I'm just crazy about laptops ;) but DDR2 400 in GF7700?? Hmm, I guess I will stay with my W3j's DDR3 ;)
    @ Zydus : swaping the lcd's? Hmm sounds good but I don't know if it's possible in W3, in A8 should be no problem
     
  19. ltcommander_data

    ltcommander_data Notebook Deity

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    http://www.google.com/translate?u=h...98/98310.html&langpair=zh-CN|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8

    You can see a picture of the RAM on page 5 at the bottom. If you search it you will find:

    http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/106

    Infineon HYB18T512161BF-25 32MX16 DDR2 400MHz FBGA 84 Lead Free

    Certainly disappointing. I should point out since you do a lot of overclocking that some M56P MR X1600s actually use:

    Hynix HY5RS123235FP-14 16MX32 GDDR3 700MHz FBGA 136 Lead Free M56P

    Those are modules originally meant for the desktop X1600XT. If someone happens to have that in their W3J, that would definitely be an overclocking gem.
     
  20. mastha212

    mastha212 Notebook Evangelist

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    How can I check memories on GPU? Do I have to open the laptop or there is some program to do that?
     
  21. Matta

    Matta Notebook Consultant

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    And what about A8Jp and X1700 ? Does it have DDR3 or DDR2 ? Here's ( go to page 3) the side-by-side picture of two modules but it's to small to see.

    And another thing: Does it really matter if A8Js 7700 uses DDR2 memory ? It still outruns A8Jp X1700 by fair margin. :rolleyes:
     
  22. ltcommander_data

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    I think you have to actually open it and check. I don't know of anything that can actually determine what the manufacturer of your GPU memory is.

    I can't say but judging by the fact that a X1700 with Merom can't outperform a X1600 with Yonah I'd bet the A8Jp is using 400Mhz type memory too. This would make it either DDR2 or GDDR2 since GDDR3 usually doesn't go that low. It could be DDR1 too but that's unlikely.

    The type of memory is significant in the sense that GDDR3 runs cooler and uses less heat which is something everyone can benefit from. The use of GDDR3 also implies higher stock clock speeds and therefore better performance. It would also imply higher overclocking room if you are interested in that.

    In terms of the A8Js' Go 7700 beating the A8Jp's MR X1700 despite DDR2 that is true. However, the W3J with Yonah and MR X1600 seems to match the A8Jp, which implies that a W3J with Merom will be even faster than the A8Jp. That basically means that the Go 7700 may be newer and have more pipelines, but isn't really much faster than the W3J with Merom and it's higher clock MR X1600. Personally, for me it just makes me feel better that if I were to choose the Merom W3J, I wouldn't be sacrificing performance for build quality.
     
  23. stamar

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    When the x1600 was released it came in regular and hd.

    I do believe it was released in an asus notebook, and it might have been the a8ja.

    The regular version had ddr2 and the hd version had ddr3.

    You can go ahead and google the ati x1600 hd, thats the version most notebooks have that are for sale in the us. But they dont advertise it. I think the acer 5672 has the regular version.

    Anyhow, count on both of these cards having a ddr3 version as well just following how video cards are released and the recent past.
    When a x1700 gets to NA it will have ddr3 because it has to compete with the x1600 with ddr 3 as well.

    Now, the 7600 wasnt the same case when it was released, in the a8jm initially. But it follows logic that it will follow the same pattern.

    I just want to point out that the memory used is not permanent to the model number.
     
  24. Dalantech

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    I think the difference in performance between the 7600 and 7700 is going to show up when you enable AA, AF, and HDR -the 7700 will take less of a performance hit...
     
  25. Matta

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    We are forgetting one fact that could explain low performance increase of 7700 and x1700 compared to 7600 and x1600. :eek:
    A8Js and A8Jp have higher resolution screen (1440x900) compared to A8Jm and W3J (1280x800) !

    Under same setup performance increase should be much higher...
     
  26. Empulse

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    So it actually is here, the x1700 ;)

    There the waiting starts again. I don't think it should take much time to implement the new cards into the V1J (and other models).

    Fingers crossed.
     
  27. mastha212

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    3marks are done on the same resolution (05:1024x768 / 06:1280x1024), I guess someone have to buy it and check for himself :p
    BTW : besides I'm not afraid, second 1gb Corsair stick is on the way, so all future A8jp's owners - bring it on!! :D Heheh just kidding, I'm shi..ing my pants ;)