ASUS F3SA-a1 DIV output no higher than 1440X 900!

Actually the flickering from the vga cable, is not caused by the screen refresh or the connector type but by the cable itself. Are you using the (very thin) VGA cable that came with the monitor? Higher resolutions require more signal output, and it sounds to me that the signal is weak. That's most likely caused by noise/loss/degradation and you need a shielded cable rather if that's what is bothering you. Shielded cables are thick, thicker than power cables and are much stiffer.

 

Thanks for the tip
ya, i am using the cable that came with the monitor. And it is thinner than the white thick ones that i was using with my old CRTs. I will try that went i get home

Still no words from asus Lets hope they dont go on xmass break before they give me a solution

 

That does not guarantee it works, that only shows that the framebuffer displays that output (unless he took a photo showing it worked). When I set mine to 1920x1080, I get 1680x1050 which is clear but needs to pan and scroll to see the rest of the screen (ie: the framebuffer is there, but the display is definitely not showing that resolution).

It shouldn't. But what I'm trying to get at is that implementation might be partially responsible for loss of functionality, seeing how there are many things "new" in Vista that need fixing, it would not be a surprise...

As far as cables go, there should be a ferrite bead on each end in order to reduce interference. VGA is really not the way to go with this type of screen, but if it works...

In any case, as far as troubleshooting goes, I would try to completely uninstall the ATI drivers, then reinstall them with the monitor attached in hopes that it sees it.

 

I did unintall and reinstalled the drivers with the dvi connected. for ALL 7 DIVERS catalyst 7.4 all the way to 7.11.
And its "seeing" the monitor. Like under display properties, it actually says Viewsonic VM....., but it just wont show me the 1680X1050 option!
But if i use a VGA, it doesnt identify the monitor, so i just get an "Generic Monitor", but it works. (well barely, like you said, vga isnt the way to go) but better than nothing.

To be fair i have to make a comment about brands like asus.
Yes the laptop is great, and so is the price, but things like this should not happen. As this is a major design flaw, and also shows lack of product testing! It's things like this that shows different between big names like ibm and hp and brands like acer and asus

 

well, you didn't have to go there
Asus is actually a bigger company than you think, it's just that their notebook market space is currently a lot smaller than the mentioned companies(IBM/Lenovo , HP, Dell). As a matter of fact, quality testing is completely subjective and not all bugs can be fixed out the door, especially with computers with the number of "new" drivers released since its manufacture. Besides, most companies like Dell and HP don't care about these minute details and lets the users be the guinea pigs with fixes after they have been discovered or complained about.

 

lol I didn't go "there" I know what you mean, and yes i know that Asus is big, and they actually make MBs for most of the other companies, hp imcluded. And I still like my laptop. For the money, i would never been able to have gotten the same in an HP, well maybe the 8510p.

But what i meant is big names do actually test their products better. And disign them better( by that i mean they put more time on their industrial design). Before i bought the F3SA, i was really considering just getting one of those new gen HP pavilions. I mean heck, its supper well designed! Ports are where you need them. (assuming that you are right handed), speakers are well allocated and loud. Including the embeded remote.

I guess you got the point. In no time i was bashing asus. All i want if for them to come up with a fix for my problem before xmass! lol

 

Funny how you say that. I remember about a year ago before HP generally took over the notebook retail market, I was scrutinized for saying that their dv series was looking good for them as at the time owned a dv1000(that was my first love). Some of the ASUS fans were saying this "you own an HP notebook...... you should be bannished from this forum just for admitting to owning one."..

Anyhow, it's not likely that you'll be using anything close to this power in an HP laptop as there isn't anything with a 8600 GT or a HD 2600 except the higher (not much people buy) models. On that note, I would still say that your likely in the same position if you chose an ATi HD 2600 notebook other than an Asus.

 

Ya i know
I posted in the HP 8510p thread about my problem, but doesnt seem to be getting any replies.
Which makes me think that thair hd2600 is probably running fine.
Including the fact that i recall reading some of them doing bench mark on with an external monitor, dont know if it was 1680X1050.

But ya, still puzzled that no that many people have this issue.
its not like i am trying to hook it up to a 50 inch 3000X6000 monster lol

BTW, I still have a DV1000! lol well my gf does. And i love it!! shes got it with a 12cell batt. Man it runs cool, quiet, smonth and long!!! like 8 hours on batt. Nuts.
And just bought a module of 1gb DDR2 667. Only to find out that ddr and ddr2 are different modules
WTH lol
know any place to get cheap ddr 1gig?

 

It sounds almost like it's a bugged EDID on the monitor, that's not allowing 1680x1050 to be selected when using a digital connection. Try Powerstrip, see if the monitor allows you to update the EDID.

 

Yep, that's what I was trying to say with my earlier post, but without really knowing the name of the firmware/protocol. Seems the name is EDID

 

Sorry, but what's EDID? And power strip? You mean like a UPC?
Btw, I did try this on 3 different 22 inch monitors: Mine(Viewsonic), MAG, and an HP. All with the same result.

 

Then it's clearly not the monitor, but
1. The GPU drivers.
or
2. The GPU itself.
or
3. The cable, somehow -- but that's very unlikely.

 

well, cant be the drivers. I pretty much tried all verstions of catalist from 7.11 all the way back to 7.04, i dont see any point going beyond that
If its GPU, itself, then I am hoping that asus could give me an replacement.
Still waiting for their answer

 

Powerstrip is a program.
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm

Download the shareware version and see if it lets you get 1680x1050.

 

Cool, thanx, I will give it a try.
Now i gotta a question, all these programs are based on windows correct?
If thats the case, can i assume that all of them are getting their system info from windows? Or are they sacanning the system on their own?
What i mean is, if i can't see the resolution under Display Options, why would i be able to see it using a different program?
I am asking this, cuz both ati tools, and catalyst diplay program didn't show me anything different than what windows already shown me

 

Ok, someone from driver heaven has the same problem, and somebody posted this:

Any ideas?

 

I know how to do it for an nVidia driver, but my understanding was you couldn't edit in custom resolutions in ATI's newer drivers. That's why I suggested seeing if you could use Powerstrip to get Vista to recognize that 1680x1050 is the monitor's default resolution, since adding it as a custom resolution is difficult and/or impossible.

 

Thanx odin, i will try the power strip as soon as get home tonight
I just hope that asus consiter this to be a "problem" so they can fix it instead of just leaving it to me.

 

I don't think it's Asus' problem, really. It seems like an incompatibility with your GPU drivers and the monitor, though since it happens on all monitors, I'm unsure of what to think. I would try a dual-link cable, and also try powerstip, and if neither of those work, you may just have to use a digital 1440x900 or an analog 1680x1050.

 

Ok, just a quick update.
Got an email back from asus tech suport.
Apparently, this is a problem from the driver, and asus is already doing testing on the new driver with fix for this.
I was told that they will be releasing it soon,
So i will keep my fingers crossed and post the result here as soon as get any

 

That's good to hear, keep us posted on this!

 

Well no news, I really hope i dont have to wait like a month for them to release this thing while my brand new 22" display is just sitting there collecting dust.

I got a ticket report number for this problem from asus:

192 923

I sugest that if anybody else has this problem should call asus up and get their name added to this. At this point right now, the more noise we make about this the more pressure there is to get it fixed.
Those have 8510p would probably have this issue too, also those who got
F8SA.

 

Don't let it collect dust, just use the analog cable for now!

 

HAHAHA
I guess you haven't read my other thread yet!
Ya analog no longer works either!
I dont know if i whould cry, cream, call up and ***** at the asus tech support, ***** at the vendor, or just give up!

 

Have you tried to restore the system, or a clean install?

 

Ya that will be my next step, but i already got so much stuff in it and really dont have the room to back it up.
Even if this works ,it will get me back to the original state at best. But ya, suuuuure i will do it, while crying.
Sight*, who would have tought, after 3 weeks of researching on what to get, still ended up with all this pain.
Mind you i still havent tested the eSATA port and bluetooth yet.

 

I didn't get a chance to test those on the one I had either.

 

OI?!
Any update??
I'm interested in buying this lappy=)
MY Acer almost die..

 

Your problem is coming if you clone the picture on your laptop monitor and your seperate monitor. I believe the A1 has a 1440 x 900 resolution. Try having the picture only on the seperate monitor and it should give you the proper resolution. Single Link DVI cables can support upto 1920X1200 85 Hz.

 

Yes i done all of that already. The problem is the driver.

But thanks tho

 

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Any update? I own a F3SA-A1 and am curious about your results with the latest drivers from ATI, version 8.3.

Jeremy