ASUS F3SV-A1 or wait for ASUS V1S

Hi there.

I've been looking around for a laptop recently as i have just moved away from my desktop computer and need a laptop for university work and entertainment. Im trying to decide between getting the ASUS F3SV-A1 or waiting for the ASUS V1S.

I am not a huge gamer, but do enjoy to play games quite often. I like the look of and the price of the F3SV, but i could stretch my budget a couple of hundred dollars if it would make a world of difference. I am also a little concerned about the battery life on the F3SV, a review i read here gave it a very short 1 hour expectancy.

I've also looked at the G1s, which isn't entirely out of my price range, but im not too fond of that 'gamer' look, and id rather not have a laptop that got too hot or noisy. The 14" laptop with the 8400 GS would also be a consideration, but im not sure if that would be sufficient graphics power.

So my main question is whether or not its worth the wait for the V1s, and is it going to totally blow my budget? (2000 US MAX! id rather lower)

 

The current V1 is $1999-$2099 retail so I'd expect it to be the same for the V1s.

 

The F3sv-A1 is a good machine if you want to have a lot of power and don't move around a lot. It's a bit on the heavy side and has weak battery life like I noted.

 

Also the main difference has not been mentioned yet.

The F3 is a budget laptop whereas the V1 is a business machine. That means all-around better quality and durability.

So if you want better chances of your laptop lasting for 3 years or more while being moved around every day, get the business machine. If you just want the power and you're going to move it around less, or you don't need it to last more than 1-2 years, get the budget laptop.

 

Thanks for the responses, i think i'm going to go for the F3. Although i like the idea of a more reliable/longer lasting notebook, i don't really have the extra cash at hand.

 

I am not sure I can agree with EBE's assessment of the Asus budget line.

While I can concede that the Acer notebooks begin to look shabby after a few years, although still running fine, I cannot see the Asus "F" series budget line go sour after two years of heavy use. In any case, the internals are NOT going to peter out after EBE's suggested two year time.

 

Well, I wish it were like that. Perhaps it's like that, who knows. ASUS budget lines are usually better than the competition's (and much better than Acers) but still I wouldn't trust it to run 2-3 years without problems.

On the other hand, the business machines have other problems, like batteries wearing out etc.

 

You are using budget very loosley. I have to agree with Gautum. IF anything the F3sv is mainstream. Budget laptops are usually not selling for minimum 1400 dollars. BUdget laptops go for maximum 1200. The F3sv is quite durable. Asus provides a 2 year warranty, so I usually like to give laptops a good 5 years after the warranty to be still usable, by industry standards and by condition. Realistically after 4-5 years you will begin to look for an update, if you are the average user. I still have 10 year old laptops, thats right from 1997 that work very well with XP installed, not fast but...well.

 

I'm considering the f3sv. My number one priority is screen quality. Is it good? I read it should be, but I saw some not so impressive asus screens today. These were in cheaper models, but I started thinking maybe they use the same screens throughout.

At the moment it's between f3sv and dell 1520. Vaios and Fujitsus have good screens, but I need the higher resolution.

 

I believe ASUS announced an MSRP of $1899, so I'd expect it to be around $1849 at retailers.

 

F77 please stop dredging up old threads that have been resolved to ask the same question you have already asked in three other threads.

 

Matt, be quiet.

 

Your a condescending nitwit, Dont expect people to help you when you behave in that fashion.

 

Help?

- The F3sv hasn't been released, yet you're saying it has a bad screen?
- The V1J / V1S have matte screens, yet you're calling me confused and tell me to stop posting?

 

The F3Sv was released weeks ago... You can read a review of it here http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3794
Asus Colour shine technology is their Glossy screen coating, the V1S is advertised as having a Colour shine Screen, One would safely assume its glossy. I meant you were confused inso far as you were saying the V1s had a 667mhz FSB when it actually has a 800mhz FSB. I didnt say stop posting, Just stop posting the same question in numerous threads that dont really relate to your question.

I should know, I was the one who brought the F3Sv to the attention of the forum when it was first announced on the Asus website.

 

I think a lot of confusion is caused by different Asus versions for different regions.

European f3sv is not released yet, it will preliminary be released mid-aug. V1J is matte, and there is no reliable information about the european V1s yet. Two retailers have it on their websites, but the specifications seem to be copy-pasted from an older model, hence the 667mhz thing.

One more thing, my interest in the f3sv was sparked by the review you linked. It says: "It is indeed a very satisfying screen with excellent indoor viewing angles. Images appear rich and vibrant. Games and films are lifelike." I'd still like to hear what made you say the f3sv screen is bad.

 

From reading the complaints in the F3Sv owners lounge. I think you owe me an apology given everything I have said has actually been correct and you have been very rude given as I have done nothing but try and help you.

 

Lol? As I said, the f3sv and v1s aren't out and the v1j is matte. You owe me an apology for acting like a forumpolice when I'm posting in threads that concern these exact models.

 

The F3Sv that is released in the UK will have the same build quality as the F3Sv released in the US, so your point is somehwat redundent. The V1JP, Which is the gaming version of the V1J is Glossy, As is the V1S. http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3412&review=Asus+V1JP you can read the review of the glossy screen there. The V1S is listed as having a colour shine screen which is Asus's way of saying glossy.

 

I've described the official information available in europe, it differs from yours - matte screens and 667 bus as described - and until something reliable shows up there's just speculation.

 

Your an idiot if you think Asus is going to release a new laptop with the old motherboard. http://www.nexus13.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=&idproduct=1155
See that? Thats a european seller, Offering the t7500 which is 800mhz, see the colour shine bit? thats the glossy part.
Here it is again
http://www.esoph.com/pub/Portable_A...-sec-produit-cat-1696-id-20026.htm?origin=221
and again
http://www.pc-look.com/boutik/13881.html?referer=i-comp
All with the 800mhz T7500.

 

The 667 thing was about the v1j, but thank you for providing links to another model.

 

The screen quality is great. However that is MY opinion and yours may be different.

And I can assure you the f3sv is released... as I am typing on it.

 

No, it has not been released. In europe. As I've said time upon time.

And there's no official information stating the f3sv or v1j will have the exact same components here as in the us, again as opposed to what matt says.

 

I guess you must mean the F3Sv-A1? Because there's definitely F3Sv's (F3Sv-AP) in the UK...
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Asus_F3SV_Laptop_F3SV-AP073G/version.asp
http://www.nexus13.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=0&idproduct=1121

 

F77 once again proven wrong

 

Hey bud,

sorry to tell you but they are right. The F3sv has been released globaly. No region has not yet received it. Maybe you are thinking of a specific model. Just so you know, a notebook like the F3sv is generally not available through normal or big name retail stores, and is instead reserved for computer and hardware specific stores, which are still pretty big but there main sales are computers and other electronics.

Anyway, you are right about the F3sv not having the same parts in different regions, becuase each region has its own standards and specifications and regulations it has to follow. But I can assure you that the base system is the same.

All F3sv is released with the Santa Rosa Platform, offering the 800Mhz Intel Merom processors, and the Nvidia 8600m GS. Other components, like hard drive, wireless card, tv tuner, etc. vary from country to country.

 

This is so useless.

I talked to the two largest distributors in Stockholm. Are they lying when they say the f3sv is expected for release mid-august? There is NO f3sv available yet in my country. Zero.

This is retarded, I'm done with this forum, bye.

 

Your country != Europe.

ggkthxbye

 

-cough- http://shopping.kelkoo.se/ctl/do/search?siteSearchQuery=f3sv&fromform=true&x=0&y=0

 

"Preliminärt 14 st. 2007-08-18"
"Ej i lager"

Want me to translate it matt? The god damn computer isn't in stock.

Keep trolling all you want, I bought a different computer. Bonafide, you're right, in all fairness.

 

I thought you left the forum

 

A ban would help with that. What an ignorant nitwit.

 

Hi everyone,
I'm not sure if I'm meant to introduce myself or anything before I post but I've been a lurker here for about 3 weeks and have been considering my options for a notebook I can take to university (Yes I'm Aussie) and play games with that I also like the look of and so far only 2 have caught my eye and guess what, yep you guessed it its either the dell inspirion 1520 T7300 or the ASUS V1S-A1 T7500!!!

I'm having some serious doubts about the dell (in which I've already ordered) and I want the ASUS (I think). anyway there is a gentleman on here from down under called MATT_H1!! and I was hoping I could chat with you/him about the ASUS and how do I get my greasy little hands on the VS1 and does it cost more or less than the Dell 1520 with all the extras (which I've ordered with my dell). basically I wanted to know will the ASUS V1S with everything you have on it (matt_h1) cost me more than $2500 AU??? and where and how do I order one as I'm pretty sure there are none in WA at the moment (no I'm not a tool like the previous europian guy 77 and if they are available I'd be more than happy to be informed as to where i can order one from)

thanks again everyone, If I've broken any forum intro rules sorry I'll try and make up for it!.


cheers

 

Busy lad it might have been easier to PM me. But anyway.

In Australia the standard configuration comes with the T7300 not the T7500 but we get Vista Ultimate instead of business, Asus is planning to upgrade the T7500 to the T7800 in the next week so I would assume the Australian Model will get an upgrade to the T7500 or T7800, It should be much the same price, the reason for the upgrade is Intel has lowered their prices with the T7800 the same price as the T7500 was a month ago.

I wrote a review of the Dell 1520 and I returned mine due to the shockingly poor build quality and the insanely bad customer support.

The V1S is available in Aus for $2500 exactly http://www.betterit.com.au/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=93642

I had a look and couldnt see any WA resellers but there are plenty that ship there and shipping is like ~$10

Key differences between the V1S, You wont have to wait 2 months before the V1S ships, Dell has massive delays on the 1520

The V1S is over half a kilo lighter

The V1S is razor thin, In some places its less than half the height of the 1520

Build quality is _alot_ better

E-sata, HDMI, Fingerprint scanner, 360degree swivel camera(vs stationary in 1520), Gigabit ethernet (vs 10/100 in 1520).

I had the 1520 for under four days and it made me so unhappy, I love the V1S, its beautiful and light, Its perfect for uni, I got 5 and a half hours in a lecture the other day on battery (modular+main).

There are three major draw backs to the V1S, The left click is a bit dodgy, It dosent always register unless you press hard, The FN and Ctrl keys are swapped, If your a first time notebook user this wont be an issue for you as your not used to the normal layout, In a month I probally wont notice it. The third and possibly biggest problem is the battery, We are not to sure if this is an issue yet, it may not be, But I had a problem where the battery showed a massive ammount of battery wear (13% after draining the battery down it mostly fixed itself and now shows 1%, 1% is still alot for three charges, but many machines often spike to begin with then stabilise and dont lose any for months.

 

Hello,
thankyou for the very quick reply!, I have another query if thats alright? you personally have the V1S-A1 intel T7500 with the Nvidia 8600GT 512MG!! and I'm guessing you ordered from the states right? how long would i have to wait until it might be released in Australia? should I also order from overseas?

The specs on the ASUS V1S are extremely impressive esspecially considering the NVIDIA GEFORCE 8600M GT/512MB (TC 1GB) the 512MB is what gets me though, can that be true? wouldn't it be the 256MB?

For roughly the same price as the DELL T7300, 2.0Ghz, 8600M GT 256MB, 3G RAM with 160G hard drive you get a better unit with (nearly) equal memory, faster processor and a faster graphics card?! its maddness! I really want the one you have because I want it to last, that and the fact you know what your talking about!. The DELL option still seems "ok" to me but the grainy screen complaints are what I'm extremely worried about, nothing of the sort has been said about the ASUS and from all the gaming reviews I've read people love it for their games also!. could you possibly tell me how much you ended up paying for your ASUS V1S

p.s the review you have linked through to, is that also a V1S-A1? I'm not really a noob with computers but with laptops I am and your right this will be my first purchase and on the link provided it did'nt say V1S-A1 it said ASUS V1S-AJ037G T7300 2.0 160 2G 15 VBU

is there a difference?

thanks again. from busy_lad, oh and could you tell me how I PM you?

 

From personal experience, this F3sv-a1 has been a disappointment. It runs really hot with terrible battery life. The GPU is not strong, and performs poorly on games.

The only thing good about this cpu is the Display and CPU. The colors and brightness is really vibrant. And the CPU is very fast for multitasking and rendering files.

I got this laptop for 1300$ flat, thats the reason i decided to keep it. IF your not a daily gamer, then get this laptop.

 

Busy Lad: Yes it comes with the 8600GT w 512mb Vram.
Yes the link I provided is the V1s
Now I was very lucky in that when I ordered the V1s the Australian dollar was doing particularly well, It will cost you around $1900 USD for the V1s in my signature and then if you want the Modular battery you are looking at another $100USD, now at todays exchange rate that is $2320 AUD WITHOUT the battery, And $2440with it. Now ontop of that you will have to pay Customs when it comes to Australia, You will pay 10% and a $50 processing fee which will be roughly $300 so $2620 WITHOUT the battery. In terms of time mine took exactly 7 days but I really rushed it through customs by tracking it online, the minute it arrived I rang AusPost and got a customs ref number, Downloaded the forms, Faxed them in, got them to email me the Credit card validation form then faxed it back, Usually it spends about 2 weeks in customs and mine spent 3 days. I would strongly recomend waiting 2 weeks in either case, The USA model is getting a free upgrade to the 2.4Ghz CPU and it is quite possible that the AU model will get an upgrade to.

 

Hello,
wow this thread is viewed a lot. thanks for that its much appreciated. I would not buy the T7300 version of this as I would really want the upgraded version only problem is my order from Dell has already been shipped!! from all the reviews I thought it was going to take months, I ordered it on the 17th! and its already on its way to Australia? I smell something dodge' maybe they downgraded something so the wait time was not as long!! OH LAWD!. I guess all I can do now is wait and see for myself what Dell has to offer me and if its really worth sending it back and ordering the ASUS from the states or if its even worth keeping ;( I want a pretty screen so my games will play well and also so I won't get pissed of at it, some of the things I've read are horrendous and others are perfectly fine? matter of prefference or ignorance I do not know but on things for sure the reviews are very varied indeed.

pray for me, jks. I think I'll end up doing exactly what you've done matt_h1 but I'll have to wait longer than you for the same thing as that whole USD thing will blow my budget to pieces. wish me luck, I think I might even post a Dell review when I get it lol.

busy_lad XP

 

Theres a tonne of Dell reviews on the site if your worried about that. Also dell has a 15 day (30day maybe) Sastisfaction garuntee where you can return it free of charge and get a full refund, I hope theres no problems with yours becaus dealing with their support is a nightmare, The biggest difference I have found between the 1520 and the V1s is the weight and size, It felt like I was carrying around a brick when I had the 1520, Looked like it to.

 

yea i agree with unk3 f3 is more the less a dissapointment. however, the price is REALLY amazing to be honest i got mine with 3GB for 1300 and i got a 80GB ex drive with that too...but dont expect this guy to be a gamin machine. the extra 400 bucks will get me a new ipod now anyways! its really up to u...

 

damn, do you seriously think the V1s with the 8600GT w/512mb won't run games well? thats a little scary considering that most people on this web site think and state that the 8600GT 256mb Nvidia in their dell 1520's seem to do the job just fine. From what I've seen the ASUS looks like a better deal, is it possible for you to nit pick the ASUS to somehow change my mind into thinking its a no good peice of plastic? matt_h1 is very convinced and convincing when it comes to talking up V1S as being a good machine and I personnally believe he's right.

I'll be waiting for your reply Sunnyass!, busy_lad

 

oh p.s can you see my bunny avatar??? it said that there was an error uploading it but I can see it?? ftw???

 

Busy_lad, Yes we can see it, And Sunnyass didnt bother to read the whole thread, This is the problem with dredging up old threads instead of making new ones, He was saying the F3Sv dosent play games particularly well, not the V1s.

 

lol sunnyass = more noob than I. me thinks I'm getting an ASUS if this dell ain't up to my expectations

so happy you can see my bunny , made my day