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    ASUS G51Vx - Info and Upgrades?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Zayne, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. Rezigrene

    Rezigrene Notebook Evangelist

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    Out of curiosity I did another FurMark test to make sure what my max temps were.

    I hit 95C for a few seconds, then the fans kicked on to high and wobbled between 94C and 95C.

    But that was in FurMark with 8xMSAA AND post processing enabled. Without it I run a few degrees cooler.

    In game I max at 87C; at least in Far Cry 2 and L4D.

    Edit: By the way those temps are still down from my first G51 that hit 102C in FarCry without overclocking.

    Edit again: At factory shipped clocks the max on FurMark is 87C, at which point the fans kick in and the temperature drops to 86C and tries to get to 85C (bounces).
     
  2. autobahnen

    autobahnen Notebook Enthusiast

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    Haha, I must say I love the tone of your posts, as well as your analogies. Always a joy to read, even when they are insulting.
     
  3. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah. My C6 can easily hold 6k. My point is that anything I do unattended will remind me of autobahnen's mistake. I would never do something or even type something bad about my precious Chevy.

    Yeah, nothing personal against you, autobahnen. I just find telling it how it is the most effective and down to earth way of getting people to know what's going on. And it kind of explains why I have over a page of infractions too, haha. Being a comedian doesn't exactly help me either.
     
  4. Rezigrene

    Rezigrene Notebook Evangelist

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    Eh, Corvettes.

    I'm more of a fan of old muscle. The new Camaros, Challengers, and Mustangs though... phew. Those are nice.

    Muscle> nitrous injected rice crap.
     
  5. autobahnen

    autobahnen Notebook Enthusiast

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    No offense taken. I see your posts on here all the time, so I have a good idea about what your style is like. It was an earnest compliment.
     
  6. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Thank you, sir.
     
  7. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    This is odd.

    78F ambient, CPU underclocked/undervolted to 2.79 @ 1.163V

    Ten minutes at native resolution.
    I maxed out at 95C for... ten seconds before the fan kicks in, whereupon I stablized at 93C for the majority of the trial.

    Ten minutes at native resolution with 8x AA
    Maxed at 89C. Stayed at 87 for a couple of minutes, jumped to 88. Stayed at 88 for a couple of minutes, then I started to get jumps and dips between 88 and 89. By the way the trend was looking I was probably going to stabilize at 90.


    Weird, though. 8x AA was cooler than no AA.
     
  8. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    That's because you're not using xtreme burning mode. I find it ironic since you personally dub your G51 the "Forge Mod Extreme" and you don't stress it to the extreme, haha.
     
  9. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    But, other than the AA, the trials were the exact same.

    So AA will run cooler without burning mode on?

    Well, as you put it, I should be looking for longevity and and cooler temperatures, not uber performance.

    And the Extreme part is to stroke my ego. Don't judge me.
     
  10. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Based on your results, I guess I can say yes. I've never used Furmark with xtreme burning mode unchecked before so I'm not completely sure.
     
  11. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    autobahnen Notebook Enthusiast

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    @Forge

    Your results seem consistent with mine.

    I tried doing a Furmark test again (actually watching this time, haha) and I found similar results. I did the 8x AA with Xtreme Burning mode and I hovered in the low 90s before terminating the program. It looked like it would have risen a few more degrees had I left it on longer, but it doesn't change the fact that the temperatures with AA and Xtreme Burning mode are much lower than the 100-102C temps I got with those two settings turned off.
     
  13. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    This is fascinating. Next week after I install my final additions to my cooling overhaul, I'll perform a Furmark test identical to the settings you two gentlemen used.

    Forge, I finally drilled holes into the backpanel I received. My results were actually counterintuitive to my initial hypothesis. Drilling holes yielded negligable change in temperature. I believe the reason for this is that the additional holes reduces CFM to the original holes that the brilliant engineers at Clevo have made. Perhaps if I used an active cooler rather than the passive one that I use, I would see some benefit. However, because I modded my machine to be completely self reliant on it's own cooling with my Edova Xpad being the only supplement, I can say that this part of the cooling overhaul is bust.
     
  14. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Anything in particular that's fascinating? Other than the fact that we can't come close to your cooling hah. Anyway, you said the difference was "negligible" and then says airflow to the original holes was (most liekly) decreased. Do you mean you didn't notice any difference, or that there was a negative impact?


    Anyway an active cooler never hurts. You might not "need" it, but it can only help.


    Speaking of heat-reducing mods, I'm awaiting that Japanese tape and these copper blocks. Only ordered one pack, so I could experiment.

    I poked around the internet a while, and found myself back at Petra's. I looked at these Enzotechs, and I'm wondering if those pins will provide better cooling. They're probably too tall (9mm), but still.
     
  15. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    What I found fascinating was that you were reporting higher temperatures with AA off as opposed to AA on.

    As for the holes I drilled, The difference was less than 1*C on the cooler side. With this in mind, I swapped back to my original panel and kept my drilled spare panel for SHTF situations.
     
  16. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Your GTX 280m runs cooler than my underclocked GTX 260m. I will fear a SHTF moment from you.

    Also, any insight on the copper blocks in my previous post?
     
  17. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Those are the same ones I picked up and from the same guy too. They usually come in within two days since we both live in the same shipping zone as him.
     
  18. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Have to wait for the weekend to finish in order to get mine, it looks like.

    What about the Petra's Enzotechs?
     
  19. Soviet Sunrise

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    They are both forged from 99% pure C110 ETP copper. Both are pretty much the same thing but with less copper, 1mm taller, and different brand thermal tape.
     
  20. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    So pins versus grooves (?) shouldn't affect anything then.
     
  21. Soviet Sunrise

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    Pins have less surface area and mass compared to the fins. I think the only setup where pins would be more beneficial is if there was a tornado inside of the case.
     
  22. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Or a good notebook cooler. Eh. I'll just stick with the thermaltakes and some of the 4mm-tall ones.

    Those Chinese ones are gonna take a long time.
     
  23. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    I also have the Chinese 4mm copper ones you posted in the link. They are actually 5mm. Also, they will probably be in your mailbox by the middle of next week.
     
  24. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Hopefully. I noticed on my heatpipe I have these foam cushions on two parts, which I presume are meant to cusion the bottom panel. I'm planning on removing them, since they probably don't have the heat dispersion of a copper heatsink. (Yes, I'm joking)

    What did you use to cleanse the stock thermal tape from the bottom of the blocks?
     
  25. Soviet Sunrise

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    The cushions on the panel are indeed meant as a cushion to keep the ceiling of the backpanel from touching the heatpipes. My M570TU had a buttload of those cushions placed everywhere on my CPU and GPU heatsink. I ripped them all off because the copper blocks would act as the replacement cushion.

    The Thermaltake heatsinks already have Sekisui #5760 thermal tape applied on them. You can use them if you want, but I ripped them off so I can lap each block perfectly flat and smooth on high grit sandpaper. I used my fingernails and a little bit of citrus cleaner to break down the thermal tape and wipe it off. You can also use the white bottle Arcticlean to break down the tape.

    The Chinese heatsinks had some really shoddy thermal tape on. You can just use your fingernails and the face of your thumb to rub it off.
     
  26. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    I'd better get some sandpaper, too.

    Now the only thing is the waiting.
     
  27. Rezigrene

    Rezigrene Notebook Evangelist

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    You know what, my temperatures were higher with no MSAA than they were with MSAA, too. I thought it was just me.
     
  28. xcskiier23

    xcskiier23 Notebook Consultant

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    Forge,
    What exactly are you going to do with those heatsinks? are you going to run them on the memory or something? Doesn't that meant you have to cut the copper in order to do that? Looks like an interesting project!
     
  29. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    I basically just stick them to strategic points on the heat system. Probably focusing on the CPU and GPU area.
     
  30. xcskiier23

    xcskiier23 Notebook Consultant

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    OHHHH, lol i thought you were doing someting crazy!!! Perhaps if you see a noticeable decrease in temps, i will follow your path
     
  31. Zayne

    Zayne Notebook Geek

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    Wow, talk about a thread hijack, heh.
     
  32. xcskiier23

    xcskiier23 Notebook Consultant

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    Technically, putting heatsinks on IS a upgrade...
     
  33. Zayne

    Zayne Notebook Geek

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    Indeed it is, but still unrelated to my original post if you bothered to read it =D.
     
  34. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    The thread's been derailed since like page two.
     
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