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    ASUS N71JQ TY005X Linux, Fan issue, overclocking

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Noitbuek, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. Noitbuek

    Noitbuek Newbie

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    Hello,

    Since my original post got somewhat lost in a lenghty discussion inside N71JQ lounge, I decided to post it in a separate thread. :)
    Here are the questions I'd like to ask regarding N71JQ(TY005X in particular):
    1. Has the fan issue been resolved?
    2. The Core i7 720QM is supposed to be running at 2.8GHz in overclocked mode - is it possible to overclock it to highest turbo mode in BIOS or by other means on this laptop? So far I have only ready about some weird 3%,4%,5% modes inside BIOS.
    3. Has anyone Linux installed on N71JQ?
    4. Even if not, would someone (hopefully someone with TY005X version) be so kind and boot from a fresh Ubuntu installation CD (which is safe and doesn't touch installed system, the CD can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download - 64bit version)
    open up a terminal and run the following commands:
    Code:
    cd Desktop
    sudo lspci -vvv > pci_devices.txt
    sudo lsusb -vvv > usb_devices.txt
    then copy the resulting text files to a USB stick (just like on windows)
    In case lspci and lsusb isn't present on a system, typing the following in the terminal should install them:
    Code:
    apt-get install pciutils
    apt-get install usbutils
    Gathered information is needed in order to determine to which extent Linux is supported on N71JQ and which peripherals are supported by Linux kernel or by other means.
    It would be very very helpful for me, since i don't even plan to bother with win7 :)

    thanks!
     
  2. Turbogear

    Turbogear Notebook Deity

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    Hello Noitbuek,

    Well as far as I know the issue with the fan is not resolved.
    It is reported to ASUS and they are looking into it and hopefully we will get a fix for it soon.

    Concerning the overclocking, the 2.8GHz is the frequency when only one single core is running.
    When all the four cores are running the frquency officially should be 1.6GHz for each core, but I have seen it is around 1.7GHz on N71JQ.

    Now when this ASUS EASY OVER-CLOCK feature found only in the latest bios v205 is set to Turbo 5%, the maximum frequency when all the core are in use jumps to around 1.82GHz. So far I did not measure the frequency of a single core when Turbo 5% is enabled. I have no application which can stress a single core. :(

    I have Linux on my N71JQ-A1, but it is under VMware.
    I have downloaded the Ubuntu CD you linked above.
    Today at night when I get some time, I will try to find the information you are looking for. :)
     
  3. Noitbuek

    Noitbuek Newbie

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    Hi Turbogear,

    thanks for your kind response and for your effort :)
    I will do some survey based on that information and will post my findings here so that Linux people can either decide to buy this laptop or whether to install Linux on it.
     
  4. Turbogear

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    You are welcome.

    I just did a reboot of my system becuase of some windows updates and I thought I check the PCI and USB devices for you also. :D

    Here are the two files from Ubuntu.
    Unfortunately, I am out of spare CDs in the office. So I used an old copy of Ubuntu 7.04 to do the scanning for you. :)

    I don't know if the newer version will have some difference.
     
  5. Noitbuek

    Noitbuek Newbie

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    Thanks Turbogear!
    I will study the results and post my findings :)
    7.04 should be ok.
     
  6. Turbogear

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    You are welcome. :)

    If you need any further help just let me know. :)

    Your findings with respect to Linux compatibility would be also interesting for me.
     
  7. Noitbuek

    Noitbuek Newbie

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    Unfortunately, it seems the old kernel (2.6.20) can't see the new intel chipset :( So a 10.4 Ubuntu CD is necessary in order to determine all components. In case you can find a spare CD and it won't bother you, it would be awesome if you did it again. Of course it doesn't hurry at all :)
    So far I've been able to determine 2 components:
    Bluetooth:
    ID 0b05:1788
    ASUSTek Computer,
    Inc. Broadcom Corp,
    BT-270
    Webcam:
    ID 13d3:5122
    IMC Networks
    USB2.0 UVC 2M WebCam
     
  8. Turbogear

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    No problem, I will do it again with new version of Ubuntu. :)
     
  9. Turbogear

    Turbogear Notebook Deity

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    @ Noitbuek

    I did the scan again with the latest version of Ubuntu.

    I have updated the links for the USB and PCI device scan in post #4 above.

    You can download the new files from there. :)
     
  10. Noitbuek

    Noitbuek Newbie

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    Thanks a lot Turbogear!
    The information is now present, i will post my findings as soon as i get to it, but it seems that most stuff should work. Did the Ubuntu 10.4 boot ok?
     
  11. Turbogear

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    You are welcome.
    What you linked above and what I downloaded was Ubuntu 9.10.

    Yes, it booted.
    I did not look exactly, but there were some error messages appearing before it went to the Desktop.
     
  12. Noitbuek

    Noitbuek Newbie

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    I will continuously update this post:

    Core i7:
    support for Turbo & friends in the kernel
    Very interesting thread regarding 720QM Turbo mode on Linux

    VGA compatible controller:
    ATI Technologies Inc Device 68c0
    Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1c22
    R800
    1002:68c0
    Very good thread @ noteookreview.net wrt drivers

    Audio device:
    Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
    Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 13e3
    ATI Technologies Inc Device aa60
    Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device aa60
    Both ALSA HDA Intel driver
    snd-hda-intel module

    USB 3.0
    USB Controller: NEC Corporation Device 0194 (rev 03)
    Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1019
    Should work via xhci_hcd driver (xhci module)

    Bluetooth:
    ID 0b05:1788
    ASUSTek Computer,
    Inc. Broadcom Corp,
    BT-270
    Reported to work out-of-the-box on other laptops

    Wireless/WiFi
    AzureWave AR5B95
    AW-NE785H
    168C:002B
    Seems to work with ath9k madwifi drivers

    Ethernet controller
    Attansic Technology Corp. Device 1063 (rev c0)
    Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1820
    Should work either via atl1c driver/module or driver can be downloaded at http://partner.atheros.com/Drivers.aspx
    Package is called AR81Family-Linux-v1.0.1.9.tar.gz

    Webcam:
    ID 13d3:5122
    IMC Networks
    USB2.0 UVC 2M WebCam
    It's not possible to find this cam yet, but similar ones seem to be supported by
    http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
     
  13. Turbogear

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    Just to let you know.
    The WIFI card in my notebook is not the original one from ASUS.

    The original was from AzureWave AR5B95.

    I have installed myself Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200.
     
  14. Noitbuek

    Noitbuek Newbie

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    Ah that's kind of bad news. I'm unable to find any direct reference wrt open source drivers (it seems people are using madwifi, but also ndiswrapper, which is a wrapper for binary drivers). If I may ask, what was the reason for swap?

    Also, there seems to be some confusion wrt card identification.
    Quoting stevedogg:
    I will search a bit in latest madwifi code, let's see what i can find...

    EDIT: Found one post claiming that 5B95 is working.
     
  15. Urlee

    Urlee Notebook Consultant

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    I want so bad to order the N71Jq BUT-------should I if it has that fan problem?

    How does the N61Jq compare to where maybe I would be better off ordering that one? Has it been around longer to where the bugs are fixed?

    Either way, I have to order a USB Modem to be able to get on the Internet cause I am on dialup and was told I would be able to that way?

    Thanks,
    Urlee
     
  16. Noitbuek

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    I was wondering whether the fan issue is present under Linux too. Perhaps it would be worth a try to boot a Linux CD (such as Ubuntu 10.4) and simulate similar conditions/try to reproduce the problem.
     
  17. Jovani

    Jovani Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey all, im resurrecting this thread. I just installed linux on my N71JQ (on one of the drives).
    I installed Ubuntu 10.10 and the installation went flawlessly. I've noted things that don't work out of the box :
    The integrated MIC does not work.
    The dual monitor setup needed some xorg.conf manual manipulation and xrandr usage. I am using ATI's latest proprietary drivers.

    Other than that, everything seems to be running smoothly. The system boots up in 20 seconds and is really snappy.

    No fan issue in ubuntu 10.10