ASUS Z70VA Screen Question

I'm thinking of buying one of these and i'm wondering how bright the screen is? Are there any reviews of this posted?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=25976

Here's the review posted by coriolis...although he doesn't specify much about the screen.
I'm sure he could shed some light if you ask him
:asus:

 

Its pretty Bright...

Hmmm

z70va turned on max in pitch dark room


Z70va lid closed with router LEDs on


z70va lid open with LCD on, showing brightness


z70va lid halfway closed to show lighting on FFXI manual


Sorry for the blurry pics, its almost 1am and I came back from school and work...so tired

 

That first picture almost hurts my eyes...

 

Yea, hehe...

 

Ohhhh so sweeeet!!!! I think this is my next laptop! Do you keep it in 1680 x 1280? All the notebooks at best buy seem to have a 1280x800 res, just curious if you find 1680x1280 to be too small for every day use on a 15.4 inch screen.

 

It will be blurry if you run at other than native resolution. As an alternative, bump up the DPI.

 

I think the WSXGA+ (1680x1050) resolution on my Z70va is perfect for a notebook. I'm a writer, so readability in long documents is of premium importance to me.

In my opinion...
WXGA (1440x900) is too big; not enough screen "real estate"
WUXGA (1920x1200) is too small; major eye squint/strain factor

I've also found it a lot harder to view glossy notebook screens over long time periods. The Z70va's screen is beautiful matte black.

:asus:

 

Not to bring anyone down... but to buy the system based on those pictures above really isn't doing your homework and any camera can make any screen look like that....... I'm not saying it's not bright... it's a good screen.

The screen on the Z70v and va is the same screen used last year on the W1n. Look for reviews of that model and you'll see what people say about that screen for what it is.... it's a the best matte type display you're going to find.

 

It's a great screen, yea.

I love the WXSGA, I came from a sub 1000 resolution monitor and first it blew my mind, but now its so comfortable. going back to that resolution scared me!

 

I know what you mean... after using this SXGA+ on my M6Ne, I can't even go back to 1024x768 without thinking "man is everything huge, or is it just me? "

:asus:

 

It is one of the brightest laptop screens i ever had def brighter than the W2 or W3V or sony for that matter.

 

It is pretty bright, but remember guys, as Justin mentioned, it is not exact, as the camera's F-stop, lighting conditions, auto-lighting, auto-balancing, etc.

 

I can make a pitch black room look like bright if I needed to....... the Z70v/va certainly has a good screen and it's up there with the W3/W2 ..... and is actually the screen that was used on the W1...... it's a bright screen for sure and you're not going to get anything better in another brand......... I'm just saying don't buy it based on those pictures becuase if this was a bad screen, you're basing your choice off of something someone could fake......

 

I know this is an ASUS forum, but let's not get carried away. I brought in my 17" Fujitsu n6010 to my local retailer (Canadasys) to compare it side by side. I know this is an apples to oranges comparison since the z70va is not a true DTR, but I just wanted to see the difference.

I thought that the ASUS was very, very good but not quite up to the level of the CrystalView on my Fuji. Pure white on the ASUS looks like a very light shade of grey and colours are not as saturated.

Of course, this will only matter to you if you care. For what it's worth, I personally think that the screen on the z70va is certainly not the best in the world, but it's more than good enough - well above average. So if you're worried about a dim screen, don't. But it's not a CrystalView or Xbrite - it's not supposed to be.

 

The screen of the Z70va is the best 15.4" LCD available. Comparing it to the 17" Fujitsu CrystalBright is absurd and pointless. Prop the 17" WSXGA+ Asus W2V next to the 17" CrystalBright for a comparison that makes sense.

 

Check out the bottom of my review, there's some pics of the screen brightness that may or may not help you. To the best of my ability, they are properly exposed, so they should give you a good idea...

http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/~mitc5502/z70vreview/z70vreview.htm

 

"I know this is an apples to oranges comparison since the z70va is not a true DTR, but I just wanted to see the difference."

Jack, perhaps it also makes sense to actually read posts before replying to them. I was simply trying to give a point of reference. BTW, the 15.4" CrystalView screen on the n3500 series is slightly brighter than the 17" n6000 series.

Again, I know that this is an ASUS forum, but, please, let's not engage in hyperbole. Yes, the z70va has an awesome screen. Yes, I know that the z70va is WSXGA+ compared to WXGA on the n3500. Yes, I know that I sound like a Fujitsu fan (true, and I'm also an ASUS fan). But if you're asking about screen brightness - which is what this thread is about (see the first message by skeptix) - it's very good but not the best. Peace.

 

Usually Glossy screens are brighter because they have increased backlighting and a better colour contrast AT THE EXPENSE of a higher resolution.

So you can have one but at times not the other.

I can safely say the z70va has one of the best Matte screens around, and of course, Fujitsu/LG/Samsung have the best Glossy screens around

 

Agreed with Coriolis.

It's a shame more manufacturers don't offer high-res glossy type screens.

HP offers a BrightView glossy WSXGA+ 17" on its zd8000 series. That is an awesome screen, a friend of mine has one.

 

IBM/Lenovo also has its FlexView screens which is basically a glossy screen without the glare "window" but with the enchanced backlighting and extra colour contrast

 

Okay, I'll try a simpler approach for you, Stimpy. You rendered your argument useless by confessing to the improper comparison right before you proceeded to make the improper comparison. Everything you've written after that, including your latest response, illustrates that you still don't get it.

Enjoy your Fujitsu!!

 

I can see that this going nowhere, so I won't make it any worse than it already is. Jack, you win. You've shown here by your own posts that you're much more intelligent, reasonable and knowledgeable than I am.

Fact: skeptix asked how bright the screen of the z70va was
Fact: some people said that it was the best and brightest screen out there
Fact: it is absolutely not the brightest screen, matte or glossy, 15.4" or 17"
Fact: I pointed this out by using by using a point of reference, in this case my own Fuji
Fact: I said that while not quite as good, it's more than good enough
Fact: I somehow hurt your feelings when I said that the ASUS is not the best. Well, actually, I don't know if this is fact or not, but this is the only explanation I have for your attitude problem
Fact: I'm not sure which of the above arguements I have rendered useless
Fact: I will enjoy my Fuji, which sits on my desk at home, as well as my z70va. Thanks.

 

It's just so easy to tweak a fan-boy, isn't it?

C'ya, Stimpy!!

 

Oye oye oye.

Lets just put it as this, both ASUS and Fujitsu makes sweet laptops with great screens.

There,

 

...but ASUS makes better motherboards
:asus:

(...Fujitsu doesn't even make motherboards as far as I know)
LOL

 

But, it's still kinda fun to tweak fan-boys and then watch'em get all puffed up.

Okay, okay... I'll leave Stimpy alone. There be lots more fan-boys to tease!!

Nitey-nite, gang!!

 

IMO, you were the one being a douche...not him.

But that is just me.

I also don't think the Z70va has the best screen out there...but it is very, very nice. That being said, I'm probably going to buy a Z70va in the next couple weeks.

 

i dunno people... if you're really as obsessed with the screen as you are acting, put your money where your mouth is and buy that screen. The panels are easy to replace. If you like the fujitsu screen, find out what brand it is, go to that website and order it. Check out someone who did just this for the z71v (now he probably has a better screen then all of ya'll): http://z71forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=91


Or you could just take a few minutes of time and calabrate your screen to have the best possible gamma. But seriously, the bickering is really sad. How on earth do you think you're gonna convince someone that his eyes failed him unless you're atleast looking at some solid facts and your face to face comparing the screens together.

 

Well said. :asus:

 

Yes, I think everyone's gone away from the actual question. Aside from the pictures and the "I'm smarter than you" kind of talk. Screw the F-stop and which screen is better than the other. To answer the question, the screen is quite bright, not as bright as some Brightview (or whatever other names there are...) type screens, but it is bright. And yes there are many reviews on the Z70VA and Z70V, they both have the same wonderful screen. Like what ProPortable said, it was used on the W1 model also. There hasn't been a complaint on the screen that I know of.

 

I think the simple answer is "if you dont think the z70va screen is bright and top quality your nuts". Do make sure to look at one before you make a leap. If you have never seen wsxga res on a screen you may be one of the very few that does not agree with its hi-res.

 

...To answer the question, the screen is quite bright, not as bright as some Brightview (or whatever other names there are...) type screens, but it is bright. And yes there are many reviews on the Z70VA and Z70V, they both have the same wonderful screen...


...which is pretty much exactly what I've been saying all along.



The very last thing I'll ever say in this thread is that if Jack hopefully ever learns to read entire posts, he would have seen that I ended up buying the z70va. So if I'm a 'fanboy', what am I a fan of?

 

I think you mistake the definition of "fanboy". Fanboy is a fictional superhero with fan-blades stickingout of his sneakers. In any single leap he can spin his legs to 2800rpm and throw his sneaker like a boomerang at his arch nemesis fartman. Fanboy can levetate or function as a fartman repellant simply by turning his detachable legs. Its an old comic. Volume 1 was "fartman vs. amazing levitating fanboy". Very old school most people would not know.

 

Thanks for the education, Eddie. I had no idea of the true origins of fanboy. Great stuff. HA!!

As for Stimpy, he takes things wwwaaaaayyyyy too personally. I'm bored with him and his two notebooks.

Time for another Boilermaker! Have a great Friday night!!

 

As far as im concerned the Z70VA has he best screen i have seen to date. I work at best buy so i see MANY laptops that i fix or new ones that people buy. And from my experences the glossy ones were nice but were not as sharp, not even the sony's. The brightness is **** good, even next to a 19inch samsung in a very bright store it was just as bright or close to it with the samsung at 100% brightness. Just about all the employees that have seen it are like i want one lol.

 

Z70V/Va owners...do you find that your screen causes eye strain after prolonged usage?

 

Had one such complaint and a return becuase of it. Customer actually claimed it caused headaches after prolonged use.

 

Interesting...

has anyone tried these settings on their Z70V/Va? I've been using them on my M6Ne for about a week now... and I think they're great.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=25959

 

No headaches here.

I've actually had less neck pains because my old monitor used to be so big it would need to be placed at a 45 degree angle and that was killer for my neck

About the screen thing - Ati tray tools always locks up the computer..

 

Maybe is not the moment and the place but coriolis said:

"I can safely say the z70va has one of the best Matte screens around, and of course, Fujitsu/LG/Samsung have the best Glossy screens around"

and none of you seems to disagree...

My question is:
ASUS Z70's screen or LG LW60's screen, knowing that LG has a 1200 x 800 resolution?

Is the affirmation that LG is better than ASUS in screens still correct if we compare these two?

Does the resolution make the difference?

:asus:

:base: LG

 

The LG is a glossy, so its hard to compare two different screens.

 

And ...


But ...

 

lol, everyones opinion is different, especially towards glossy/matte

LG has great screens, and If i wanted a glossy, I'll go for the LG or Fujitsu.

If I wanted matte, i'd look to IBM/Lenovo or ASUS

 

LG SHOULD have a better screen... matte or glossy...considering that LG manufactures their own LCDs... whereas ASUS doesn't.

 

What is the viewing angle like on the Asus z70Va screen? Doesnt mention it on this site's review. I work on a lot of group projects with people huddled around the computer so this is important to me.

 

Very cool signature, Coriolis!!!

A design worthy of the great Asus Z70va!

 

LOL! My first attempt and it took me a few hours...

I need to get a few font packs but I don't know where...

 

Based on my own research on 15.4" notebooks, I have found that several factors affect how I perceive the quality of a screen:

1. Brightness
2. Ability to resolve details
3. Colour balance
4. Matte or Glossy
5. Viewpoint

1. Brightness is defined in candela per square meter (cd/m^2), or nits. The higher the number, the brighter it is. For example, Dell's 15.4" UltraSharp is 185nits. Thinkpad's 15.4" is 200 or 300 (maxbrite) nits. Does anyone out there have the specs on the Z70Va's, LG's, and the Fujitsu screens (I think Fujitsu's glossy screen is 300nits, but not totally sure about that)? This information will settle a large part of the argument here.

2. Ability to resolve detail is directly related to resolution. The higher the resolution, the more detail can be displayed over the area of the 15.4" screen. Therefore, it is only natural to conclude that 1200x800 res is not as sharp as 1680x1050 res. Having said that though, not everyone's eyes are as good as the young folks in this forum, so some may actually prefer the lower res screen for more a comfortable viewing. This factor is a preference thing.

3. Colour balance is quite important if you intend to do some graphics work. Because I am into photography, I pay attention to how true the colours are to real life objects. For example, I want the red from the picture I just took of an apple to be as true to the real life object as possible. In the "as-shipped" form, many screens are not perfectly calibrated. This factor is also a preference thing, since some people like the colours more vibrant then they truly are.

4. This is truly a personal preference and has been talked about all over this forum. I personally prefer matte. Comparing between matte and glossy screens are pointless.

5. Depending on your viewing angle, the look of the screen will change. Some screens have a small viewing angle, and will dim drastically as you go off-axis. Be mindful of this phenomenon when comparison shopping.

I hope this has shed some light on the topic. I don't pretend that I know everything about LCD screens...I am learning new stuff everyday and is fascinated by the information I uncover on this topic. If someone else has more to add, please do so!

BTW, nice sig coriolis...

 

Great post, you should include it in the LCD guide - it should help some people!

And Fujitsu's are indeed 300 nits, while the z70va should be 200nits, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was 250. LG is 200 nits as well I believe..