ASUS quality: Below expectations?

hi,

this:
"A 100% plastic notebook will be thincker and remain cooler outside as well"
is Asus problem. They have too small design sometime hot and F3 cracks: See here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=212031
You don´t need a degree in mechanics, everyone
can watch the temperatures with some programs and compare it to other
modells.
A 2 year warranty is normal in EU, and you will need it, especially with some brands. But some brand, like Dell, are open (per email, hotline) for the wishes of their customers and some, like Asus, are less.
I´m not a retailer, so my Opinion is not orientated on selling. But has grown from surveing forums and marketreviews.

Thanks

 

there is absolutely no reason for a user to watch the temps on his brand new notebook other then paranoyia. This forum is clogged by users that think their notebooks are overheating. asus has never made a notebook that overheated out of the box in the usa in the last 4 years. That is a fact.

 

Hi Agoothelf, you may be right on this , but who cares if it breaks in 2 years?

I personally think if my laptop last more than 9 months , it is fine.

Think like htis way, in 2 years , all current latests get outdated , and so it is silly to use a computer more than a couple of years.

And it may be a normal case to have 2 year warranty in EU ,but in US or ASIA , we dont get such a long warranty for free, so it is something specail for many many people who care about long term warranty(I personally never needed more than a year of warranty).

That's all, I personally like HP and I am not a fan of ASUS,but that is the only one brand in Asia to make a 14.1 laptop with NV8600GT.........so I am interested in that particular model , but at the same time , I am afraid to get it because my friend's one is always extremely hot about 90 C while my HP or Toshiba never gets hotter than 60 C.............but my HP has much weaker GPU compared to the ASUS and my Toshiba does not even have discrete graphics, so I dont know if it is normal or even fair comparison.

Any way, considering of service,quality control and a laptop as a whole not only the GPU power, I think my HP(DV2761TX) is a better computer than my freind's ASUS F8SV.

That said , the company is interesting and I will always check theirs out.

And I hope they do all fine.

 

Many laptops last more than 2 years.

Having a laptop "last" less than 9 months is unacceptable and would be unacceptable to almost everyone. That's less than the 12 months standard warranty

 

I agree, almost have 3 years with mine everything works fine so far.

 

Yeah, many people do care for their laptops lasting more than 9 months. After all, we're talking usually a 1000USD+ piece of technology... not all of us afford to spend so much on a new computer every half year or so.

 

You gave some very good info, although you don't back yourself up with consistent data. You have stated a series of hypothesis with little proves. I would agree that some people come here just to complain and solve problems.
But on the other hand how many laptops are sold in the world? how many have been repaired? How about the other brands? It seems you are located in NL, but here in the States I think Asus is still a big time underdog. It is true that they are moving toward the mass-market and pushing a lot some of their laptops. But for example Consumer Reports, a know US magazine, backs-up their claims with data. I think here we talking a lot based on a case-by-case.

So, what do you base your claims on?

What I read from the UK users horrifies me. I used to live in Italy but never had experience with Asus Italy though.
I also agree very much on the fact that the quality of electronic products, but also ALL the products has gone down the drain. A perfect example is Marshall guitar amps. Their 60/70's models are still up and going while the new ones fall apart after a short time. I think the reason is because of the cheap labor and mass-production, and try to squeeze every possible cent out of every product. It makes me sick.

 

Yeah, my hypotheses on the causes of the problems are pretty much just that: hypotheses without hard data to back them on. And all we have is case by case, we don't have a database on the ASUS problems... that's on ASUS' servers. So we have to work with what little we have.

I don't follow this:

or is it just a request for data?

Maybe Consumer Reports backs up their claims with data. Maybe they get money out of their reports Maybe that's their main job. Me, I'm just a guy who procrastinates on a forum. I don't really understand what you were expecting.

By the way, the message you are quoting is out of date. I have updated and expanded it, here is the up to date version:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=284738