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    An Irish customer's experience with Asus G1S RMA

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Aaron M, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. Aaron M

    Aaron M Newbie

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    After reading lots of threads on these forums regarding faults experienced with Asus G1S machines (and the associated RMA procedures), I thought it prudent to share my own experience with the rest of the community on this matter.

    *I apologise in advance for the relative longevity of the post, but I'm sure fellow posters can respect the need to be thorough when describing these procedures, if only to provide a further rare European perspective on the Asus RMA procedure.*

    I live in the Republic of Ireland. I purchased an Asus G1S-A1 machine in June 2007 from an online retailer in the United Kingdom (UK). The machine worked flawlessly for almost a year and a half. No problems, and I must say I was very impressed with its performance and style.

    Onto the main points regarding the RMA procedure itself:


    • In early November, the display on the machine stopped working. After doing some research, it became obvious that the GPU was faulty (I'm sure everyone here is aware of the poor fault tolerance issues surrounding the nVidia 8600m GT cards), a suspicion further confirmed when I viewed the corrupted output on an external LCD monitor. Due to prior commitments, I was unable to attempt an RMA for the next week, upon which the laptop miraculously returned to working order, only for the display to stop working after a further week of operation, upon which I purchased an external HDD and backed up all my data in preparation for return.​


    • On Thursday, the 4th Dec, I requested an RMA number from Asus online. They replied the following day (Friday) with the RMA. On the following Monday, I received a pre-paid UPS airmail label by email, with instructions for shipping the machine to the UK for service. The destination address was a 3rd party company named Anovo UK, who are obviously contracted to perform servicing and repair requests on behalf of Asus.​


    • I contacted UPS the next day (Tuesday) and within 2 hours they had come and collected the packaged G1S for delivery to Anovo UK (I merely attached the printed label Asus had sent me by email and noted the RMA number and return address on the outside of the box). Needless to say, I was highly impressed with the prompt service from UPS.​


    • The following Friday, the 19th Dec, the laptop was delivered to my door exactly 2 weeks after first contacting Asus with a small note attached inside that simply read 'no display .... replaced mainboard .... tested and checked'. Nothing else, apart from the machine itself, was included (I had not sent anything else, apart from the machine itself). I must admit, I was not entirely happy about the packaging used to return the laptop, which was basically sealed into the middle of a large box using binding cellophane and protected with 2 sponge cushions - a simple solution, to be sure, but not one that lends itself very well to reuse, particularly if I ever need to return the laptop for another service/repair.​

    The laptop itself was in fine condition, though I did notice that the ExpressCard was loose on the laptop (in fact, it had fallen out during transit) and subsequently required several tries to get seated properly. I have read several people also having issues with their ExpressCards, so it appears to be an indirect result of having to replace the mainboard on the G1S due to the faulty graphics card. No big deal.

    Finally, onto the juicy bits that fellow G1S owners want to hear about:


    • Yes, they replaced the G1S mainboard with a G1Sn mainboard including the updated nVidia 9500m GS 512MB card. However, they did NOT notify me that they had replaced the mainboard with a different model (and indeed, they had not notified me about ANYTHING to do with the repair procedure - the laptop had simply shown up on my doorstep from the repair center). I had my suspicions of course, especially given the fact that the machine had no graphics driver installed save for the basic 'VGA Adapter' driver that comes with Vista. I had to download Astra32 to confirm the mobo had been replaced with the G1Sn. ​

    Now I won't lie, this was good news as far as I was concerned. The last thing I needed was another 8600m GT that would fail as soon as my warranty was finished next June. The kicker though, is that they did not include an updated recovery disk or driver disk for the new model mobo. They had installed a copy of 32-bit Vista Home Premium with accompanying Asus bloatware (a quite substantial amount of it, actually). Sure enough, I went to reformat my machine with a fresh install of Vista from my original G1S recovery disk, and there was an error. The recovery disk won't work with the new model mobo, and my machine now gives me a 'BOOTMGR is missing' message making it impossible for me to boot into the version of Vista they had installed on the machine. Most annoying!

    *I'm sure fellow laptop owners can appreciate the need to know that you have a legit, working copy of Windows Vista that can get you out of trouble should your laptop decide to stop working 6 months down the line.*

    As it stands, I intend to contact the Asus UK Helpline tomorrow (they don't work at weekends) and attempt to get a new recovery disk from them. Failing that, I don't see much option but to buy a copy of Windows Vista off the shelf - I could install the copy of XP that I have perhaps, but I know the G1S (or should I say G1Sn!) is not really designed for that OS. The only saving grace is that I do not need the laptop urgently at this point in time.

    Phew! That was a long post, thanks for reading (assuming someone did!). Perhaps other Asus G1S owners in the same boat as myself could reply and let me know if they received updated recovery disks for their replaced mobos. It appears some did and others didn't (some got driver disks and others didn't).
     
  2. NAS Ghost

    NAS Ghost Notebook Deity

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    Thanks for the info as I am also currently RMAing my G1S-B1. I truly do hope it is possible to get an updated set of recovery disks as I need this laptop for school. Good luck to you though and I hope the outcome is as you expect it to be.

    One more note,

    The 2007 is a typo right?
     
  3. simonov

    simonov Notebook Consultant

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    Why would it be a typo? that is 1.5 years ago...
    G1S-A1 came out around januari 2007 I think.

    ANyway: good post, and very intresting!
     
  4. Aaron M

    Aaron M Newbie

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    No I did purchase the machine in June 2007. It came with a standard Asus 2 year (24 month) warranty.
     
  5. ALLurGroceries

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    You should be able to get the G1Sn recovery disc from them. This isn't the first time I've heard of that exact issue with them forgetting to send the new recovery disc with replaced mobo. If you run into a dead end with that, you can use a friend's RETAIL copy of vista premium/ultimate to do a clean install. Vista will accept your OEM license unlike XP which needed the same installation media, vista is different thankfully. Just an idea... best of luck
     
  6. Aaron M

    Aaron M Newbie

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    I phoned the Asus UK helpline this afternoon and the operator agreed to send me a recovery disk for the updated motherboard. She gave me her email address and said once I send her the details (including the machines serial number and the RMA number of the repair) that she would send me the disk. So things are looking good.
     
  7. punjabimunda

    punjabimunda Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for people who share their experiences online!
    This greatly helped me with my rma experience today, i am studying overseas in Ireland.
    I didn't even know the "limited" warranty would cover anything, especially after 2 years!
     
  8. DevilsChariot

    DevilsChariot Newbie

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    I just got my Asus Gs1 laptop back from Asus RMA and they replaced it with the same defective nvdia 8600gt video card motherboard configuration that had failed the first time.

    here is what went down:

    I told them that i just got the laptop back and it it has the same defective card in it that just failed.

    they said is it working now?

    I said yes.

    they said well then its fixed.

    I said the 8600gt gpu idling at 70C with only windows xp and speedfan dignostic software running.

    They said did you try any other diagnostic software

    I said look, this card has failed hundreds if not thousands of time. Apple recalled all thier laptops with the card installed. The are whole websites dedicated to this card being a failure, and you guys are telling me by replacing one defective card with the same defective is a repair.

    they said yes.

    then tehy said the technician replaced the motherboard, bnot the video card.

    I said did you know tha the video card and the motherboard are the same piece? You can't fix one without the other?

    then she put me on hold for about 15 minutes.

    She said they warranty their repairs for 90days.

    I said yeah so fix my computer it has a defective card in it that WILL burn up again.

    She said the technician didnt say the video card was defective, it say he replaced the motherboard.

    I said well tell me this, if the monitors on the laptops exploded in your face, would you replace the monitor with the same model of monitor that had already exploded in my face?

    they said no some item they would replace

    (so what you'll only replace defective parts if its fatal event???!!!)

    I said look, I just want a video card that wont burn up. It can be a different motherboard, it can a refurbished laptop that doesn't have a nvidia 8600 gt. I see online that people in other countries got a good rma from you, so I want to know why I am being shafted? Is it because I am in America? Do I need to go to Britain or Spain to get my warranty honored? What gives.

    They said it been repair - 90 day warranty- it works doesn't it? over and over.

    I said if I call back will I get the same response or will some one else be more helpful.

    They said I can escalate this and have you to talk to a manger.

    I said YES! PLEASE!!!

    Then they walked that back and said a senior technician will contact me, and gave me a case number. and tried to hang up on me.

    I am gonna call back after I write this, see if I can get someone else.

    gpu now at 74c just using firefox.


    I'll keep you updated. I am mad as heck, and I am not gonna take a 8600gt!!!
     
  9. bboy1

    bboy1 Notebook Evangelist

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    I know this thread is heaps old, but during that 1.5 year period, did you use a notebook cooler or undervolt the CPU? Also, did you monitor your temperatures? If so, were they really high before the GPU failed, or were they normal but the GPU failed randomly?

    What about you DevilsChariot?
     
  10. DevilsChariot

    DevilsChariot Newbie

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    I didnt know about the 8600 problem till it died, but it was always so hot you couldnt keep it in your lap. I have one of those cooling tray you set your notebook on, made it bearable.

    I was just playing cod4 and it went up to 105c.