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    Any Asus Notebooks with Dual Link DVI

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Silvr6, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. Silvr6

    Silvr6 Notebook Evangelist

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    Was looking through Nvidia's website regarding the specs on the Geforce 8m gpus and found out that Nvidia does list them as supporting Dual Link DVI. Now my question is, do any of the Asus notebooks with DVI have dual link support, better yet does anyone here have a 30" display they could try it out on. Thanks
     
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    no dual dvi however the ones with vga and dvd/hdmi do support simultaneous output
     
  3. Silvr6

    Silvr6 Notebook Evangelist

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    thats not good to hear, I don't want to have to get a macbook pro just for dual link dvi. Now about the dual monitors, I had a Z84Jp and I coudln't get the dual display to work very well. I could only have either vga or hdmi enabled and use the notebook screen BUT the notebook screen always had to be primary. I couldn't use 2 independant displays through hdmi and vga and having the notebook screen off, so basically can you use the dvi/hdmi and vga on these newer notebooks with 2 monitors as long as the notebook screen is disabled?
     
  4. David

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    Dual link DVI doesn't mean you can connect to 2 monitors. As far as i know, dual link simply means you can transfer more data (larger bandwidth). In other words, single link can transfer 1920x1080 resolution while dual link 2048x1536
    The official spec sheet for the F8Sn series says it has DVI-D and from the looks of it, it appears to be dual-link.
    You can read up on this here.
     
  5. Mr._Kubelwagen

    Mr._Kubelwagen More machine now than man

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    QFT. Dual-link DVI only means a higher bandwidth. As far as I know, there are no laptops which actually have 2 DVI ports.
     
  6. ViciousXUSMC

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    I thought thats why he wanted it, dual link is for those 30" PC monitors that have a 2600x1600ish resolution you cant use one without a dual link dvi. Otherwise there is no actual gain from it.

    If you just want more than one monitor attached that is what accessories are for :p

    http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/home.php

    2 monitors or 3 with these and it works for everything! (including games and stuff that normally wont span across 2 monitors)

    If you want to CLONE your display across multiple monitors, get a laptop with vga & dvi or get a video splitter yet another accessory.

    by the way its the gpu that determines if you have dual link dvi not the notebook, the macbook pro uses the 8600gt 256mb so I would be pretty sure the other 8600gts have it also. My c90 has a 8600gt and the output port is HDMI wich came after DVI I am 99.9% sure that any HDMI except maybe the very first revision of it wich is long gone contains the bandwidth for dual link dvi and all you need is a converter cord.


    If it didnt work they wouldnt make cords for it: http://sewelldirect.com/hdmi-to-dvi-dual-link-cable-10-ft.asp So make that 99.999% sure.


    Here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi HDMI 1.3 is what you need, and thats the current standard so any 8600gt will be fine. I'll even go see if I can find a way to determine if mine is 1.3


    Well I can find a way to test my system but this is just as good: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8600M_techspecs.html offical tech spec for the 8600gt mobile platform says it supports dual link dvi. What that means is that any 8600gt will work. Before anybody asks well you said you have HDMI...

    Well HDMI and DVI are fully compatible back and forth just like I showed with the adapter cable linked above and the main difference is that HDMI has audio and DVI doesnt and so Asus tied the sound into it from the sound card and converted the port into HDMI, a common thing to do for laptops to make it more "all in one" and the cord itself is smaller and easier to work with.

    So your question has been completely and totally answered with technical documentation as backup no hear say or guess work involved.
     
  7. hoppsan

    hoppsan Newbie

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    From Wikipedia:
    Since he's asking if anyone has a 30" screen to try it out on, I think it's safe to assume he knows what Dual-link DVI means. :)

    Anyway, if you're to belive NVIDIA's and ATI's own websites and rather confusing/incomplete specs, the following mobile video cards should support Dual-link DVI (meaning a DVI port that has enough bandwidth capacity to feed those large 30" screens that few of us actually afford):

    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 *1
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT *1
    NVIDIA GeForce 8*00M *2

    From ATI's specs:
    From NVIDIA's specs:
    The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 36** series should also support it (I don't see why not, if the 2600 series did), but the specs on both the 34** and 36** series cards are even more confusing. But it shouldn't matter right now, I've only seen a single asus laptop with a 3470 card in it to begin with.

    I think it's rather rude of both ATI and NVIDIA to not have some sort of standardised specification system (individual for their own products of course, I'm not asking them to co-operate with eachother ^,^). As it is right now they just write down points with features, which kind of sucks for comparing cards and finding things like this out. :p

    Anyway, if the GPU supports Dual-link DVI then the DVI port (if there is one on the laptop) shall be Dual-link. Just as ViciousXUSMC said.
     
  8. red616

    red616 Notebook Consultant

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    If you have a look here:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=147020

    Gophn posts a pic of what to look for re Dual-Link & non-Dual-Link support. I just looked at my Asus F8Sn DVI jack & , according to the pics , it supports Dual Link DVI. That being said there's apparently a difference in what type of Dual Link DVI is supported...DVI-I & DVI-D.

    Not that it would ever apply to me as I'm happy with my 19" external LCD. :)
     
  9. Silvr6

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    Your are correct I know what Dual Link DVI is, my room mate does have a 30" apple studio display I work I could try using, however I havn't narrowed down as to which notebook i'd like to get.

    2nd part of my question not related to dual link.

    Dual monitors. WHen I had my Z84Jp with the 7700 go, it had vga and hdmi. I could NOT use 2 external displays even when the laptops lcd was disabled only let me use clone. I also couldn't use a monitor connected through either vga or hdmi and use it as my primary display, the laptop always had to be the primary display and coudln't be the secondary. No huge deal as I no longer have that laptop.

    BTW just thinking, I belive the new dell 3008 monitor has a scaler in it so it might not look too horrible at other than native resolutions...


    As for the matrox dual and triplehead to go, problem is that your limited to a max of 1360x768x3 which really isn't that high of resolution. Now I know i'm being picking, but the 2 1900x1200 dualhead is a step in the right directions, although in theory you "should" be able to run 2 24" 1900x1200 lcd's through a notebooks with vga and dvi ports....
     
  10. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    I don't know about driving 2 xtrnl monitors at the same time, but after a lot of searching through unintuitive display options I managed to make the external primary monitor both with my nVidia and my ATI computers. This was in WinXP though.
     
  11. red616

    red616 Notebook Consultant

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    It seems to me notebook computers in general are just now starting to catch up with desktop computers even though for years alot of notebook models have been branded as "desktop replacements". The fact that notebooks could not even handle 1g ram until not so long ago was absurd. And why manufactures could not , would not or will not make upgradeable video cards is beyond me. Even if they had to confine upgradeable video cards to high end units ALOT of people would go for them. The cynic might say it's because the manufactures are in the business of selling complete notebooks not notebook upgrades.

    The dual-monitor question is another area where they have just not bothered to make adjustments to what has been available for years in desktops. However things are changing for the better. Maybe in the not to distant future there will be a REAL desktop replacement ! :)
     
  12. ViciousXUSMC

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    My C90S is more powerful and just as capable as my desktop. The only thing it would be lacking is a full fledged sound card that supports 5.1 or 7.1 analog output but thats not a big deal as I always use 2.1 these days anyway.
     
  13. E.B.E.

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    Where notebooks lack mostly is in standards and upgradeability. Granted, it's very difficult to make standards where things are crammed in so tightly together, but I don't think it's really impossible. This same situation (lack of standards) was the case in the desktop world some (many?) years ago. But things changed. Maybe as the laptops become mainstream, rather than desktops, (haven't they already?) things will get standardized, and therefore cheaper and upgradeable, in the laptop world, as well.
     
  14. red616

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    Well you can always get a laptop that runs as fast , or faster , as a desktop depending on cpu. But it's that not being able to upgrade that pales in comparison. I mean upgrade that laptop that's "more powerful and just as capable as my desktop" in a couple years to make it as fast as a generic desktop & you cannot do it. No cpu upgrades , no gpu upgrades & the average DVD writer is half that of desktops to name just a few of many.

    No...sorry. There's no laptop that can take the place of a desktop right now. Of course I can't put my desktop in my briefcase. But as long as the notebook makers sell them without the "desktop replacement" adverts & continue to at least try & catch up on some fronts of "standards" then that's good. But I would not hold my breath waiting for notebooks to do what the OP needs a notebook to do & what desktops have been doing for years.
     
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    Laptops are becoming more popular than desktops, I see things evolving here in the near future. Some good technology is here that just is not on the market yet or affordable that can really set notebooks a good leap forward.

    Display Port as a new display device connection that will allow very small wires to be used and allow daisy chaining of monitors via that 1 connection, there are 2 or 3 threads right now with people asking how to hook up 2 or more monitors to there laptop and this solves that.

    SSD for storage, faster performance, better battery life, less heat. Just need to get storage space increased and price taken down. Still even the standard HDD market is doing great with 500gb drives now for laptops, something not even imaginable just a couple of years ago.

    LED backlight is here and catching on and thats better than the traditional ligthing but soon maybe we will see OLED displays or even CED displays.

    CPU and GPU namometer processes are shrinking constantly allowing more powerfull cpu and gpu units to be placed in a smaller size and thus use less energy and produce less heat.

    Image projectors that are small enough to fit inside a cell phone, I bet we will see this on a laptop within a year from now. Ultimately it could mean something as small as the Asus EEE with its 7" screen but then you can put a 5' screen on a wall when needed.

    Yes the world is definitely evolving in a way thats good for laptops so just gotta sit and wait for the goods. Desktops are always going to be able to be stronger and probably cheaper for common sense reasons, they can use more power, they can handle more heat, and they can use more space/size. However convince is the factor that is making laptops start to win over desktops.
     
  16. red616

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    Well I still can't believe what I got in my notebook , F8SnB1 , & what I paid for it. Stuff that was unimaginable a few years ago is now the standard. So yeah it's getting better.

    I just want it all now ! :)