Applying Arctic Silver 5 on G50

He already voided what warranty he might have had left when he broke the warranty screw on the cpu. I broke myne accidentally and then upgraded to a T9600 so mind as well have lol.

ASUS in some countries like the us and canada is known for not caring about that as long as the problem is not related, say the keyboard goes up theyll usually overlook. Not the same like in japan things we can do here like changing ram more often then not void.

Personally i am already 10% the way through my warranty period, notebooks been perfect and just about anything id expect to go wrong was caused by me anyways. Never had to warranty anything and the cheap stuff usually breaks the day after the warranty lol.

 

I agree with this.

As long as you have already broken the sticker for various reasons, it's fine to do whatever with the CPU, of course.

However the last para conveys an overly simplistic view. If the computer was running fine for 10% of the warranty period, this by no means implies that it will run fine for the 2-year warranty period of ASUS. I imagine in general the probability of faults follows an asymmetrical "U" shape: the first higher portion of the U corresponds to early faults (nearly "DOA" components); then comes a low-probability region in which you are safe from early faults, and the computer leads its "normal" life. Then the probability starts rising slowly as the components start aging. Indeed if you went through a few months without an issue you are now in the lower valley of the "U" but that doesn't mean you are safe from faults due to aging components.

While ASUS may be lenient with broken warranty-void stickers, that is by no means guaranteed (they can always decide not to service your computer due to warranty void sticker broken), and is also subject to change. It's my opinion that unless there is a very strong reason to do so, the warranty sticker should not be broken. And a 2-degree decrease of the temperature does not qualify as a strong reason.

 

EBE, you have one mistake . ClutchX2 has a G50Vt-X5, that mean he has only one year warranty.
Just to point out . Please don't bother.

 

Hmm yeah I didn't notice that. That means he is more likely to stay in the lower portion of the U for the duration of the warranty.

My remarks stand in general though

 

Oh I understand but I have pretty good luck with stuff so after breaking the sticker, after I had already technically voided the warranty with GPU overclocking it was all down hill after that.

I am willing to pay for repair parts, not so much for labor so we will see how well that goes lol. I am hoping it lasts 2 years atleast 3 is the most i ask from it. I figure u save 10 bucks a week for 3 years you have 1500 or so bucks. My view is simplistic as pretty much anything that dies on me i had something todo with its death. Very lucky I guess.

In addition to my statement of how well its been so far note that I throughly thrashed it every day for a month with benchmarks and burn in. While things may still fail for various reasons anything super weak i would expect to have broken, though I may have made something worse.

While I am overclocking the GPU i actually have now lowered the voltage to below what my stock bios was (Exostensa's stock voltage was lower then gts myne was the same as GTS. Undervolting the CPU as well (thought if it goes up its my cpu and I have the stock one). SO hopefully less heat, less voltage will save a couple of the components, but still have a whole motherboard and screen to worry about.

 

I saw huge improvements in the G1S after AS5ing the GPU, but the G50V isn't thermally challenged so you might not see such a big difference.

 

Just one quick check before I reopen my laptop. To get to the GPU heatsink, I need to remove the CPU heatsink first right?

 

Yeah outside of the fact that their attached. You need todo what you did witht he cpu heat sink this time unbolting the gpu end as well. They are attached at the fins. The GPU heatsink might seem stuck there is a way of removing it. Never quite figured it out but mainly the heatsink wont come up while the fins are head down by plastic. So pull across before up?

Dont forget when putting it back together to insert the fins fully before pressing the heat sink back down, you know to prevent smearing the paste.

I pasted both and just had the cpu half folded back while i reattached the gpu part. its up to you one with some talent could apply it mid air.

 

I read what you said, but still don't seem to be able to get the GPU heatsink off. I can't seem to move it to the side or anything, just won't budge.

 

I had this issue at first lol. I was afraid i was going to break something or something. In addition to the paste holding it down the fins really immobilize it.

Pull up as much as you can (not too far use common sense) just to make sure the paste is seperating. Then using the cpu section as a minor amount of leverage and the gpu section as most of the leverage like try to wiggle it. The GPU fins fit into a rectangular block where u see the vent out of the notebook.

Not too ruff but dont be scared.

 

Gah, I really can't seem to budge it at all, can't get a good grip on it either.

 

You did remove the 2 screws right? lol Wish i had taken video all I have is pictures which show nothing.

 

Yup removed the 2 screws.

Where would you put your fingers to pull on it?

 

I would grab the cpu heatpipe and the gpu heat pipe where they meet the fan/fins and try wiggling it out. Keep in mind the fan assembly should be up at an angle as the fan will run into plastic and all.

I had some trouble at first but ive had it out twice since then never had this much trouble lol.

 

The CPU heatpipe isn't connected to the GPU one though. I still can't wiggle it.

 

Did you remove the black rubber or something? The fins were connected in myne by a black peice of rubber on top as you can see in my photos a peice of plastic rests on the bottom of the two as well but is only attached to the cpu side.

If the cpu pipe is 100% off then I would see if u can find something to press through the vent slot on the opposite end of the fins to help, just dont damage the fins you know.

If you look in my photo i removed the entire assembly still joined at the hip. Sucks your not near me id just come over and help lol.

 

Still attached to the rubber. So I should take the thing and pull it so that it kinda 'pushes' the GPU heatsink over?

 

As i originally said id pull up on the heatsink to try and make sure the paste is broken. After that let it back down.

Your trying to remove the fins (which are located under the plastic of the laptop and attached to the cpu section by the rubber.

Note in concept your at the moment only trying to remove the fins at this time, the rest comes with it after that very easily. Yanking on the gpu heatsink pulls at an angle and this wont work.

You want to try and use the cpu section attached by rubber to pull it out evenly and as straight as apossible. The fins are boxed in and will only come out straight once the fins are out the whole thigns out.

Oh and dont give up, i know this must seems frustrating.

 

Ah... How would you get the fins out? They seem to be very wobbly but not sure how to get em out. After applying the paste on the GPU, wouldn't it be very hard not to smudge also?

 

I had no issues putting it back in but you wannt feel it out as you do it. I held the pipe up enough not to touch and then inserted the fins making sure it was all the way in. I think I used the cpu section to give it the final push.

When putting the cpu section in after this you have to push the fins together to get it back to where it needs to be. You may or may not have experienced this when doing the CPU i did.

The official repair manual has the rubber off.... you could do this i dont like the idea. http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj284/davidli919/G50V_Page_04.jpg Its not really needed. They also have it at more of an angle then i did int he picture....

 

Thanks, but I'm still stuck on getting the actual stuff out.

 

I dunno what to tell you, its removable lol. At this point you should get it out just for the fact of redoing the paste from what weve already been doing.

I hate for anyone to give up. Helped a friend once pick out a new mobo to unlock the potential of his cpu and ram and he had a horrible experience his benchmark scores went down until i helped him find the drivers he needed and then everything was better. To this day he still wont screw with a machine again.

Take a break and try again? I originally tried to get the pipe up (before I even had the paste or anything) and it wouldnt go anywhere I was worried about it but got it off when i had the paste.

 

Yeah my GPU sink came of very hard the first time, when I pulled it it make the sound of breaking

 

Agh well, I just can't seem to get it off. Been well over a hour trying just to get this piece off, and really on this seemingly easy thing.

I don't know if I should keep trying to get it off since everything I'm trying to do doesn't take it off. I gotta go and will be back in a little over a hour to try a few more times.


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Yay! I just came back and used my screwdriver as a lever and managed to push it up.

 

Hmm I was just going to suggest a large hammer. Luckily the screwdriver did the job.

 

We call it the "Bathtub Curve" in engineering. For more info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve


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I read somewhere that warming the chip up using Prime95 or 3dmark just before removal softens the paste a little and aids in removal...I've always followed that suggestion.

 

Yeah, whatever, my fault reliability & diagnosis courses are far away in my past (and they were also not in English)

Thanks for the info.

 

hey I was thinking of putting on AS5 on my GPU and CPU too because my temps are like 96 for the GPU and 7X for CPU. So I was wondering how are your temps now since you have put on the AS5? Is it a big difference? XD

 

Sorry to be the resident thread necromancer but I need to know one thing:

Has anyone attempted applying AS5 to the North Bridge?

 

doubt it. My machine stays cool always so I've never even felt the need to AS5 anything.

 

Yes, I've used it on several Northbridges, as well as CPUs and GPUs... These days though I have to recommend MX-3, it has worked MUCH better for me than AS5, both in application and performance.