Hi,
Just wanted to know what was involved in installing the paste. Basically, do I have to remove the keyboard or what?
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Certainly, you need to get to the CPU. Then you need to remove the CPU and heatsync, clean them and apply the arctic. I haven't used that product, but I hear it's easy to over apply, so make sure it doesn't leak out the sides.
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Yes, you must remove the keyboard to gain access to the CPU.
For a good guide, check out the "Assembly Guides" thread that is stickied in this forum. There, you'll find a link to a website that has specific intructions on how to do such things to a Z70V/Va -
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Let me first tell you - I've got about 4-5 years involved in serious cooling both in notebooks and in desktops....... AS5 is going to give you maybe 3-5 degree drop until a full load... you won't see much if anything while idle...... On a centrino - you're not overclocking and they run cool - so it's not going to even be worth it -- unless you just want to do it to do it......
1. if someone else built it for you, doing it is going to void your warranty
2. on the Z70's the cpu is accessible from the bottom (the M6's were under the keyboard.. not anymore)
3. if you do it after all.... use a SMMALLLLLL amount and spread it with an xacto blade... -
nah man! You supposed to use a large amount. A big fat gue so you could get a nice thick spread on the cpu. Just like spreading peanut butter on a sandwich. The more the better.
Also, while you are add it, make sure you grease the pins. It will help conduct the voltage to the board better. Use something like Epox. That will help a lot.
Don't forget to also apply some on the memory stick, that gets very hot as well....
hehehe JUST KIDDING to above comments. If you actually do it, oops! ahahhaahah -
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Smilepak - you know someone is going to take you seriously, right?
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Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator
Be careful joking like that! I thought you were serious there for a minute, until I read the last line...
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WHAT?!?! I ALREADY DISENSEMBLED MY z70va!!
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ahahahahha.....
I just finish sanding down my HSF on the Z71V. Now the bottom surface is flat and smooth. Giving better contact to the CPU. With the AS5...it rocks.
I need to tweak it a bit more though. Whitehead was able to get it down to 48c at max speed using an overclock 1.7 to 2.26... -
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This one deserves a sticky. Infact put it in the faq section. Bought a used 400mhz cpu on ebay for my m5n. Guess where i found gue? The friggin little capacitors around the node. It was fried. ****it. I didnt buy a paypal gurantee. Guess i can call intel now after i wash cpu. He must have read your post smile.
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You know, this arctic goo cooler stuff is as much a load of bunk as "Super High End" speaker cable.
If it really made any difference, don't you think that all the chip and motherboard companies would already have spread it on? They spend millions of dollars in R&D on how to make chips run cooler... somehow I don't think they missed the significance of a 5 cent dollop of anything. Kinda reminds me of the 4 dollar magnets people could put inline on their fuel lines to make the cars get better gas mileage. -
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See... AS5 is actually made of silver powder (one reason why its expensive)... silver powder is better than aluminum or even copper in transferring heat. If silver wasn't so expensive, we'd make heatsinks out of it (and you think copper heatsinks are outrageous)....
Machined heatsinks still aren't perfectly flat on a microscopic level. The die of the cpu isn't perfectly flat on that level either. A process called "lapping" is ideal to smooth that finish on that small level to get rid of those voids. Those voids are really what this thermal grease or pads are trying to fill and gap the heat from the cpud die to the heatsink. AS5 does is better than ANYTHING else....... I use it on the watercooling systems I build, all the time. But there, I'm looking for ultimate cooling so that I can stress the cpu past it's tested and advertised speed to create awesome performance and yet keep the system stable. in that situation, every degree matters and could be life or death to the cpu.
On a centrino, you'd actually underclocking 90-95% of the time.... it's actually never coming close to it's breaking point and the only time it will is if the fan decided to die...... but even under the greatest stress, you're well within the operating temps and as long as you are, performance and life of the cpu aren't going to be affected at ALL.
Now as far as why they don't do that at the factory....... many reasons.... 1 it's expensive and time consuming... 2 they want to sell you a product that under achieves.. that way the chance of failure is slim to none... 3 its not needed on any standard computer and on a centrino it doesn't help at all......
I feel like arbitrator for AS5...... I've personally seen the facts on both sides of the table and have run my own long term tests....... In some situations I wouldn't be caught without it and yet in others it's strictly used as marketing... people who believe it, don't know how it works, but "have heard" they should have it....... It'll sell computers...... but if you buy a centrino you're already going in the opposite direction AS5 was designed for. If you need that much power, look somewhere else.
... and.. breathe
Artic Silver 5 Installation on Z70va
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