I am trying to figure out if Asus made a mistake about this or not.
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AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer
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I've used my notebook speakers as speakers about a dozen times since I've owned it(2 years come November), it's either connected to my speakers or I'm using a headset.
If you mean the G1, I can't say, the G1s is sort of a LAN party notebook, crappy speakers would be pretty bad. However, I'm not sure if the G1s is at fault, rather then the Vista drivers, the G1p never had that problem, I doubt the G1s will. -
I don't care for my laptop speakers generally. I mean, of course, if they are atrocious, then it can be very annoying. My Sony Vaio FE770G had pretty crappy speakers....seriously...picked up no bass at all...horrible for watching movies, listening to music, and playing games. BUT...it didn't matter much because I just used headphones...my iPod came with these sick Bose sound-cancelling headphones.
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No matter how good they make onboard speakers, they're going to suck. I'd definitely save the money and invest it in a nice expresscard/usb/firewire soundcard and a nice speaker setup and/or headphones.
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I just want average laptop speakers.
The ones in the G1s are horrible. It's like I said....Asus should have just not put speakers on this thing at all!
Hell, they didn't even put a volume switch....and now I understand why....you can't hear anything anyway when the volume is maxed...lol -
I use my speaker output into headphones. Its more comfortable, and more appropriate given that im always in a place that needs quiet. No sense in good speakers
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only a fool wants a good laptop speakers,
even the best speaker in laptop won't match desktop ones -
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AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer
Keep in mind I am not talking about all laptops, but gaming laptops, this thread is aimed at the gaming crowd. Specifically I am looking to see if Asus made a bad choice by making the G1S cheaper with worse speakers than more expensive with better ones.
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
A serious gamer is going to use headphones, so I dont think that a gamer would really be intrested in better speakers. A multi media person would tho, aka sombody that watches alot of movies on the go, or music.
but with the space given your already doomed to poor speaker charicterisitcs, and the acoustics... You can toss in a 500$ state of the art speaker in a notebook and it will sound like crap, just the same way a cheapo speaker in the right enclosure can sound golden. -
i've said it in another thread, but if you can afford a $2000 notebook designed for gaming, shell out some more for a nice set of sony earbuds and/or a set of external speakers.
if sound quality on the go is such a necessity, then i think there's a nice multimedia dell or hp/compaq or sony out there with that in mind. but most gamers, the target consumer for the g1s, will not really mind all that much. and for the cost of the system, which is incredibly affordable for what you get, it is incredibly easy to disregard speaker quality.
plus, no matter how much asus would improve the quality of their speakers, which will undoubtedly increase the price, they would never match a set of external speakers and would therefore be a waste of money.
i don't think asus made a mistake at all by including sub-par speakers in the g1s as i don't necessarily see the importance in it at all. for home usage, i'll use my logitech speakers, and on the go, i'll use earphones to not annoy anyone. -
Let's make it simple: to have a truly good sound, you need bass, to have bass, you need to give enough room for your speakers to move. That's not possible in a laptop. There are technical solution to reduce the movement needed to create bass, but that's tricks or bloody expensive. I prefer to buy a good headset.
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sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!
Laptop speakers are never going to cut it for gaming... I would always use external speakers(if at my place) or a pair of good headphones. Speakers need size to develop the sound. A 2.5 mm driver, with .75 watt power consumption can never produce any decent sound, unless it's an earbud design..
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I voted for better speakers. But I wouldn't want the price to increase much more than $50. Although I use headphones for gaming it would still be nice to have better integrated speakers to watch a movie on the road with multiple people.
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visual and auditory experience is what makes a game great and if either one of em is missng thers no point in buying a 2000$ laptop for gaming in the first place laptop speakers arent that great to begin with even though there are exceptions like the HP dragon or HDX's 4 speakers are only matched by its price and that huge 20"+ screen and instead of shelling out another 100 for a built in speakers i would get external speakers with greaat bass and sound quality or i would get a pair of over the ear headphones like bose thoug theyre costly im sure one could afford one if that laptop is possible
or one of those in ear headphones would be great too
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I already have my Logitech Z5500, it's the best value speaker that u can get out there.
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I too use headphones, but I agree that the G1S has the worst speakers ever.
They should have made away with the flashy neons and perhaps even the bag (after all, you're buying the laptop) and put the money on better speakers. -
I'd drop 50$ without a problem to add a woofer to my notebook. Had one in my 17", my current 15" lacks it. The difference is hughe.
As I take my notebook on hollidays to serve as "Multimedia center" this is important. There is a serious difference when listening to music or watching movies with the entire family. -
I hope ASUS can include Altec Lansing speakers like HP does, so that i can play music out loud without worrying that the high volume will distort everything.
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Headphones my man, headphones
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I prefer headphones as when living an a room with 6 people all working diff schedules speakers are ruled out completely but back at home I have a nice 4 year old set of logitech 4.1 speakers that still kick it BTW I have Bose Triports And the sound SICK!
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this is what i meant
anyways,speakers doesn't use 45nm technology right???
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AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer
Oh...my god....there are an army of them
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AAHHHHH
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Headphones are usually better anyhow, but even expensive speakers in a laptop are going to suffer, as most laptops simply don't have spare room for even the equivelant "small" external speakers. I am fine with using desktop hookups and headphones myself. I wouldn't want to pay much more just for integrated speakers that will never match the quality of what I have already.
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You can't physically fit in the size of drivers that are required for good sound reproduction across a large portion of the audible frequency spectrum. You just can't fit a 6-8" woofer in those things.
Not to mention the vibrations.
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I would definetly pay more to have better built in speakers. Not all notebook speakers sucks, like qosmio g30 or some asus with 4 speakers and subwoofer, the quality is amazing and you dont really need aditional. Also I dont like additional things to my notebook, I prefer if it all built in.
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AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer
But are those quality speakers good enough for competitive gaming?
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uhh...the speakers are going to be mobile so they need to take up as little space as possible, quality speakers are usually large (at least a few inches in radius) and the more powerful the speaker the more powerful the magnets have to be. Magnets = death for computers so sufficient shielding is needed. more shielding means more weight. + the better the speakers they more need to have quality amplifiers, most amps in computers are digital but they still need power. All in all, quality laptop speakers is kind of a joke. You'd be sacrificing one way or another...and if you go in the middle you loose on both sides. In other words...i believe...it's a loosing battle.
HEADPHONES WOOT. lol i've got a $60 pair of sennheisers and they own everything. They dont need shields cuz their away from the laptop, they dont draw tonz of power because their not big (they'r about 7mm from my ears so they dont have to project sound everwhere) and i can tie the wire up and shove them in my laptop bag and not worry about 'em when i dont need them. -
So it's a moot point regardless.
$50 Sony earbuds/headphones, or external speakers are the way to go. -
AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer
Yea, that is basically my point. If you are willing to add to the price of a notebook for better speakers, then why wouldn't you, instead, opt for a cheaper laptop with bad speakers, then spend the difference on externals that will be at least twice as good?
There are also travel speakers that are designed for music and movies on the road for like 50 bucks. -
who can make a small good speakers? even if u paymore the speaker those type are hard to make. Not to mention you need good amp to power decent speaker. i'd rather buy a 30$ 2.1 and it sounds great
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An audiophile demands the best!
As a gamer, would you pay more for better laptop speakers?
Discussion in 'Asus' started by AlexOnFyre, Jun 20, 2007.