Asus C90P Officialy Confirmed for July

Well speculation and guessing is over.

We have word that it has been officially confirmed that the C90P will indeed happen and its target release date is July.

Thanks to Ken @ Gentech for the information.

Strange enough he told me it may not be released by Asus tho, so maybe that means Velocity Micro?

I hope for the sake of all the retailers that the C90P can sail straight so they do not have to deal with hundreds of returns and repairs.

Everybody can look forward to a VERY in depth review from myself, and I plan to put it thru an aggressive head 2 head vs the C90S to see if besides fixing any flaws what the performance benefits are to be had.

I will update with any new information I get as I get it.

 

hope they release it

 

Interesting... Does Ken have a definite answer on what video card is coming with it?

 

Not that I know of or I am sure he would have told me. Soon as he gets product specs I am sure he will post it or tell me. Also when everything becomes super finalized they should open pre-orders on there site.

 

I hope it comes out with the 9700M GT that it was rumored to have. Any details on the laptop? If it's a 15" with a 9700M GT and priced decently, it'll be my next laptop.

 

Well July, the 9000 series is not out by then is it? So just my personal guess but I bet they are gonna pull that "comes with 8600gt GDDR3 now but option to upgrade up to 8700gt or equivalent later"

I dont want to down Asus, but if they are rushing the product out sooner than needed they will only have whats available now to put in there.

Plus too many people were upset that we had no true upgrade for the c90s with video cards, so maybe they think the remedy is to release the recnetly discontinued GDDR3 8600gt and offer an upgrade to a better card the 8700gt later. If 8700gt is the top and it comes out with that card, that means no upgrades again and the same complaints.

Still the 8600gt DDR3 performs really well, much better than the DDR2 version that I have in my c90s (about 30%) but it had driver issues and heat issues and thus why they recalled it, and you can assume that a 8600gt means a cheaper price tag. I wont be upset with a working 8600gt its more than enough power to keep me happy in a laptop. The c90 series is not Asus's gaming laptop thats the G series, I think of the c90 as more of a all around powerhouse for a super cheap price great for games and stuff like video editing and if it did compete with the top of the line G series for over 1000$ less that wouldn't really be good business would it?

 

Probably a 9500 as listed on nexus.

 

Here's details:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/510/1

It's a 15" 1.3" thick gaming notebook with an unimpressive 8700M GT, but it has a slot for desktop CPUs. If they just used a mobile processor and used the cooling system for an 8800M GTX, they'd have a great notebook...

 

I would not call a 8700gt unimpressive, its pretty darn powerfull and this is only a 15" notebook. If you want the 8800+ variety your looking at alot more money and and bigger notebook in most cases.

I mean you cant have it all, the best cpu, video card, built, ect with the cheap price tag. Its hit and miss, but the c90p hits the spot just right if you ask me with alot of power, and all the gpu you should need to play any game at decent settings for a reasonable price.

Only that gateway model has the 8800m for a good price, and I got hands on with it just a few weeks ago and its a piece of crap vs the c90 in terms of build quality, its bigger, it has very hot exsaust, it has lower resolution and lower quality screen, it has a very slow cpu. I mean do you want to sacrifice all these things just for a better video card to keep it in this price range? I dont, but if you do gateway already made the model you want.

 

They could've supported an 8800M GTX in there and still sold it with an 8700M GT. It uses a desktop processor so it has the cooling system to handle it (if they used a mobile processor instead).

 

But thats the c90's main thing was the fact it uses a desktop processor to be cheaper and have more power. Again weak cpu strong gpu = gateway.

I happen to use all that cpu power all the time, so it fits perfect for me.

 

The C90S can't cool down a 8600M GT efficiently >_> And believe me it's not because of the CPU. There is about 2cm between the CPU & GPU and under gaming sessions, my GPU is at 100C while my CPU at ~55~65C.

 

Part of the reason the video card is so hot vs the cpu tho is because out of the 4 fans and 4 sections of heatsink that make up the turbo engine to cool it all down, 3 of them are for the cpu, and only 1 of them for the gpu.


So yeah if a mobile processor was much cooler it may run on only 1 or 2 sections and allow them to increase cooling for the gpu. Still tho this is not the c90's objective, that is the G series that has the mobile cpu and high end video card. Different machines for different functions.

The "Vicious" Mod was directly targeted to fix this problem by using the videocard's heat spreader as a heatsink, and it really works.

 

I would say it does a bang up job. In a nice 75-78 degree room my overclocked c90 (615/1400/510) reaches up to 88-90 degrees. Artic Silver works miracles.

100 is definitely not normal unless your overclocking or in a very hot environment. Check and clean for dust, make sure your heatsinks are properly screwed in and also try applying new thermal paste.

 

Mine is super cool but I have not gamed in a while to even know what my temps are anymore.

Right now listening to music and browsing the forums my cpu & gpu are both showing 55c

 

I just hope that Asus puts out new video cards that are supported on both c90P and C90s. How retarded is it going to get when 5 generations down you are trying to search for a video card for a certain C90x. It would be like having to find peripherals designed for a certain gen Ipod/iphone and having to throw them away because you got a newer ipod. At least they are all universal.

 

Depends on the MXM slot it uses. MXMII or III? it wont get confusing tho, at this point it would be the same card for both if the c90p is MXMII. If it is different and you were ordering a card in the future it would clearly say MXMIII or C90P for the different card.

 

XP Idle= 80C load: ???
Linux Idle- 90C loaf: ???
Vista Idle= 75C. Load: 100C with cpu forced at 100% so you can hear the turbo engine like in 3dmark's cpu tests Without that it just HEAT HEAT HEAT and crash randomly between 105~125C

I'll try to get some artic silver sometime. Room temp is about 17C

 

Mine used to be high JCMS, it was a step by step process to get it down as low as it is now.

First of all my first cpu was running too hot, it was the CPU not the C90S. Replacing that e6700 with a new e6600 droped temps significatly. I got the e6700 on ebay so its possible somebody knew it had a heat issue and thus wanted to sell it to somebody who wouldnt notice. I probably would not have in a desktop, but in a laptop the heat was an issue.

Next was the video card, exact same deal, my first card ran kinda hot and crashed with even a slight overclock. RMA'ed the card and the new one ran about 10c cooler stock with no changes.

To improve my cooling for the gpu & cpu after I had good ones I upgraded the thermal paste, AS5 on the gpu and metal pad for the cpu, that made temps go down some.

finally was my mod. After all said and done my temps are nearly 2/3 of yours.

 

Hmm, yeah I could RMA my GPU but I'd be 5 days C90S-less

 

Yeah I had to go without mine for awhile, it was very much worth it in the end. I may have to send it back again actually now that I am 99% sure my ram issue is not related to my ram but my mobo or wireless card. Shame too because I had to buy/sell 3 different sets of ram and lost a good chunk of money in that process.

Now I am starting to get random BSOD's that I never got before and I am also really sure they are ram related and the whole ram issue is just slowing getting worse in the background. They love to come when I am typing or doing something important too so I can lose my data.

 

Any more news on the launch date yet? I've been waiting impatiently for two months...

 

Well, someone who called them for the C90S last week was told they were currently testing video cards. It should come in september

 

Honestly, until resellers start taking preorders it's mostly hearsay. July WAS the expected date but it doesn't seem to be so.

 

Yup, they said September/October when I called, sorry I didn't include that.

 

I really, reallyHOPE that the us c90s owners can just buy the c90p motherboard and swap it in.

 

Yeah I am still hopeing that there is some cheap way to upgrade myself to solve my ram problems, and maybe get a gpu upgrade.

Im getting blue screens now once in awhile and usually its at the worst time, like typing a report or something so I lose my data. Almost never is it crashing at a moment when the system is under heavy load like a game (but I dont game much at all anymore)

I also wonder if that Nvidia 8600gt issue where they are all out of spec and overheating will effect us, that could be just one more reason Asus has to help us update to a new card somehow, and since the 8600GT is the highest card in the C90S they may have to update us to the C90P for the better card.

The top card for that was supposed to be the 8700gt but I think it suffered the same problem, and that may be the reason for the delay as now they may have to be using a 9000 series card like a 9700, or 9600gt.

 

They told me July and then end of July just like what it happened with C90S.

 

*feels annoyed* The C90P better have impressive specifications or else it would be a complete waste of time.

 

Its basically a slightly updated C90S last I checked, better chipset, support for better cpu's (but the C90S already has a good cpu 2.83ghz is pretty nice) The biggest gain was support for 4gb of ram and a better video card (8700gt) but with the wait it may be comming with something better/different than the 8700gt I am guessing. lets hope for a 9700gt or so. Less heat and better performance.

 

I am (thinking of abandoning the idea of buying the C90P) waiting for the C90P because it has a desktop CPU, powerful GPU (better than C90S by far) and it's customizable. There's so other reason to buy such a notebook. It's not the best looking but it really packs the most punch for the dollar.

So the realistic estimate is around September? I guess I'll buy a different laptop with a 9700m GT that's under $1500.

 

It's basically the same but with 4GB(or maybe/probably 8) RAM support & the 1333FSB CPUs.

 

Oh well... I guess I'll give my business to Sager then...

 

I will laugh if out of nowhere Asus releases the C90p with the desktop processor and support for like a 9800gtx. It'll just be a 15.4" FU-class bomb (get it?) dropped on alienware and clevo.

...Of course i could also win the lottery and I think I might have a better chance of that happening.

 

Those 4 fans can't cool a 8600M GT DDR2. I wouldn't entrust them with a 9800M GTX lol

 

Lol, if the fans are running a bit noticeably, they cool the gpu quite nicely. I'm running seti@home, hahaha, and my gpu is at 59 C. I find that quite amazing actually, since when my c90s turns on, the GPU is already at 58C. The fans sound like a nice hum.

 

It would be nice for Asus to throw us a bone and give some updated specs as far as gpu support, cpu support and estimated release time.

Looks like they are going to do it under the table and just not make a scene about it.

 

I remember being in these forums every hour last year around this time. I remember it so clearly like it was yesterday. We were all talking about the C90S. We were asking all the resellers when they were getting theres. Waiting for them to show as "available" and all. Doing ghost configurations with the system configurators and stuff....its so vivid. We are doing it all over again. Even after all the problems the C90S woudl eventually show....we are still here again with the same anticipation. So my question is....why wouldnt ASUS screw us over the same way? And if they do, what consequences will occur for them? More empty promises a year after the first mistake? I hope not. August will be a good month for me and I would like to purchase the C90P...but im definately not going to be a guinea pig this time.

 

I may be a guinea pig

Its a duty! Anyways as bad as the customer gets roughed over with a bad product launch I think who gets hurt the worst is the retailers. Poor Ken must have had 5 phones to his ear at once with complaints, RMAs, Asus Support, ect and they had to give so much money away fixing them up.

You would think Asus learned there lesson, and lets hope they did. If not yeah 2nd time around is the end I wouldnt ever look at another Asus barebone again. Esp when there are other companies that do it and do it right.

 

But I kinda doubt that they did. I'm not sure why, but I really, really doubt that they learned their lesson. Nonetheless I know I can't really get the c90p, but hey, hopefully Asus will do something for us and give us a c90p something for the c90s.

 

With folding@home running, my gpu idles 65~69 and loads at 96~105. I have to run folding@home while gaming.

My laptop has a mood, I could swear it. Sometimes the fans don't run and I'm idling at 74, other times they run like crazy and its idling at 80.

Let's be honest, the gpu should be idling at 55 with the fans almost not running.....