Asus G1s' Geforce 8600M DX10 Question...

Okay, so the 8600M is a DX10 capable video card, right?

But does that mean that, say Crysis, will actually perform better on the 8600M than let's say the 7950GTX just because the first one is DX10, or it's just "capable" of the DX10 technology, but in fact, the 7950GTX will perform better even though you will not see all the DX10 goodies?

edited 7950GTX and not 9750

 

you mean 7950?

 

I think you mean 7950GTX, but either way you're right. DX10 will add eye candy but not necessarily performance.

 

There are videos showing how crysis looks on DX10 and on DX9. To me the differnce is minimal at best and if im fragging away i will definitely not notice any difference. That being said, its good to watch on DX10.

The 8600GT beats the 7950GTX but only when overclocked so mabye it is possible to have high level DX10 performance just now. I dont think anyone has overclocked their G1S and seen how it runs crysis yet.

 

Yeah I meant to say 7950GTX, I was thinking about the Alienware, my typo...

So basically it goes down like this:

7950GTX - performance but on DX9 so no eye candy
8600M - Eye candy on DX10, but not as fast as 7950...

Is this fairly accurate?

 

Well its not like the 7950GTX will make Crysis look bad or anything, it will still look quite stellar.

Just like radditz stated, you can see the difference, but you wouldn't notice it when your in the heat of a battle.

Sure everyone would like the latest and greatest, nothing wrong with that.

When you compare the 8600M to the 7950GTX to DX9 games in performance, yes the 7950 wins, but when you play games in DX10, you only have the 8600 as an option.

It is not like the 8600 isn't powerfull, you will stil be very happy with it.

 

Yeah, I fell that, but still, I woudn't wanna buy this $2,000 computer and get FEAR on it and play with 22fps

I have a crappy desktop, with a Geforce 5600, 128mb, and I actually got to play FEAR on 800x600 with very low details, so I would figure the 8600M would really kick FEAR's ass just by it's number 8600
FEAR just being a random example of a game...

But yeah, I'm thinking of buying the G1s in a couple of weeks, or should I wait for 8800 video cards?

 

What I'm doing is buying a laptop that will upgrade to the 8800 when they come out. That way I don't have to wait months before I buy a laptop. Check out the ASUS C90S or the Sager 9260. Basically 7950GTX is better in almost every way for gaming than the 8600GT. I don't recommend getting the G1S.

 

I predict crysis will run better on the 8600 gt than the 7950 gtx.

You should compare the 7600 gt to the 6800 ultra to see the similar model level from the last generation. One is the top mid the other is the top high.

But its more than that because the 8600 gt has dx 10, 7950 gtx does not. those two examples were both dx 9.0 cards.

Although you are bringing up a close race. Even if crysis is not the game where it happens, eventually over the life of the two cards the 8600 gt will run games better.


I do not agree, I would definitely get the asus g1s over an alienware or a clevo with 7950 gtx.


8800 go will not be out in a couple weeks. If it were me i would buy an 8600 gt.

 

The most likely possibility is that Crysis will run great any DX9 based card with most of eye candy for the simple reason that Crysis will be released on PC and at the moment XP hold most of PC gaming market and Vista won't even be able to get 35% of PC gaming market for another 1 year atleast. Just look at the stats of Steam. 93% XP vs 3% Vista.

The only reason to buy a DX10 based card is hopefully enjoy benefit in the future as one doesn't really upgrade the video card on it and usually expects a laptop provide decent performance for 2-3 years at least.

 

Its actually just the opposite!

DX10 was created for efficantcy, less system power needed for the same visual levels. Everybody has the wrong idea that DX10 is supposed to look better than DX9. That is not the case, go read up on some of the documentation from MS about it.

Obviously what has you and nearly everybody else confused is that because DX10 can created the same game that DX9 can on less system power, it allows developers to add more visual effects that would otherwise bring a DX9 system down to its knees.

Back to the topic tho, drivers for DX10 are not the best yet, and programmers are totally sucking with DX10. So I dont think any DX10 game will run better in DX10 than its DX9 cousin for quite some time.

Then you compare a 8600gt to a 7950gtx... thats like apples to oranges. The 7950 is much more powerfull and has the heat/power draw to prove it.

The problem I forsee here is that if DX10 say can work 20% better than DX9. Will programmers make DX10 games that run 20% better? or more realistically will they just be 20% more lazy and make us make up the difference with stronger hardware? That 2nd way is the way its been going for several years now with so many games being way too demanding for what you see on screen due to poor coding.