Asus G51VX-RX05 VS Asus G71GX-RX05

Asus G51VX-RX05 P7350 2.0Ghz 3mb l2 cache, 1GB GTX 260m, 4GB DDR2, 320GB 7200RPM, Backlit Keybord, Stereo Speaker, WiFi B/G/N
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Asus G71GX-RX05 P8700 2.53Ghz 3mb l2 cache, 1GB GTX 260m, 6GB DDR2, 500GB 5200RPM, No Backlit Keyboard, Altec Lansing Speaker, WiFi B/G/N
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specs wise the G71GX-RX05 wins(Better Processor, More RAM, Better Cooling, Better Speaker), currently im leaning toward the G71GX-RX05 but what bothers me is the screen, I dont care about the resolution 1440x900 vs 1366vs768. The important thing to me is the VIVID of the screen, the Contast Ratio, Brightness and etc..., also im worried about the build quality of G71GX-RX05 vs G51RX-05.

G51VX-RX05 has nice design, i like the Backlit keyboard, and the theme on the back(the G71GX-RX05 looks ugly for me black + red, no backlit keyboard)
I will use the laptop for surfing the internet, watching movies, and play some games(GTA IV, DOTA, NFS SHIFT,)


Is the $136.04 worth it over the G51VX-RX05? Which laptop will give the user best experience(not in gaming, overall usage "chatting, watching movies, surfing the internet, hmmm i cant think anymore just imagine a macbook pro )

also for gaming
if i bought the g51vx-rx05, i will overclock the processor to 2.5Ghz
if i bought the g71gx-rx05, i will overclock the processor to 2.8ghz or higher
the question is does 300mhz make difference in GTA IV? or the GTX 260m will bottleneck it?

note: im not a die hard gamer , i can stand medium settings, if i were you which laptop will you prefer?

-Rolly

 

bump, i didn't expect this forum is boring, common any opinions?

 

GTA 4 runs best with a Quad I believe (one of the only games that is muti-thread intensive). Yes, it will make a difference. Ultimately, this is a non-debate. One is a 15", one is a 17". Pick what you desire.

 

AFAIK GTA IV is Tricore optimized also im wondering if the extra mhz will make difference because from what ive been hearing, the performance improvement of GTX 260m and 9800m GTS is only marginal 3-5fps, I want to confirm if the GTX 260m is being bottleneck by the processor so i ask if the extra mhz will make difference,

by the way im wondering if the user experience is really much better in g51vx-rx05, because it has backlit keyboard and i heard that g71gx-rx05 has bad screen

by the way, is it possible to replace/mod the keyboard of G71gx-rx05 to make it backlit, because I saw a mod in asus ULV80 that makes the keyboard backlit but he didn't gave any instructions

 

I'm a computer noob, but I'll throw in my thought anyway....
I got the same problem choosing between these 2. I got the G51VX-Rx05 from buy.com (on its way), but I can still refund it and get G71Vx....
So let me know what you think. I'm not a die hard gamer too, but I use CAD software like Solidworks occasionally

For many common new games like Fear 2, the recommended processing speed is about 2.2 Ghz. If you overclock G51VX-RX05, at most you get 2.15 Ghz (without going to Bio). It might still be Ok at this time, but for future games, I can imagine that this laptop will get old pretty fast...

G71VX is only like $130 more, but it is huge, heavy, power hungry, and has only 5400rpm HD speed. The 6 Gb memory might not make that much diff now, but the processor might...
I just want a laptop that will not get old/left behind for another 2 years or so
So is G71VX a better choice?....mnn
Is G51VX-RX05 memory upgradable? I heard that you can expand it to 8 Gb (2x4Gb) even the specs always say 4Gb max. Not sure if this is true...
Also, how much does upgrading the processor cost (let say to 2.54Hz or quad)? is this possible for this model? what about fan?

Also, don't forget you can get FREE upgrade to window 7 from ASUS website if you buy it after june/july 2009. I got this info from Bestbuy
I got the link too if you guys need. Msg me if you can't find it, I can look for it

I guess the following popular gateway laptop is out of our choice:
Gateway P-7805u FX Notebook PC - Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 2.26GHz, 4GB DDR3, 320GB, DVDRW, 17” WXGA+, Vista Home Premium 64-bit

Need advise!

 

Also, does overclocking to 2.15 Ghz (max form window screen) too often hurt the life of your laptop? If no, I can just overclock it every time I play games...

 

You said you gonna overclock it to 2.5Ghz? Is this through Bio? coz what I read from another forum is that you can only get 2.15 Ghz with "extreme turbo."

Quote:
"The High Performance mode screen is where you can switch to Turbo mode, which boosts CPU speed to 2.07GHz, or Extreme Turbo, which runs at 2.15GHz (normal operating speed is 2.0GHz)"

 

The G71 comes with asus software to OC the CPU, the G51 dont, but you can use the following guide to OC whatever you want.

Tev's An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51

 

If your going to mainly use it for chatting, surfing and movies, maybe the g51 would be better. For one its more mobile so you can chat and surf anywhere easier. Also the backlit keyboard is great for chatting at night or in a poor lit environment.

That's a great guide. I OC'ed my g51 to 2.3Ghz (quad) and boosted the gpu. It plays GTA4 real nice considering its running on a laptop.

 

I thought G51VX-RX05 has software for you to choose either "Normal," "Turbo," or "Extreme Turbo" for overclocking. Are you talking about overclocking beyond that with another software? How far can you go?
Again, does overclocking hurt the life of your computer significantly?
I haven't have time to follow through some of the posted guides. Just need a general idea for now

Thanks

 

i vote for 17" becuz it is 17"

 

Brilliant deduction there HaloTechnology

 

To what i remember when it come stock no, i didnt see any software like my G71 had (i think the G50 did have it), it has powersettings, but no OCing there. The G71 does have Turbo software and comes with underclock memory clocks so it allows the OC with the built in software (even the bios has the option inside to use the turbo), while the G51 dont. But i reformated the first week i had it to an SSD, so idk for sure, maybe it comes with it, but i doubt it.

Well in hardware all things are different, some might be able to OC beyond what other can, i seen 2.5ghz stable in some, while others only reached 2.3ghz.

Usually OC will lower the life expectancy of you hardware... how much its impossible to predict as all hardware is different.

Well if you dont wanna bother with the great guide Tev did, then just go with G71 and used the built in software to OC.

 

I think the G51 will suit you better in terms of overall usage. Unless you're chatting, watching a movie, and surfing the internet with 300+ tabs all with youtube videos open, you're not going to need the extra power the G71 provides. It's more portable as well, though I doubt you're going far with either given the battery life. For gaming, the G71 trumps the G51. In terms of GTAIV, here are some benchmarks based solely on different processors, though the p8700 and p7350 are not included: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669595/GTA-4-PC-CPU-benchmark-review-with-13-processors/Reviews/?page=2.

If there's a Best Buy near you, you could check and see if they have display models for the G60 and G72. Since the G60's dimensions are nearly the same as the G51's and the G72's are the same as the G71's, you can get a feel for if either one's going to be inconvenient for your regular use, even though their designs are quite the same. (The G51 is 14.6 inches wide and 10.3 deep while the G60 is 14.8 inches wide and 10.4 inches deep. Their heights are the same, at a maximum of 1.6 inches.)

When you pick one, choose one which you won't regret.

The 5400rpm hard drive speed is offset by the greater data density. It spins slower, but since all the data is closer together, the platters move more data under the heads in every revolution. I'm actually not sure how much faster this makes the 5400rpm hard drive though.

I can stably overclock to 2.5ghz, but each processor has its own individual limitations. It's a matter of trial and error to find your individual stable overclock. You could also use Power4Gear to use the turbo and extreme turbo overclock modes, if you wanted to.

 

Thanks for the info guys
I've decided. I'm going for G51VX-RX05
I just went to BestBuy to look at an Asus model that is similar to G71VX-RX05. Its bigger and heavier than I thought! I know you guys will go like...duh...its 17.1." When they say it's for desktop replacement, they mean it! It will feel like carrying a huge piece of brick on my backpack

I'll just overclock my G51VX as suggested, maybe just to 2.2 -2.3 Ghz.

Do you guys know if the RAM of this laptop is upgradable? (take one of the 2Gb memory out and replace it with 4 Gb, so I can have 6 Gb)

Also, is it possible to upgrade the processor of this laptop (if somehow I can afford it in the future)? If it is, any idea of how much they might cost (let say for P8700 or Q9000 with fan?

 

The processor can be upgraded, but apparently not to a quad core due to the motherboard. The P8700 can be purchased new here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819111013&Tpk=p8700 though you're likely to be able to find a cheaper one either on sale, used, or from the engineering sample. (Make sure it's not a dud!) For instance, http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=429807 is an awesome deal for anyone who can put down the $439.

It's not always easy to know just how large a 17 inch laptop is without seeing one!

 

Great $200 upgrade for P8700 is not too bad.
What about the memory?

 

Does everyone know for sure if the memory of Asus G51VX-RX05 upgradable?
I got mixed answers...

Thanks!

 

Yes, it is upgradeable to up to 8GB of DDR2 RAM.

 

A lot of people say Asus G51VX-X1A can be upgraded to 8GB, but many said Asus G51VX-Rx05 can't be upgraded...
Have someone actually done it?
Vote plz! =D

 

They were wrong. the G51VX-RX05 can be upgraded to 8GB.

 

Asus is eating all the other PC maker's babies.

I can not believe how much they are offering for $800. Its not even refurbished!

 

the g51 rx05 can officialy support 8gb of RAM????

 

Nice! I hope you are right bro
Upgrading the CPU to P8700 is only about $200. It's something I'll look into in the future (might be even cheaper by then). So, in this case I'll stick with the smaller G51VX-RX05. I'm lovin this
Played Crysis perfect on "High." Works on very high, but I can feel its a little choppy. Could be the CPU since its the only one that doesn't meet the requirement. I haven't overclock it

 

It's refurbished...I got it from buy.com. Looks like new though. I ran 3DMark and it performs even a little better than the average (8800).
Also, you get free upgrade to window 7 (I'm going to submit my request to Asus)

 

On the the 3D mark, it says that my GPU is GTX 170M 4096 mb, where it supposed to be GTX 260M. 260M is also what appears under the device manager page.
Am I getting scammed or just misidentification by the 3D mark software or bottlenecking?
advice please!

 

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I contacted Asus and confirm that G51VX-RX05 can only support up to 4Gb of memory (max)....kinda disappointing, but 4 Gb is really enough anyway

 

I don't really give a damn what asus says. I care what I have SEEN PEOPLE DO with my OWN TWO EYES.

 

lol. ok ok. I believe your two eyes =P

 

What are you getting for a battery life? Is it really an as advertised 9-cell battery?