Asus G60VX Lauching on Oct 22, 09 at Bestbuy

Came across a preview of this Sunday Ad link below

http://www.filesavr.com/bby18242009

I have downloaded sunday ad from this guy for over a year now and everything advertised has always been correct. If you download and open the file (no virus, I scanned) You can see that Bestbuy will release the Asus G60VX on October 22, 09 (windows 7 launch date) While not ground breaking but it's interesting, and many unanswered question. Spec is

P7450 2.16 C2D
4GB Ram (DDR 2? DDR 3?)
320GB 7200rpm HD
1GB Nvidia GTX 260M video card (same as G51)
16 Inches LED (Resolution? I wouldn't doubt it's still the lowly 1366 x 768 as G51)
PRICE: $999.99 dollars just like G51 now

I did a little research and found this site for G60 from Europe
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/laptops/351004/asus-g60vx/specifications

And Compared with Bestbuy G51
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9366651&type=product&id=1218092150636

CPU 2.0 vs 2.13 bet both machines are nothing earth shattering and
couldn't really find a big difference on the spec and everything looked the same based on the BB Ad. One notable difference is size.

G51 14.8 in Wide x 10.4 in Deep x 1.6 in Height
G60 15.43 in Wide x 10.55 in Deep x 1.93 in in Height (Based on the above spec from european site and I converted metric to inches myself)

Weight will differ by 0.3 lbs.

I change laptop frequently and always looking for new toys. After in depth look at the G60's spec and did some research, besides the 0.13 cpu speed increase and 0.4 screen size increase, doesn't seem to have any notable traits that would prompt someone to ditch G51 and get G60. Also the increase in size, while not much, increases the travel dimension and bulk which could be con to someone with a backpack that just fit G51.

Any thoughts? inputs on pros and cons between these 2?

PS: Looks like 1366 x 768 and DDR 2

http://www.asus.de/product.aspx?P_ID=8BN4bwL9v1h2OZIZ and also based on this Asus site, the dimension is identical to G51....strange...

 

dang not an i7, well that is a European review. So I wonder if the ones at best buy will have the i7 or asus is just selling off european leftovers.

 

i just got my g51 from bb last night and as soon as i got home, i started to reconsider my purchase for the g60. i dunno, comparing this to my old acer 16", i honestly can't tell a difference. the screen size looks the same and even the dimensions are within mm's of each other.
according to notebookcheck, the dimensions of the g60 is identical to the g51. so i guess asus used the same chassis for the two models??

what to do... what to do... get the g60??? keep the g51??? so does this mean asus will eventually drop the g51 line in favor of the g60?

 

Sounds like a 16" G51 with an overclocked CPU. No difference except... blue case? Now I might hurt myself.

 

so, if they are selling that now, i guess they will sell the 51j next year damn I wanted to get a new computer soon!

 

In France, for example, the G60VX is already announced

http://www.microrama.fr/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_29&products_id=1304

We're expecting the G60J (i7)

 

Your original link to the ad is not working. Damn now I am really wondering what to do. I was going out tomorrow to by the G51 at BB but now wonder if I need to wait yet another week.....

 

Really? I just tried and the link to download file still works @_@.... one distinct advantage I see with G60 over G51 is its windows 7 installed. If for any reason you want to recover stuff its a one step easy recover, other than that, everything seems...the same...

I actually want the new ALienware M15x but they dun have windows 7 config available yet....but not sure if its worth spending 2k on it either.

 

Lol yeah that the M15x would be nice but no way in hell my wife will let me spend 2k

I think the host needs me to sign up to view your link. I will try that now.

 

Ok I got the ad now. As far as the Win 7 that really doesn't matter top me. I don't mind upgrading. But what I do like is the darker face. Not a real big fan of the white....Hmmmm

 

Hm....I supposed there's no hurry for you to get G51. Wait a week with windows 7 loaded and all driver works is a plus. I just really wonder about the chasis size though....whether they are the same or is G60 bigger...I really don't want a bigger one. But then The alienware I want is HUGE

 

the G60 chassis is the same- only difference is a smaller bezel/larger screen. and iirc, a different design on the lid.

 

Roger that, that's what I thought.....but everything else looks the same, its essentially a G51 with larger screen and windows 7, everything else is the same hm.........and price stays the same of course.

I had returned two G51 when it first came out due to wireless problem one 1st one and 2nd one GPU idle temperature was above 80c.. yes idle, not gaming. I finally decided I waited long enough and read enough on the forum that they should have corrected the problems so I went to pick up another G51 yesterday albeit the imminent windows 7 launch. NOW! this dang G60 shows up.....I'm wondering if I should

1) Open the G51 and just use it and upgrade to 7 later
2) Return it for G60 (looks the same but I wonder if there will be anymore early adopters curse)
3) return everything and get Alienware M15x which I have been drooling over it for 10 years....

 

why are people saying it has the blue lid, from the link of the 2 reviews it is white.

 

Yeah I think that is European model. If you download the pdf at the beginning of the post. It is the Actual BB ad and has a picture of it with a blue lid.

 

that's it... i'm gonna take my g51 back today, but hopefully they'll take it back without restock fee since i did mess around with it a little last night. however, when i bought it, it was inspected and updated by geek squad so the package was already opened and the seal was broken. think i'll have any problems returning it?

i don't really care for the 15.6" vs 16", but it looks like it's got the atheros network adapter, bluetooth?, slightly faster processor, and of course windows 7 preloaded. i think that all easily makes up for the difference of $50 (i paid $950 for my g51). plus, i don't really care for the white case on the g51

 

HEY, what you can do is exchange. If it's still 14 days by thursday, u can exchange it without restockcing fee even if its opened.

If you are premier silver member (meaning u spend way too much money there) you can return, exchange in 45 days...

Im placing order for an alienware laptop bag + sidewinder mouse in preparation for next thursday kekeke

one question remains..

you guys suggest the G60 (specs and price are known to you guys already)

or

Alienware M15x with core i7 1.6 ghz turbo to 2.8 ghz 4 GB ddr 3, 320gb 7200rpm HD, 1600 x 900 LED and same GTX 260m card for 1915 shipped?

 

Really? I didn't know you could exchange it unless there was something wrong with it.

 

trust me bro....i buy and sell laptop and exchange them of course all the time they know me by sight..

if you don't LIKE a laptop and opened it and wish to return. 15% restocking fee, BUT if you DONT LIKE IT and want to exchange it, NO restockking fee for that. U can take that to the bank!

 

I'm gonna take G51 back to return and I printed out the AD i showed on 1st page and ask if they can reserve one for me on the 22nd. I even ordered this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834997405

in advance to go with it.

 

Good to know! Guess I will go ahead and send my wife to get the G51 tomorrow and then I can decide next week whether or not I want to exchange it.

 

ha, why not just send her next thursday to get G60? save the hassel? SOo you want the G51 more than G60?

 

so i called best buy and they said it doesn't matter if you're returning or exchanging it. if the notebook has been opened, then you will still get the 15% restocking fee when exchanging it. however, i told her that my notebook has already been opened since the geek squad did their "optimization" on it before i even purchased it. she said i'd have to talk to a supervisor since their 15% restocking fee varies case by case. since i just bought it last night, i'm gonna try to return it today. i figure, chances of them not charging me a restocking fee are better than if i were to wait till oct. 22nd when all the new laptops are out and have windows 7.

 

OH THAT BLOWS! where u live? tons of store i been to in south california waive if just exchange.

I just went to return the G51 and attempted to reserve G60 but they said its not even in their ssytem for pre order yet. TOld me to go back Sunday to do it the 18th. Ill do it and put my review of G60 back here after thursday

 

i'm in the inland empire, but was looking to drive as far as orange county or la areas to find g51.
hmmm... i'm reconsidering... AGAIN...! one other major thing that i was hoping would be improved was the cooling system on the g60, but apparently asus didn't learn anything from the g51.

"Let's take a look under the G60VX's hood. Starting with the graphic card which is cooled consistently at around 53.0°C in idle mode. In return, the GeForce GTX 260M's temperature rises up to a far too high 101.0°C under full load." - notebookcheck.net

also, after actually paying attenion to the specs this time, i guess i overlooked that the bluetooth is optional, atheros network adapter isn't for sure, the difference in cpu is negligible, and installing windows 7 shouldn't be that big of a deal. so... what's the point of the g60??? same chassis as the g51, 16" screen is nearly identical to the 15.6", no improvements with cooling. am i missing something here?

 

Not sure if you wouldn't be best suited getting the G51J model from GenTech PC if you are thinking M15X. I think the Pre-order price was hinted at sub $1400. Not sure what the Alienware advantage would be to warrent $500+ additional out of pocket. I bet GenTech would be more "forgiving" if you ended up being underwhelmed with the PC (i.e. exchange etc) more so than Alienware. You might just get stuck with a PC this time

 

Where did you find that 101C article? can u link me?

 

WOW ur still alive hahaha. so did u keep the G71 or G51? how are they holding up?

And do both of u think its a better bet to still get the G51 since its been out a while and chances of bugs worked out? or since its same hardware with slightly faster cpu and same component with win 7 installed (saves the hassel) just get the G60?

 

As far as I could tell, M15x provides better cooling
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=843

look at temp age, it still idles 55c like asus does but load is under 70c. around 66 or so. I nearly pressed SUBMIT ORDER cause I get 7% off from school and 3% off from dell preferred account... but its still 2G

 

damn...just saw the article too

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-G60VX-Gaming-Notebook.21310.0.html

meaning should I still get the G51 and forget the G60?...or they are pretty much in the same boat and I should forget about both?

 

well, at least after the stress test and the high temps, the performance doesn't suffer.
the link is the one that howard just posted

 

Well they both went back because the G51-X1A had come out which had the combination of what I ended up liking in each; so I ended up ordering the G51-X1A from NewEgg via Bing.com which netted to an under $200 difference from the G51RX05 but gained the screen, warranty, bluetooth that both models lacked and the bigger CPU that I couldn't get over with the RX05 model. I really am happy with the product.

I'm not concerned over the GPU temps. The GPU runs a bit warm when I push it with the games I play (upper 80s) without any cooler but with a slight investment in a cooler and a mod it will be even better.

With regards to the time used vs investment I think the G51 is in a sweet spot. Its hard to stomach $2k or more (I did it with the W90Vp-X1/X2s which I sold). Ok so the Alienware runs the GPU a bit cooler but costs A LOT more. Cooler means what really in the real world, its not like you need a fire blanket to use the ASUS. I have yet to find anyone here or on the internet that has any empirical data that shows how the temp differences of a Nvidia GTX260M in a sager or AW or Asus impacts performance or longevity. The ASUS has a 2yr warranty with 1 year Accidental damage warranty so if anything happens Asus will cover it. I don't expect to have this laptop doing any heavy lifting in two years (one of my kids will probably have it by then).

I'd rather have a great capable laptop with a great warranty (G51) with $500+ left in my pocket then spend more than I have to. I'm $500 a head of the game for my next laptop upgrade in a couple years which I'm sure will outclass either the G51 or AW M15X.

It's ultimately your choice, but having been someone who was keeping up with the Joneses (W90VP X1-X2) having a good capable laptop with money to spare is a much better feeling than having a real pricey laptop that is a few weeks away from yesterday's tech. I mean think of all those M17 owners who spent $3-4K on a Q9000 equipped machines when the i7s are just about to be released.

 

HA! Why am I not surprised they both went back but good for you! and you are totally correct, I have been looking at this one. Seem to be the perfect middle of the road between Bestbuy G60/G51 and Alienware

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220576

with 2.53 ghz 1920 x 1080 LED and GTX 260 this seems to be good but with stupid CA tax it would net me 1443 dollars. About 330 more than bestbuy version with windows 7 loaded.

However one thing that I just couldn't get out of my mind is I still have my i7 desktop and I just spend 400 bucks to put in the latest ATI 5870 video card which is a phenomenal beast of a card so I'm debating the necessity for Alienware or the 1299 G51 for that matters. I would love a mobile gaming platform when I go school and sis house for weekend stay and stuff but not sure if having such powerful desktop justifies another REALLY expensive. 999 seem to be a good price point? hm.....

PS: The absolutely no return part is what has been holding me up too with newegg G51

 

Well I guess the same would be true re: CA tax if you went with the G51J from say GenTechPC with its i7 and 260M. Don't you know anyone who lives just out of state

Well installing handles on your desktop might be an answer to mobile computing as well. Heck for AW $1900+ you could get any G51 model and the kicking desktop card.

$999 for gaming on the go (especially if its not your primary comp) is hard to ignore for sure not to mention "a return policy" and more $$$ towards keeping that Premier Silver Membership another year.

 

there is not a single laptop card that can beat my desktop 5870..heck, not even TWO GTX 280M can beat 5870. 5870 is slightly faster than GTX 295 desktop even... but nah bro..installing handle won't do..I'll have to do that for my 24 in monitor too then

Could you tell me where you ordered yours from, how long it took and the return policy?

And would ur ecommend G51 (with vista still) but bugs might have been worked out or get the slightly faster G60 next thursday with windows 7 installed, 16 inches and same 999 price?

PS: Alienware being.. I swear.. ever since I was a poor student, I have always been longing to get an alienware since they started in 1996.....I have more than enough to buy several now but still can't bring myself to spend 2G on one even though I can afford it without any problem. I'm back to school now to get more future promotional opportunities since I didnt finish school before Nothing like being surrounded by 19 yrs old girls

 

http://phonestechnology.blogspot.com/2009/06/gaming-notebooks-asus-g51-and-g60.html

Scroll down for the size, apparently G51 and G60 have idential chasis and weight and dimension. I already ordered the Alienware Orion backpack 69.99 + Microsoft Sidewinder X5 32.99 in preparing for whatever gaming rig I'm getting. I'm nuts I know.. and I'm also ready to go pick up my MW2 at mid night Nov 9th

 

I ended up ordering the G51-X1A from NewEgg via Bing.com (cashback ftw). It took a few days and well NewEgg is probably the worst for "returns" since their policy is NONE unless defective and their Customer Service Department is just as useless.

I was not worried about returning the G51-X1A since I had already thoroughly put the G51 through its paces along with the G71 with special thanks to Best Buy. Like I mentioned before I wasn't disappointed with the G51 from BB, I just really wanted a stronger CPU out of the box without having to undervolt or use SetFSB. The X1A with the same 2.53 Duo that came in the G71 BB model took that concern off the table. Also knowing that I was going to have to keep this computer/laptop for 2 years the X1A came with the 2 year ASUS360 warranty (which I have first hand experience with 4 RMAs with my W90s) and couldn't be happier with how or how quickly ASUS handled my problems. Then sprinkle on a full HD LED backlit screen, bluetooth, one a year of O"CRAP kid what did you just do to daddy's computer protection for a few bucks more and it was really a no brainer for me.

Hmm same price for a slightly larger screen, slightly faster GPU, and never having to touch vista, but I would have to wait a week......If I was set to buy a G51 today I would wait the week for the G60.

Yeah I felt the same way about a lot of things, some of them are still sitting around here somewhere collecting dust.

Its bittersweet, not many people that buy a $3k laptop are going to say anything but good things. You don't read to many posts titled "Boy was I stupid for spending so much on my laptop, I could have spent so much less and been just as happy".

In hindsight while the W90Vp-X1/X2 were amazing laptops (when they were not in for RMA) and looked imo far superior to any gaming laptop to date for an actual adult; I would have to admit it really wasn't worth the $2k price tag after giving a great (not the BEAST) but somewhat inexpensive gaming laptop a shot (tempered with...for how much I use them)

If you want to stay in the sub $1k range wait the week for the G60 from BB. If you want to spend a bit more then look at the G51J from GenTechPC or wait for updated NewEgg versions. I don't think I could recommend the AW for any reason atm over the G51/G60s based on cost, reliability, warranty, performance. I'm sure someone wiill tell you the GPU idles or max's some degrees less in the AW...ok so what...does that mean the computer is going to last longer? They don't really know and what makes them the expert. Yes the data may show one is cooler or hotter than the other but no actual hard factual relationships regarding longevity can be drawn as a result.

 

i found this but i dono if its true or not lol it was posted july 30th.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/30/asus-g60vx-lappy-smuggled-out-of-the-peoples-republic-of-gamers/

 

AW is like the porsche and bently that everyone always wants but probably will never get for one reason or another. I do have lots of payment now..bought a house and etc etc...I almost bit the bullet since I wanted one for many years but slapped myself and closed the firefox before I hit SUBMIT lol. Ok here is what i'll do. Forego the G51 for now, and will wait for G60. I dont' see anything catastrophic since they are both the same laptop, same chasis, same price. Why not get the one that is slightly faster and with Windows 7 loaded so I dont have to fetch driver and upgrade and all those stuff.

There is still that rare chance I might jump the gun for Alienware tho unlikely... I would totally order the highest end one from newegg, gentec or alienware if this were to be my primary rig like it is for you, but it's not. I made upgrade to my rig plus that 400 bucks ATI 5870 card, so a 1k machine is ok unless I get drunk one day and have one of those I GOTTA HAVE IT moment....but you'll be the first to know

 

WAIT, I just saw you got the X90. that crazily expensive laptop? boy.........................you baller

 

I used to want one of those old Area-51 laptops, but that was back when I was ignorant and assumed $1,000 was the base price for any laptop. But I'm not as attracted to Alienware anymore. Feels like a little overkill on a number of levels. I quite like Asus right now, though. Hopefully one of these years they'll come out with a better cooled gaming machine, but I still like the G51.

 

Any suggestion with the Vista equipped G51 vs the upcoming windows 7 equipped G60? I like G51's design better, graphic that is but I like the slightly bump in speed + windows 7 already loaded convenience, especially at same price.

 

I'm not terribly impressed with Alienware. If price is no object then sure but their quality is no better than any other computer I've had. I've had several problems with both of my Alienware. I guess maybe it's not their fault as they really just put them together and don't manufacture much, if anything.

Either way, I've had 2 or 3 RAM chips fail, a hard drive, screen, 7950GTX, and my sleep mode has never worked right since I installed Vista. Also speakers are mediocre even for a laptop and cooling is horrible if sitting flat on a table. My CPU throttles just from watching HD WMV's.

The Asus look like the way to go for me.

 

I'm pretty sure the bumped up speed is just an overclocking which you could do yourself with the G51. And you still get the free Windows 7 upgrade. You might still have to deal with Vista for recovery disks or something, but I don't know how that goes. The G60 is basically the "already done for you" model with a slightly larger screen, but I don't think the screen is going to make too big of a difference when it's at the same resolution. I would just make the decision based on look preference since that's the biggest difference between the two.

 

Roger on the speed bump and look. Call of duty MW2 comes out Nov 10th and I just wanted something with windows 7 already loaded or at least have it to load so I dont have to play the game, reinstall window, get all my stat erased then load MW2 again just laziness....One thing I dunno is whether the new G60 will have backlit keyboard like G51 does, that to me is more important than having win 7 preloaded guess will just have to find out.

As for the look, you guys can see that subtle dark blue look for G60..hey ZOEY, I see your avatar resembles the new G60 lid design, do u have a pic of it I can chk it out? I really love the transformer feeling look of G51, can't get a clear pic of the G60 tho..

 

The G60 has all the same chases and everything. I would assume it has the same backlit keyboard. At the moment I'm liking the subtle dark blue look of the G60. The white case I have kinda makes me feel like I stand out a little. I like a little flashiness, but not "look at me!" flashy. Not that I don't think the white case looks good. It does look awesome, but maybe just a little less suited for me. I might have to see some real life pictures of the G60 before I decide which I like better, but I'm leaning towards the blue one. (I like blue.) At the moment there aren't any real life pictures out yet. Just the digitally rendered/edited images, but they give an idea of what it will look like.

Image links:
http://notebookitalia.it/images/stories/asus_g51j/ASUSG51J_03.jpg
http://cache.techie-buzz.com/images...67B/1253799407_asusnotebookllaptopg60j490.jpg
http://www.tcmagazine.com/images/news/Hardware/Asus/Asus_G51J-SZ028V_03.jpg

The G60 may or may not have side lights. That one with the lights is said to be the G51J and the G60 has been shown without side lights, but the images may not have been accurate to it's actual design. The third picture looks the most realistic (minus the excessive light glow).

 

actually I dont like the white or the blue lid. I like the blue lid better. all these crazy designs turned my wife off on the x83 and it was kind of tame, you know, they are blue with what it looks like is warterdroplets. She really wanted an hp, I told her tough, she was getting the x83 since we were replacing a DEAD hp. I like the x83 alot, except for the mouse buttons, kinda stiff.

 

WOOO I LIKE the blue design..I have blue car, blue everything..it's my favorite color....thanks again for the picture. Just a side note..chk this out

http://www.frys.com/product/5948284?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

not sure how it handles game tho but 1GB 4650 and blue ray drive for 999.

 

The 4650 is considerably less powerful than the 260m. You can pick up a bluray drive compatible with the G60 for ~75-80$ shipped on ebay. Sell your DVD drive, and its ~60$ total out of pocket.

 

Yeah, I would take the better GPU that the Asus has and worry about blue ray later. Also not too fond of that 1 year limited warranty.