In my original post I complained about poor 3D performance and blamed it on the cpu. Well I should have been a little more watchful about the nvidia Power-Mizer settings. I had assumed that while the laptop was plugged in everything would be running at full speed. That wasnt the case; I disabled Power-Mizer and noticed a large increase in performance. Settings for all the benchmarks are as follows.
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3D Mark 2001 1024x600x32 Default Settings = 7887
3D Mark 2003 1024x600x32 Default Settings = 4919
3D Mark 2005 1024x600x32 Default Settings = 2745
3D Mark 2006 1024x600x32 Default Setting = 1592
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Above screen shot taken at 800x600 that framerate is about as low as it got when there was intense fighting on the screen.
Now i'm much more impressed with the 3D performance of this little netbook/notebook, but as i mentioned before the atom is limiting performance, but this will satisfy some people's craving for gaming on the go.
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ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..
Indeed. Asus engineers are well known for throttling their gpus via PMizer for over a year now, esp in smaller formfactor notebooks, to keep thermal heat management under control.
I'd be interested to see your temperature plots for the unit with and without PMizer deactivated, as I'd expect them to have a fairly big split for the performance delta you're getting. -
How do you disable PowerMizer? And whatever the procedure is, is it the same in XP as it is in Vista?
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Do you have World of Warcraft? If so , can you run it and see what sorta frames you get?
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hspdion: There's an option in the nVidia Control Panel (or whatever it's called). You may need to switch to Advanced/expert mode.
If that doesn't work there is a small program called PowerMizer Switch.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=280720&page=2
I think the Control Panel interface is largely the same in XP and Vista. -
I'll post temps of power-mizer vs none hopefully by tomorrow, been a little bit busy.
Just wondering if there is still that coolbits reg filet hat can allow overclocking with the new Nvidia control panel?
Sorry i don't have WoW -
Temps under idle with no PMizer = 52 or so, with it enabled 48 or so.
Under load gets to about 64 which isn't too bad at all. One thing i noticed, and it may just be gpu-z messing up but for some reason the gpu is running in pci-e 1X mode, not that it would make a huge difference in performance but it is odd. -
So has anybody figured out how to overclock the little atom on this board? SETFSB isnt working for me using the same PLL as the 1000H. Looks like it must be a different chip. So I'm Stuck at 1.6, my 1000H could do 2.05ghz. I'm sure there will be some programs and utilties coming along in the future for the N10 though... it plays my Source engine games just fine so far! So im happy with it.
So is powermizer not a program but a driver setting that nvidia implemented? I dont see any powermizer program anywhere, I used the powermizer switch, but I didnt see any difference in my core clock or memory clock. -
Powermizer is a driver option, indeed.
I do not see clearly at all why one would buy an Atom (designed for energy savings) and then overclock it... then again I don't see the point of overclocking mainstream CPUs that sit idle 95% of the time, either. So I must be missing something. -
My reason for wanting to overclock it, is well, just being used to the 2.0 ghz speed of my 1000H... Also, games are completely CPU bound! I have been doing some testing... I used any source game (portal, HL2, deathmatch, garys mod) load it up, type 'cl_showfps 2' and watch your framerate... now go to an area of the map that is complex, and point your cursor at an area that gives you the lowest framerate......
Now, you can turn your antialiasing on, I took mine up to 4x, and antisotropic filtering to 4x, and what happens..... your framerate doesn't take a hit at all... That is because it is the CPU that is lagging with all the physics and other computations and whatnot...
Therefore, when playing games... don't just disable antialiasing because you think you will get better framerates that way, because the second your CPU cant handle it, it becomes the bottleneck, not the GPU, and you might as well have prettier visuals...
On another note, I found the setting in power4gear that lets you bump up the CPU speed to 1.76GHZ, which has helped scrolling performance on webpages. and boosted my framerates a bit.
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I have a thread on [H]ardforum, someone mentioned about the pwer 4 gear setting that enabled 1.7ghz, I downloaded the one for xp, but there is no such option. I even tried installing the eee super hybrid engine, which does nothing on my laptop, i'm sure eventually i'll figure it out though, as for overclocking, its fun
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Have you opened you N10j?? i realy whud like som pics on the motherboard on this lite thing
I whud like to know if it have the same conections as the 1000H so that you can put in a extra mini pci-e and a sim card reader like the pics below.Attached Files:
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Other thsan upgrading the hard drive, all i saw was the hdd and the wireless card, the card is wireless N but the wifi card only has 2 spots for the antenna wires, there is a 3rd wire that isn't in use, maybe the intel wifi cards have spots for the 3rd antenna. As for adding a sim card I believe the motherboard is actually reversed vs other asus laptops, meaning its under the keyboard, but I havn't been brave enough to totally rip it apart......yet
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Ye the 3rd antenna is for WiFi, like the Intel 5300 card or Intel 4965 card.
So i know i need to but in extra antennas like in the 1000h.
But plz post some pics if you are "brave enough" to rip it apart
Asus N10J 3D benchmarks
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