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    Asus N43JF-A1 USA Model

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by nicksti, Oct 14, 2010.

  1. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    Just popped up:

    Asus N43JF-A1 $1000.00 approx

    1366x768 Screen
    i5-460 CPU
    GT 425M GPU
    4GB DDR3
    500GB HDD

    For those who wondered if it was going to make it to the US.
     
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    I really wish they would have the Jq version of this in the US...
     
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    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    This is looking pretty good. I really like the looks and it seems to have a decent spec list. I actually prefer the dual-core to the quad i7 - less heat and I don't really do anything processor intensive enough to warrant a more powerful processor

    Also: does this have optimus?
     
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    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    Are there any benchmarks comparing the 32nm Westmere based dual core mobile i5 CPUs with the 45nm Clarksfield based quad core mobile i7 CPUs?
     
  7. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    CPU Benchmark

    According to Notebookcheck it is not too far behind the new i7-740QM. But there have been discussions to death about which one will be better in the long run.

    The i5-460 should outperform the i7-740 in anything that uses less than 3 cores and will take advantage of the higher clock speed. But an additional reason would be the ability to run Optimus.
     
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    essense Notebook Evangelist

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    Optimus is the only reason i'm refusing to get a JQ model =]
     
  9. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    I am on the fence between the two. I need this notebook to last me 4 years so I want it to be as future proof as possible. I think the JQ will help me achieve and may be more valuable to me than the increased battery life.
     
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    Keep in mind, the i5 460M has a TDP of 35W and the i7 740QM has 45W. Only a 10W difference. I know this can make a big difference on a laptop, but you can also go into the Power Options control panel, and change the advanced power plan settings, and set the maximum CPU state to like 50% when battery is being used.

    That would limit it to two cores using HT, which is what the 460M has, as opposed to 4 cores with HT. Optimus might make a slight difference, but in reality, it would probably be hard to notice. The Nvidia GPU will clock itself down to sub 50MHz levels when you are in 2D mode on the desktop and hardly use any power.
     
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    If asus gonna offer higher resolution than 1368 in any of there n series models I'm gonna buy them
     
  12. essense

    essense Notebook Evangelist

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    To be honest, in 4 years sure you will see a lot of change in the computer world, but will you really need it? Especially on an entertainment laptop, just get a blu-ray drive and you're set for at least 4 years.

    Depending on what you're planning to do
    ie. Hardcore gamer, then you should be more worried about the GPU
    ie. AutoCAD, Video editing then you should get the Quad
    if you don't need 4 cores, your 460m can always be changed down the road i7-640m yuummy =]

    userno69, I was just wondering:
    if a dedicated GPU's self clocking abilities lead it to "hardly use any power" why would they bother making optimus and graphics switching? (This is the only reason I gave up on the MSI because they don't support graphics switching)
     
  13. userno69

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    Intel tried to shut out discrete GPUs from the mobile market by integrating their own GPU into all their mobile 32nm CPUs. Optimus was in response to that, so that both GPUs would not be active at once.

    The Intel GPU technically will use less power, as it is 32nm and slower, but the actual diference would be very small.
     
  14. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    You know what you are saying does not pan out in real life.

    As shown on notebookcheck.net's review of the Lenovo Y560 vs the MSI GE600

    Lenovo has a 5200mAH battery, i7-720QM, ATi HD 5730 = 3:24hrs idle, 1:45hrs dvd
    MSI has a 4400mAH battery, i5-520, ATi HD 5730 = 3:37hrs idle, 2:41 dvd

    Further models:

    Sony Vaio VPC-F12Z has a 5000mAH battery, i7-740QM, NV GT 330 = 2:38 idle, 1:35 dvd
    Acer 5745PG has 4700mAH battery, i5-460, NV GT 420 = 2:38hrs dvd, 6:18hrs idle

    I guess I will have to wait and see what the Asus actually does.

    The annoying thing to me about owning a computer 3+ years is not that technology has gone ahead of what you own, its that newer software is so bloated or coded to make use of faster machines. Some programs just seem to be getting bigger and more all-encompassing. Does Nero really need to open jpegs? I would like to get a machine that will grow old gracefully with me lol.
     
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    True but I'm sure all of these laptops didn't have the quad core i7 cut down by half to match 2c/4t of the i5s. Still the battery life won't be AS good, but it should be improved.
     
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    ronsj Newbie

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    I noticed there are 2 different keyboards for the N43.

    The U.S. Asus site shows this:

    [​IMG]

    ExcaliburPC shows this:

    [​IMG]

    Anyone know which one is the actual U.S. model?
     
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    does this have the illuminated keyboard ?
     
  18. essense

    essense Notebook Evangelist

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    99.9% sure there's no illuminated keyboard
     
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    This laptop got my attention. Its portable, has a good graphics card. Are there any other 13-14 inch notebooks that are of similar performance. My birthday is coming up and id like to get my hands on a portable gaming laptop by Nov 13, any ideas?
     
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    The Acer 4820 seems pretty popular on here.
     
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    Hi there...
    I need your help..
    I want to purchase Asus N43JF-A1.
    I hadn`t ASUS , never! Who suggest me, to purchase it?
    And who own it?

    Thank you

    Dell XPS 14. It is really nice and new model. But it is bit expensive, than Asus N43, and Acer 4820) Good Luck with Birthday.
     
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    essense Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you for the reply. I have heard many horror stories of Acer quality in the past. I will check it out. I hope this notebook hits the US soon
     
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    Anyone know what the battery life on this is likely to be like?
     
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    essense Notebook Evangelist

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    No more than 4hours on regular use comparing with these guys:
    XPS14
    N82JV
    XPS15
     
  27. Evil_Sheep

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    Yes my guess is also 3-3.5hrs. It's only equipped with a 6-cell 47Whr batt, which is almost half the capacity of the U30Jc (which gets 7hrs or so.) Par for the course for the N-series (and its competition) but still quite disappointing for a supposedly portable laptop...
     
  28. FelixC

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    So I take it we aren't expecting larger batteries for the N*3 series? Seems a bit silly, I was kind of hoping they'd be coming along a bit later. What's Asus' reasoning behind it, the extra 500g?
     
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    A misguided sense of product design. There's probably some groupthink going on too: the Asus N43/53/73 mirror the lineups from Sony (EA/EB/EC), Dell (XPS 14/15/17), and HP (Envy 14/17): all multimedia focused, all with equally poor battery life (except the Envy 14 tho it's not great.) It doesn't matter in a 17-incher, obviously, but why bother with the 14" if it's equally deskbound?
     
  30. essense

    essense Notebook Evangelist

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    Just a question: if the multimedia laptop has a battery life as long as a laptop with portability as its selling point, wouldn't it be cannibalized because the multimedia one can do more?
     
  31. lukeg310

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    I couldn't wait any longer for this notebook to come out. I ended up getting a sweet deal on an Alienware M15X. I would like to know what the owners of this model think
     
  32. FelixC

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    A pity, really. An N43 with upwards of 5 hours battery life would be absolutely fantastic. I mean even if I had to pay extra for getting it after the initial purchase, I'd probably still do it.

    I suppose it's a valid concern, but around the same price point wouldn't the "portable" one still manage more time out of the same battery? If we're looking at the portable counterpart to the fancy, 14'' N43, the U43Jc, Asus boast with up to potentially 10 hours. I haven't looked into their "Super Hybrid Engine" and I'm not quite certain how it all works out to such a massive difference, seeing as at first glance the only hardware difference in specs offer is the nVidia 310M, but would an N43 with the same battery get anywhere near that?
     
  33. essense

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    That's exactly my point their plan is to screw with us!!
    For around the same price someone who wants more portability will buy the U43 while someone who wants the performance/ability will go for the N43
    Just like back then when cellphones either had the best camera or stamina or screen or performance or w/e but never the best everything xD
     
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    First, just to kill any worries about the Nvidia 425M/435M, look at this chart: AnandTech: NVIDIA Performance and Mainstream 400M Specifications The 435M is just clocked a bit higher than the 425M. No difference in shaders, memory bandwidth, etc.

    I'm excited to finally see the N43 out but am worried about the keyboard it uses.

    [Please note I am an American typing this on a W3J. I apologize for my ignorance of the world's different keyboard layouts.]

    The layout of the "Enter" key is different on the N43J than "traditional" laptop layouts. It is two rows and the lower row (the same row as asdf) is smaller than the portion on the top row. More importantly it begins two keys away from the L key (on my keyboard it's the ; key and the ' key).

    The \ key has been moved next to the Z key and the upper right key (usually ~) is something I don't recognize.

    The N53 and U43 keyboards have a more "US standard" layout.

    The U43 Keyboard is what I'm used to and the kind of layout I'd like. I don't care if it's chiclet or not but I'd just like to know if I can get a traditional (US) keyboard layout.

    Currently the image of the N43 on amazon shows the above "non-US" layout.

    I could probably get used to a new layout, but I'd rather not. If there isn't a US model available then do people think a keyboard swap is an option?
     

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  35. FelixC

    FelixC Notebook Consultant

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    Are you sure about the source of that image, where did you get it? I was under the impression that island-style keyboards were only used for early N43 prototypes. Or did you get a chance to have a look at one in a store?

    On an unrelated note, that US price looks suspiciously attractive! I think it might actually work to ship overseas, if there's a 30% markup on duty and post to the UK it would actually work out just around the prices advertised in Germany and Poland. Edit: Wait, US displayed prices don't include sales tax, do they?
     
  36. nicksti

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    In the online world, unless you are shopping where the warehouse is located you usually do not pay State Sales Tax.

    I actually find the pricing of the N43/53 series to be a little expensive.

    Asus N43/53JF-A1 $999
    CPU: i5-460M, GPU: NV GT 425M, 720p display, 500GB HDD, 4GB DDR3

    Dell XPS
    14" with NV GT 420M $899 ($999 with GT 435M)
    14" with i5-560M, NV GT 420M, 6GB DDR3 $1029
    15" with NV GT 420M $849 ($949 with GT 435M)

    Acer
    14" AS4820TG $799
     
  37. essense

    essense Notebook Evangelist

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    Spec for spec it is kinda expensive..
    hopefully when i try it out the quality will justify the price!
    but i think the 1049 N53JF-XE1 with BR and FHD is a very good deal no?
     
  38. FelixC

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    Ah, thanks, good to know!

    As for the price being attractive, I meant relative to what it seems to be going for in Europe where it's popping up - if you don't factor in customs and shipping costs, it's a lot cheaper.
     
  39. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    the xps 14 only gets the GPU upgrade (420->435) if you get the i7 option, so its not a 100 bucks price increase.
     
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    I have been following the N43 for a long time. Yes it is more expensive than the competitors, but it does have USB 3. Which in the near future will grow and grow. still don't think its worth an extra $250 compare to the Envy 14. Few other things that disappoint no chicklet keyboard and 1366x768 display. Also is the GT 425 better than AMD 5650?
    NVIDIA Geforce GT 425M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
    its pretty close
    I'm still undersided on to which one to hand over the cold hard cash for, maybe leaning towards the Envy 14 a bit
     
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    On paper the 425 and 5650 look very similar. The biggest draw for the 425M would be Nvidia's Optimus since ATI's graphics switching is not as seamless.
     
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    Available on Xotic PC starting $989 ($959 cash discount) and upgradeable

    Core i7, blu-ray, SSD, thermal compound.....

    ASUS N43JF-A1
     
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    Hi everybody, I´m going to buy the Asus N43JQ, I7 and 435, but i have some questions.

    1) is it possible to replace the keyboard with an island keyboard,(maybe backlite could be the best) like in the model that has been presented during CES10?

    2) what about the screen size? 14´´ 16:9?,I would like to replace the screen for a better led screen, like someone has done in the Dell Studio Xps 14, replacing it with a LG led screen.
     
  45. Dio

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    I was prepared to buy this notebook since we decided to return the U45JC (BUILD QUALITY) but I have a couple of things that have caused me to have a changed or heart still mulling it over, originally this notebook had a chicklet keyboard that's changed and not very thrilled with the keyboard changes.

    I got some feedback on battery life 2-3 hrs. talking to a few vendors, little on the low side especially since most of the new models have such great battery life.
    The other is, its a little on the heavy side and.

    As far as changing the Display, and keyboard who knows.
     
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    The Newegg and Xotic PC pictures don't look promising for getting an American ( ANSI) keyboard layout as you can tell the enter key is spaced as if it's a European ( ISO) layout.

    I've not seen the laptop in person. Can anyone who has verify which keyboard layout it uses?
     
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    Thanks so much for the keyboards, onthebeach77!
    At least I know which keyboard it will have =]
     
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    From the pictures the keyboards look similar, maybe the N43 keyboard is a bit taller. I can't tell exactly without the dimesions of both. But the backlit keyboard has an extra connector for the LED backlighting. You would have to do some modding to find a place to connect this. Also if you were able to mod it, the back lighting would always be on.

    n43 keyboard.jpg

    New-ASUS-U80-Backlit-LAPTOP-Keyboard-US-BLACK.jpg

    There was a discussion about adding the backlit keyboard of the U80 into the U81.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/404994-u80-backlit-keyboard-u81.html
     
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