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    Asus N81 (N81Vp-C1) available at Newegg

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Jim_J, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. Jim_J

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    wow, if the GPU is up to scratch, that's a sweet deal in a 14" form factor.
     
  3. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Cool, i only knew about gentech selling it.........buy it its worth the money.

    Make sure you buy it from Gentech too ;)
     
  4. David

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    +1 For GenTechPC! ;)
     
  6. Bryanu

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    that is nice...

    See why couldn't the G50's be like that... Be the correct size for the size of the monitor... No we got to have a notebook biger than some 17" ones that is only a 15.4", lol

    That thing is good weight and great power. It will do better than the g50v's lol


    Anyway question for you all how does the warranty work if you buy from a place like GenTechPC but pick the option to install aftermarket thermal compound? IF they put AS5 on CPU or GPU the warranty is voided because the heatsinks got removed? Anyone shed some light on that?
     
  7. Jim_J

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    Ok, Gentech wins. Outside of the fact that it is $40 cheaper and is recommended here, any company who takes the time to post those videos wins my business.
     
  8. aan310

    aan310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    That, and Gentech will help you if for some reason it comes DOA, unlike devilegg, i mean crapegg, i mean badegg, i mean... oh what ever!
     
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    Scrambledegg :D

    Yeah talk to ken he can help you out :D
     
  10. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    Asus warranty will still apply, as long as it's still the original CPU.
     
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    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Would this be the case only if the thermal compound was applied by Asus certified resellers, or does it apply to customers as well?

    I'm clarifying as the original poster asked about after market thermal compound applied by resellers.
     
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    I think that is only for ASUS certified resellers. The customers should not do any modification to the CPU-GPU area including the thermal compound replacement...


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    As long as you do not break any warranty seals your ok, you may not want to go on about how you took your computer apart to replace the TIM but Asus is not gonna cut your warranty over it. They offer the best warranty out there.

    I returned my first 1000H to them after changing the HDD & RAM, and I have sent my C90S in after drilling holes in the bottom of it and installing mesh.
     
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    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    ****This is not official*****:
    It's case by case, I deal with them all the time, usually if you just apply thermal compound yourself without swap the CPU then they won't give you hard time, they will still repair your notebook if you didn't cause any physical damage to the circuit board when applying the thermal compound.

    Also when talking to their tech always be honest of what you did to the notebook.

    But again, in official warranty policy, warranty is void if the warranty seal is broken or removed.
     
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    I should add that you have no reason to install any TIM on the CPU anyways.

    It comes with good stuff on it and you seek to gain no reward by putting AS5 or something on there.

    Desktops it may pay off for very high overclocking but you do not have that option on a notebook. Voltage or FSB will be your limit way before heat is.
     
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    I agree. :)
     
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    I have seen some re-sellers have a option of putting AS5 on the GPU, would that add any benefit?or is it just another wasted option?
     
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    Its the same, you seek to gain no benifit really, though a gpu is held back by temp a bit easier than the cpu in a notebook the chances are slim that it would make any difference, and to extract any of that benifit you would be having to go for a very high overclock and have active cooling.

    The best thing you can do is just have a decent cooling pad, thats going to do worlds more good things for your laptop than better TIM.
     
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    That is not correct!

    I got my F8Va-C1 and after some burn-in tests with wPrime, the CPU temp hit 82C [180F] (without undervolting). After disassembling the CPU heatsink I saw that the TIM was unevenly distributed and some parts of the CPU die did not even have any TIM on it. I applied some AS5 and now the CPU temp does not exceed 68C [155F] after any wPrime burn-in (again without undervolting).


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    Ok smart guy, so your temp dropped. Now tell me how that made my statement incorrect?

    You did not gain anything, wprime still performed the same did it not? Your computer is not faster now is it? The cpu is still generating the same amount of heat is it not?

    We do this in desktops because when we start to increase the voltage for a high overclock the temps get too high and cause instability your 82c temp you got under a forced 100% load is not high enough to hurt the cpu in any way.

    Plus your in the rare group of people that probably had a poorly mounted HS to start with.

    I said you wont gain anything like a higher overclock, I did not say you cant get the temp a bit lower. Learn to read before you say someone is incorrect.
     
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    I don't think you remember what you have written a few minutes ago. Now let's go over what you wrote on this page:

    "you seek to gain no reward by putting AS5 or something on there."

    Reward does not mean that you will get performance increase. Even a no brainer knows that TIM's are not for performance increase (unless the temp exceeds the critical degree and CPU starts to throttle down).

    My reward is that previously my laptop was running at 82C max. and now it is running at 68C max. Isn't this a reward???

    Now I have a cooler running machine, with a much slower and silent fan. Wouldn't you think that a fan running at 2000RPM is better compared to a fan running at 4000RPM sounding like a jet engine???

    If you have read my post, it was nothing to do with the poorly mounted HS. It was solely because of unevenly distributed (and perhaps a lower quality) TIM.

    Overall you may refresh what you understand from "gain". A cooler machine with a more silent fan is a gain for me. Performance is not everything in the mobile world. Got it?


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    I consider lack of TIM being mounted properly the same thing as a poorly mounted heat sink.

    You do make a point about fan noise though. In your case a RMA would have been appropriate as your unit was not in spec or working properly.

    The rest of us with working units really do have nothing to gain though, heat or noise included.

    They just run the risk of breaking something or making things worse.

    Your using your one of a kind out of the ordinary situation as an example and that is void, your unit was broken plain and simple and should have been RMA'ed. You choose to fix it yourself and thats fine, but you cant convey that every notebook is like that and everybody will benifit from it like you. Its quite the opposite.

    The person that would ask the question is the one that does not need to be messing with it, those of us who are experienced with this stuff are the ones that already did it without asking :p So I am just looking out for the vast majority here not somebody like you who was a special exception.

    Id be the guy that would volt mod my cpu and use liquid metal TIM and drill holes in my laptop for extra cooling. So I do gain something from it, but thats not your average case. So I would not use my own personal reasons as an example of why you should do something.

    Remember your speaking to a forum of thousands here, you have to think big picture.
     
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    Lets not get carried away people, I just wanted a simple answer, LOL

    But to be honest, you have to remove the heatsink which has the warranty sticker on it to replace the the stuff, so that in its own is offically voiding your warranty.

    What is odd is my notebook was new direct from asus tech support (sealed box and all) from a DOAR exchange and it does not have the warranty stickers in it. I have replaced my CPU and at the same time the compound.

    I asked all this because I would LIKE to replace my GPU compound but I do NOT want to void my warranty.

    I am a reseller of asus, but that stuff does not always matter to them. I did buy it elseware though because I was able to get a much better dealer...
     
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    if any one knows, where can I get this laptop in indonesia