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    Asus PL30JT

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by vaio_boi, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. vaio_boi

    vaio_boi Notebook Evangelist

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    I am creating a thread about the PL30JT

    Please feel free to post any relevant information about the newly released PL30JT...

    Although there may not be a ton of comparison points between the PL and UL, let us know which model you will be buying when the JTs are in store soon.
     
  2. rfs830

    rfs830 Notebook Evangelist

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    what is the PL30JT? Can you post some info here please?
     
  3. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    It is the business version of the UL30JT and it comes with Intel AntiTheft technology and Lojack installed. So far it has only been seen with the Core i5-520UM and not any Core i7's.
     
  4. rfs830

    rfs830 Notebook Evangelist

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    if i recall the i5 is a more powerfull then the i7 right?
     
  5. vaio_boi

    vaio_boi Notebook Evangelist

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    It will depend on the clock speeds but generally speaking, the i7 is more powerful than the i5. However, these UL/PL laptops use ULV processors so their performances are significantly decreased from normal i5/i7 processors.

    Hope that helps.
     
  6. Soulsaber

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    Why are you threatening the PL30JT?
     
  7. vaio_boi

    vaio_boi Notebook Evangelist

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    hahaha...it's fixed.
     
  8. jackpfree

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    I am SOLD on this thing is it does come with Nvidia optimus and an antiglare display. Hopefully its under $1000 like the UL30JT
     
  9. vaio_boi

    vaio_boi Notebook Evangelist

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    After only looking at laptops like Macbook pro, T410(s), Vaio Z etc., I am considering one of these CULV laptops...

    I don't own a desktop so a laptop is my one and only primary machine.

    Do you think a CULV laptop like the UL/PL will serve the purpose of a primary computer?

    I am a student and daily tasks aren't too heavy... heavy browsing, word/excel/powerpoint, finance programs, A LOT of 1080p youtube videos and movies, tv shows etc.

    I do play games a few times a week (not a hardcore gamer).

    How well will the UL/PL (ULV processor) after only using full powered CPUs?
     
  10. jackpfree

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    @vaio_boi

    well my computer i have right now is my one and only machine and it can handle all the tasks you asked about, and the PL30JT is probably a little more powerful than my machine at this point since the hardware inside is a few generations behind. Also shouldnt only 720p videos be played on a machine thats resolution is not 1080p? or does 1080p still look better
     
  11. impruv

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    Well you can always output this video to a external monitor/tv
     
  12. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Well, 1080p looks good on any size screen, and it is nice to have the power in a portable machine to be able to view it.
     
  13. AgDon

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    I wonder if asus will make a dock for this laptop.
     
  15. YESHHHH

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    no love for usb3.0?
    not that it would be a dealbreaker for me but just saying.........also wanted to post something badly.......lol
     
  17. slumpey326

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    looks nice
     
  18. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    That keyboard looked backlit to me. Maybe it was the flash from the camera.
     
  19. YESHHHH

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    I thought it was backlit at first, but I think we're just seeing the reflections of the overhead lights.
     
  20. SSJ

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    The matt display is really a good point.
    However it doesn't really look sturdy but fragile.
     
  21. ckthepilot

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    Too bad it's not backlit, quite evident from the spec list. A backlit keyboard is too important to not be included in the specs:

    [​IMG]
     
  22. Gershel

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    Let me explicit it once more:

    "Do you really missed a HUGE difference btw PL30Jt and UL30Jt or all of you just pretending? I`m SHOCKED. Here we are:

    Ul30Jt specs:

    i7-640UM/620UM CPU
    Intel GS45 Chipset
    DDR3 1066MHz up to 4Gb
    13.3" 16:9 LED display
    NVIDIA GeForce 310M 1Gb
    SATA HDD up to 640Gb

    PL30Jt specs:

    Intel Core i5-520UM(1.06GHz - up to 1.86GHz
    Intel H55M Chipset
    DDR3 1066MHz up to 4Gb
    13.3" 16:9 LED display (with glare/non-glare option)
    NVIDIA GeForce 310M 1Gb
    SATA HDD up to 640Gb

    Just a little alteration, huh?

    Open your blind eyes, UL30Jt(if specs from CES are accurate) is NOT an Intel Calpella model, PL30Jt is(if specs from CeBIT are accurate).

    Seriously speaking the UL30Jt has an "appendix" in design expressed in GS45`s 4500MHD while the 45нм Intel HD Graphics under the hood of the i7-640UM is obviously being DISABLED. Just imagine such a clumsy construction.

    But the PL30Jt, as far as I see, is a full-fledged Calpella model.

    Correct me if I`m wrong.."
     
  23. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

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    Wherever you got your UL30Jt info from, they obviously made a typo. A Core i3/5/7 processor cannot run with the GS45 chipset. Aside from the physical incompatibility of the GS45 CPU slot pin structure, there would be multiple conflicts between the CPU and chipset regarding memory controller, graphics controller, etc.
     
  24. Gershel

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    You are entirely right. I ve got the same thoughts when i saw the pics with the nameplate. But there were some instances during a history when manufacturer was able to completely change a circuitry engineering.
     
  25. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

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    Okay, but while I'm sure Asus' engineers could rework the whole system to make it functional, it does not make any sense that they would do so. So using the principle of Occam's razor, it's much more likely that there was just a typo.
     
  26. Gershel

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    Deal)

    Does anybody can provide us with fresh pics from CeBIT 2010 with the UL30Jt nameplate?(sorry for offtopic)
     
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    slumpey326 Notebook Consultant

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    ckthepilot, Yea I think your right it's probably just the light reflecting on the keyboard, I guess I was just hoping to much, I guess that moves me back to the Sony S11. To bad for Asus, looks like that is the only missing and I'm getting tired of waiting on them.
     
  29. jackpfree

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    i dont really consider backlit keyboards a dealbreaker. ive had a notebook that had a backlit keyboard and its only an issue when you need to find the first key when you begin typing in the dark
     
  30. lackofcheese

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    That's what the protrusions on the "f" and "j" keys are for.
     
  31. vaio_boi

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    Those of you who have owned a UL30 or 80, can you give some insights on the build quality and fit/finish of these laptops? I am serious about getting a JT UL or PL when it comes out but not sure of what to expect from Asus as i never owned one. Will UL/PL go on sale in big retailers? I want to see some demos but seems like Bestbuy or Futureshop near me don't have any other Asus but the gaming ones.
     
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    Despite their using the "Turbo 33" branding, I'm still not 100% convinced these new UL30vt replacements are truly overclocked. Are they overclocking, or just descibing the built in i-5's "turbo-boost?"

    If I understand correctly, with the ul30vt ASUS used 1066mhz RAM and then overclocked the CULV processor from 800mghz to 1066mhz, allowing for the 33% overclocking of the CPU (1.3->1.76mhz.)

    But the newer i5 CPU has "turbo-boost", so I'm worried that ASUS is just appropriating this standard feature so they can still say they are offering "turbo-33." The i-5UM CPU runs at 1066mhz. So are they going to use 1333 RAM and overclock and additional 33%? Will this effect the stability of the built in turbo boost? Or can they attain the same 33% overclocking while using standard 1066 RAM?

    Sorry if this is confusing, but I don't have a full understanding of what is required (beyond good cooling) for overclocking.
     
  34. Jayayess1190

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    I don't even think ulv Core i5/i7's can use DDR3-1333 ram, only the quad cores.
     
  35. cknobman

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    No news of a release date?
     
  36. slumpey326

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    nope, no release date or pricing on either the plp30jt or ul30jt.
     
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    what do you reckon the price would be on one of these, I guess because its aimed at business users they can charge a bit more than they would normally
     
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    Are you sure Asus will utilize the turbo33 on this one?? the processor already has the native intel turbo...how does teh asus 33 affect the intel turbo OC?? I am pretty confused with all this.. :confused:
     
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    @finnboy000

    maybe its overclocked by the 33, then overclocked by the turboboost accordingly
     
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    Well, the stock turbo boost already good enough. Why do you want to overclock it even more? Surely this i7 will be even better than su7300 right?
     
  44. RealPjotr

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    The point is that Asus markets and labels the UL30JT and PL30JT as having the "Turbo 33 Boost Technology". So what does it do on these two laptops?
     
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    I was always under the impression that ASUS was doing its own overclocking on top of whatever was happening within the CPU. I don't think the CPU in JT is more than 33% faster than SU7300 at the same clock, otherwise UL30VT-A1 will be faster than JT when plugged in.

    Anyone?
     
  46. finnboy000

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    I doubt that, it would run very fast after that. i7 620UM would oc to something like 2,5 Ghz single core mode. But soon (hopefully :cool:) we'll find out!
     
  47. RealPjotr

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    The i7 640UM is 1.2 GHz with Intel boost to 2.26 GHz single core. If Asus adds 33% to this, you get 3 GHz. I don't beleive this. I would think there is no Turbo 33 from Asus on UL30JT/PL30JT, that it's been replaced by the built-in Intel overclocking. Remember also that the Intel built-in version also overclocks the Intel graphics core in Arrendale. I can't see Asus messing around with this.
     
  48. finnboy000

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    Good point.. maybe they just advertise the intel boost as the turbo33...but there wouldn't be any point in that either :D confusing..it is always the same situation with all marketing (nvidia naming etc.)
     
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    If any of you have read anything on overclocking the Arrandale desktop processors you know that is it perfectly doable and safe to increase the stock speed and still have the intel turbo boost active at the same time as long as you dont go over a certain thermal threshold.

    Asus should most definitely be able to bump the stock speed 33% and keep the turbo active.
     
  50. RealPjotr

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    What are you saying?

    1) 1.2*1.33=1.6 GHz "stock" while retaining 2.26 GHz "boost"?

    2) 1.2*1.33=1.6 GHz "stock" and 2.26*1.33=3.0 GHz "boost"?

    In 1), what's the point? The dual core boost is already 1.86 GHz and single core is 2.26 GHz.

    In 2), that's not anywhere "safe", running 33 % overclock... and power use will go above the 18W spec, lowering battery time.
     
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