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    Asus Prepping "Stealth" Styled Attack On M11x @Computex?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by vikingrinn, May 27, 2010.

  1. Late666

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    so thats it ?! they wont announce anything ?
    i really want to buy something like m11x made by Asus :(
     
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    Oh boy, here we go again... Check the M11x forums from all the nay sayers that don't own or even used an M11x. SU7300 handles pretty much every modern game to date. Any game that doesn't perform well needs a beefy 15" anyhow to run. You're not going to get a quad core in this form factor, period, either.

    For all intents and purposes the M11x is a 13" notebook. That's the one thing I'm confused about is why they didn't put in at least a 12.1" screen if not a 13.3". Otherwise it's still more powerful than any 13" or smaller notebook.
     
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    I'm in for one. My G71V-Q1 is starting to show its age when it comes to gaming and because I travel 100% for work (own my own software consulting business), I want to go to something smaller.

    I have plenty of power in my desktop rig, but need something slightly more portable than a 17" for travel and LANs.

    I would love to see this before QuakeCon and would be willing to pre-pay to get to the front of the line.

    I had been eyeing the G51JH, but wanted more GPU power. With the capability of running 16GB of DDR3, I can do a lot more with my work VMs.

    Kudos to Asus if they can get this to market soon.
     
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    I'm glad the g53 has the options of different screens. I'd take a nice core i5 and a HD screen (FHD is too heavy for your gpu + any game like crysis anyway). If the cooling will be decent and the price will be 200-300€ less than the current m15x (which costs €1600 with a moderate config) I might consider one for my "studies" xD
     
  8. Cpt.Zero

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    damn i was really praying hard for the asus gods to make a 11inch laptop or upgrade their VX3 with a meaner and wicked GPU and this battle is over hehehe
     
  9. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Incorrect ... Acer 3820TG 13.3" - I7-620M - HD 5650

    Bronsky :cool:
     
  10. Vaio Z Power

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    I wanted a asus 13" gaming!

    damn
     
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    Where can I buy one in the USA?
     
  12. Late666

    Late666 Notebook Consultant

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    Not available yet in the US. You can get the i7, 5650, 640GB, 4GB 13" model only in singapore AFAIK at this time..
     
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    I rest my case....
     
  14. Late666

    Late666 Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah you're right, if it's not in america it doesn't exist :D
     
  15. Cpt.Zero

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    lol now wheres is this thread going?

    hmmm better trash this thread and close because asus has not been prepping a stealth styled attack on m11x @ computex :p

    maybe asus try your luck next computex lol
     
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    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    Wrong, it is also available in some European countries.
     
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    patrickgerry2 Notebook Guru

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    This I got to see. If there is any laptop maker that can give AW a run for its money its asus.
     
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    Well, no, if it's not in America it's not an option for any American. I can say the best sports car is in Germany but if I can't buy it in the USA, it means nothing to me if I'm in the market for the best sports car.
     
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    the buzzkill on the rumored "stealth" styled M11x competition is from asus themselves at this point - as nothing other than 15" announced at computex, so... :rolleyes:
     
  20. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    Even if Asus was developing an alternative to the m11x...I'd still choose a M11x because the design and mechanics are already proven. The FX lighting also is sick!!

    I saw the M11x at Bestbuy for 899.99 without Bluetooth. I had a hard time not buying it....instead I used my money for a M17x w/5870M in Crossfire.

    One day I will own a M11x :)
     
  21. DCx

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    It's first gen hardware. It has only been "proven" because it's been out awhile, and it still gets mighty hot...
     
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    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    Man you love to counter me just for the sake of countering....lol.
    The unit that I saw wasn't under load but at idle it was cooler than your a1

    Why do Asus owners discredit other manufacturers offerings? I like competition. If another manufacturer produces a better unit for a reasonable price then I welcome it.

    Would I buy the Asus offering for a comparable M11x alternative? Probably not.

    While ordering my M17x I was given an additional 300.00 off. I'm sure that in some small way Asus's slick marketing/manufacturing led to Dell giving discounts.

    Competition is good.


    Isn't the G73JH first gen hardware?
    Look at all the success/problems that were having with our current model.
     
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    Hot? Where'd you get this info? Mine runs cool as a cucumber.
     
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    @Skygunner: Did you use an employee discount too?

    Having per-customer pricing, the way dell does it, is great for business but horrible for consumers. Why not standardize prices? I agree competition is good, but companies will try to build brand image and loyalty ... and raise their prices accordingly (Like alienware).

    Almost every computer dell releases that is half-way powerful has problems in their first gen. Including the M11x. Asus has the benefit of being an OEM with decent support ... dell? Well ... we can agree to disagree.

    But when I buy a similarly spec'd system from asus (rather than from dell) for 50% of the price, and get a longer warranty *AND* english speaking tech support, I'm liable to think that people buy alienware for the same reason people buy apple - they have some notion about what alienware is, and it isn't generally based on fact.

    As for the problems in the g73? I had a problem in my first g73. I returned it and got a replacement that runs great. I'm not whining about it, and if everyone did the same thing, then there would be no "problems" on the forum, there'd be one thread that said "If this happens, RMA".

    I read it here.

    I'm not saying it's not a great machine, I'd like to have one instead of my n10j (which is pretty handy). But my n10j doesn't even get warm. I know it's a different class of machine, but I'm basically saying that given the choice (and my experience with dell) I'd choose asus. Or any other brand (HP, even).
     
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    I'm quite familiar with exchanges...lol. I'm on my 3rd G73JH. Obviously you haven't held a M11x or M17x in your hands and have had the opportunity to use these machines. The quality is second to none.

    Standard Prices would be nice. But I believe that it's worth it for what your getting at full price. I think Dell has great customer service. I've even had them send over the geek squad to fix a previous XPS screen that I owned. No RMA needed.

    I'm not saying that Asus makes bad products. But from my experience with the G51(2), G71(1) and G73JH(3) I've seen a consistant trend of problems and issues straight out of the box.


    If your impressed with Asus then I'm happy for you. I currently am satisfied after the 209 bios with my G73JH. Thank GOD my keyboard backlighting still works!! But if you think Asus is on par with the build quality of Alienware then you are truly in a world of your own.

    Outside of Alienware the G73JH is a decent machine with the 209 bios(with working backlighting) and no GSOD/PSOD.
     
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    This sounds SWEET!!!
     
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    until Asus improves their customer support they are not a viable option for me.
     
  28. skygunner27

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    Asus's customer support is the worse I've ever seen.
     
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    I dunno, I haven't noticed it yet. Plus when you said hot I thought you meant CPU and GPU temps were high, but far from it. Just seems heat gets transferred to the chassis, so its physically hot to the touch. Like I said, I haven't noticed anything noticable. But then again, I always use it for gaming on a table and not in my lap.
     
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    I've only had to do one RMA, but my experience with them was very good.
     
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    I'm glad you had a good experience with Asus RMA :) I wouldn't wish that awful level of service that I encountered on my worst enemy. Mine went to Indiana for RMA.

    I'll buy a brand new PC before I go through Asus RMA again.
    REAL ****.
     
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    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    I guess California is the place to be, then, haha.

    But damn our sales taxes.
     
  33. David

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    I've heard quite a few horror stories coming from the Indiana facility. However, the Fremont, California is a different story. If you have to RMA an Asus laptop in the future, make sure you request to have it shipped to the Fremont facility.
     
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    Oh, they're in Fremont? That's less than a twenty-five minutes drive for me.

    Should've just brought it to them in person instead of mailing it, haha.
     
  35. Cpt.Zero

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    kinda pointless is this thread right now because there is no stealth styled asus laptop that they are prepping with the same m11x category in computex.
     
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    Perhaps Dell gives you great service if you buy a $4000 laptop from them. Try getting great service when you buy a $1500 one from them, though. I had to send it back, got told I was getting a restocking fee that could be waived if I got a different unit (the entire line I purchased suffered from problems) and they recommended a unit that was $600 more.

    When I pointed that out, they said they'd give me a tonne of money off, and an extra long warranty... on the base model, which ended up being slightly less expensive than the one I purchased.

    Do I really want to deal with a company that does a bait/switch routine over the phone? If I wasn't paying attention, I've have screwed myself over. Do I want to deal with a company that sells me a faulty product then charges me to return it? Or a company that charges $200-$300 for accidental damage coverage that comes standard with ASUS laptops?

    I've used an m15x. It's a very, very nice computer, and feels quite solid. Also, it looks like a 12 year old designed it with crayons and stickers, and costs 2x what I'm buying from asus.

    I don't need a super-reinforced chassis, I know I'm not supposed to drop my computer on the ground and I expect it to break if it does. With dell, it might survive because of the chassis. Or it might not. Or it might damage something inside that I don't notice, and then I'll get screwed for warranty work. With asus, I get a free replacement (and likely upgrade, because of their product cycle). And their warranties are the most relaxed that I know of - What other PC manufacturer lets you do everything except change the CPU and still cover you under warranty? And the sticker asus uses to "secure" the CPU from tampering? It hasn't been difficult to remove and replace on any of the 5 asus computers I've owned over time.

    Long story short: If you've got money to burn, an alienware laptop is a great purchase. If you can't afford it, get an ASUS. Not quite as fancy, but all the essentials are there... no multicoloured lights on the keyboard, but I'll save the $1500 upgrade and just get an asus.
     
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    Thats why I buy online. I guess now it reveals where I live.
     
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    I still get hit with sales tax if I buy from California-based online merchants, like Newegg.
     
  41. skygunner27

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    I'm glad that you are satisfied with your Asus.

    Currently I'm awaiting my M17x w/5870M's in Crossfire. I'm also budgeting so I can purchase a M11x by the end of the month.
    Who knows maybe I'll wait for an M11x i refresh.

    I agree with you. If you are looking for a bare bones alternative then look no further than what you've already got. No USB 3.0, No Esata Ports, No Express slot, No raid etc.....

    I will easily admit that the G73JH is a nice unit. I enjoy mine everyday. I think that the 5870M's in crossfire is a huge improvement for FullHD gaming.

    By the time I get my M17x I think I would care less about all this 480M GTX hype.
     
  42. IKAS V

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    I've read that some members who have gotten there XF 5870 AW laptops say it's not worth the upgrade over XF 4870.
    Only about a 10% performance upgrade, not sure if it's drivers or a BIOS issue but so far not a big deal.
    I always liked single card setups more anyway.
     
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    Hopefully in the next gen graphics, ATi will finally implement SidePort, at least I think that's what they nicknamed.

    The whole point of doing CrossFire in alternate frame rendering mode (AFR) is that the chips never have to talk. The minute you have to start synchronizing them, you kill performance. Sideport was supposed to alleviate that.

    This pretty much makes 2 cards into 1 card. So you can imagine how much better this would be over CF or SLI, it was in the plans for 5xxx series but was removed in order to make deadlines etc.

    SidePort is Carrell's little baby, so don't think this will go away, and if it appears in the next gen, will make those dual GPU fans really happy.
     
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    That's lame :mad:
    How much is the performance gain over a single 5870M?

    I hope I atleast gain better performance in FPS with AA at 1920 x 1200.
     
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    Look for JOKER's review in the AW section( sorry I lost the link) but he says it's not worth the upgrade over the 4870's
    And he's all about AW.
     
  46. Partizan

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    Thats good to know since the 4870's now cost €120 less comapred to the 5870's. But then again, when planning on using a laptop for 3 years one might aswell buy direct x11 cards...
     
  47. skygunner27

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    I'd still like to have some comparisons of the difference in performance between a single 5870 and 2 5870's in crossfire.

    I agree.
     
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