Asus U35JC/U45JC

That's only 1 part of the equation. You also need to know his average discharge rate (mW) to get a good estimate of battery life.

 

Yes, U33 is better. Since U33 does not use a keyboard tray, there is no flex.

 

I didn't take a very close look at the screens, but the demo running on the unit looked fine from 2 feet away.

 

Thanks. That's what I thought would be the case.

 

I'll need to head to Nova again later this week. Will take a closer look. If anyone else have questions, feel free to list them out here.

PS: I'm not going to answer questions about weight. All three feel about the same to me and I'm not about to carry a scale into the store

 

LOL! Come on! You know you want to!

 

Wouldn't work anyway. All three notebooks will weight more than spec, since the retailers in Taipei wrap as much of the notebook in plastic as possible

The Acer is definitely very competitive, but I need to try out the keyboard a bit more. Plus the keyboard design looks like a heaven for tiny bits of dirt and hair, probably not suitable for someone with pets...like me.

 

Another review:

Asus U35JC review | Expert Reviews

Hardly extensive but very positive nonetheless.

 

I wonder what the battery capacity was on this unit. (nearly) 10 hours sounds awesome. I thought I'd read to expect closer to 7 hours.

 

Mine consistently shows 6-7 hours on quite office and 10 hours when on battery saving mode.

 

If you're quoting times from the battery icon on your Microsoft toolbar, then they're hardly accurate.

You're better off installing BatteryBar (free) and quoting those times instead.

 

im using batterycare, so far so good for me in monitoring battery state..

 

I'm not looking for a discharge rate. I'm not into the fancy math part. I'll leave that to the engineers on this thread.

I merely wanted to be sure he's working with the standard 5600 or 5800mAh 84W battery and not the smaller 4400mAh that has gotten into some of the non-US or Canadian models at times.

 

LOL! Nothing fancy about it! Simply divide the battery capacity by the discharge rate (make sure your units are the same) to get the estimated battery life in hours.

I see your point about determining which capacity battery he has, given the different batteries coming with models.

 

1 more week!

 

And such formulas are generally useless to me here (I've seen them repeated often enough) because most people aren't aware of how much power they're drawing at different times. Brightness affects it. Web use affects it. Flash on a web page affects it. Speed of the CPU affects it (which on most settings will go up and down all by itself). Amount of HDD access affects it. ... You get my point. For all of the fancy formulas, I doubt anyone is really using it in real time, due to so many factors affecting it ... as well as the battery mAh and Watts.

So I was merely asking what size the battery was to determine if he had a larger or smaller one.

His question was why he wasn't getting over 5 hrs use when others like Boriskov is quoting 10 hrs.

 

I have a quick question about either one of these laptops. I am looking to buy a new laptop for school that I will most likely carry around 5 days a week around campus. Right now it is between either one of these laptops and the m11x. I want something that is capable of gaming every now and then when I might travel but since I mainly do most of my gaming on my xbox I don't need amazing looking graphics on the laptop. Will either the u35jc/u45jc be able to support playing some of the newer games with the graphics lowered?

Also I was wondering how the u45jc might handle a blu-ray drive? I see that xoticpc.com has an option to add a blu-ray drive and since I own quite a few blu-rays it would be nice to be able to play on the road.

Thanks

 

That's exactly why I also bought a Yadi transparent keyboard protector from PCHome. Its designed specifically for the 3820TG.

 

And if you had BatteryBar installed it would calculate your discharge rate by incorporating all those elements you mentioned.

Then its a simple matter of calculating battery life.

 

Yes, and I use BatteryMon.

But it still won't answer his question of why he is only getting 5 hrs out of his battery. Quoting battery formulas won't help him in the slightest. Nor will suggesting he use a different battery monitor.

 

Of course using BatteryBar will.

He can monitor his discharge rate and the experiment with changing different settings on his laptop. That way, he can discover what's responsible for the shortened battery life.

It's really not that complicated to do. The trick is to think logically about the problem.

 

Blu-ray
I have the U30Jc and an external slim USB blu-ray drive. It plays blu-rays just fine, as long as I have a blu-ray compatible player like WinDVD 2010 or PowerDVD 9 Ultra or higher (WinDVD 9 Plus will also play blu-ray, as will ArcSoft's TotalMedia Theatre 3 Platinum.)

The internal i3-350M or 370M are very capable processors.

nV310M & Gaming
As for the 310M and newer games (keeping in mind that the 210M is nearly identical in the core to the 310M), see these articles:
Asus UL30VT Gaming Benchmarks
Asus UL30VT Overclocking Guide (Nvidia 210M)
AnandTech: U30Jc Gaming Performance

The short version is "yes", the 310M will run most modern games in low to medium settings (mostly low).

Of course, the nVidia 335M and the ATI HD5650 are similar in performance and both run at about twice the graphic power of the 310M.

 

Yes, BatteryMon and most all battery monitors will do the same.

And all of that is meaningless if you're not sure he is using the same capacity battery as Boriskov.

 

Is there a black version of this laptop?

The only ones I see available are silver...

 

This question had been asked and answered many times~ There's the U35F available in black on Amazon.com. Other than that all the U35jc in North America are in silver as of now.

 

Why are you fixated on constantly mentioning ascertaining the battery capacity?

I'd already acknowledged that it was also necessary to have that piece of information, along with the discharge rate, just 1 page prior to this one.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/490903-asus-u35jc-u45jc-92.html#post6600713

If you're going to debate just for the sake of debating, then count me out. I've got more important things to do.

 

Yes, you're right. It's not worth bothering about.

So, bankergolfer, where did you order the 3820TG from? I'd heard they were very hard to impossible to get shipped into the US.

 

I'm surprised that so many people want these in black! I think it looks better at first, but you have to keep in mind that the black surface will most likely catch fingerprints unless the palmrest is more textured than it is glossy.

 

Agreed! I think the silver looks great and I wouldn't even want it in black if it was an option. I love how the silver frame offsets with the black monitor.

I cannot wait for my U35JC to ship!!

 

i like silver too, but too bad whn i bought this u35jc, they only got black, sigh...

the lid is so fingerprint magnet >.<

 

I do find it rather strange that Asus are so arbitrary about what color options they make available depending on the country you live in. Not to mention the slightly different models and components used. Here in the UK you can only get the U35jc in black, there is no F model and certainly no U45Jc. Maybe Asus are taking a leaf out of Mr Fords book "You can have it in any color you like as long as it's black!". Having seen the black model here in stores I can tell you that yes the palm rest is textured enough to prevent fingerprints from showing up and the whole unit looks amazing in black! The stores also have the whole Acer Timeline X xxxxTG line which are aluminium/silver. IMO the acers don't look nearly as good as the U35jc in it's uber sexy black get up! It really does stand out from the crowd. Your eyes are drawn straight to it. Oh and the keyboard on the acers.... *shudder*

 

It sure beats the brown of the ASUS N82.

That goes up there with "What were they thinking?"

I like the dark grey matte finish of the Acer 3820TG. It's my avatar pic.

Sweet huh?

 

no full on user reviews? I would like to request a video review if its not too demanding =(

 

Ok installed BatteryBar, will post up some screenshots showing battery details tonight after work. Also have something interesting to share that I discovered through the Nvidia control panels regarding GPU/GPU Memory/Shader clocks....

 

I ordered the U35JC from Lambdatek yesterday, they estimated 9-10 working days for delivery to Greece. I'll post some impressions as soon as I get it. Thanks to everyone for all the help I got from this thread

 

Great! I bet you have a discharge rate of -25 mW or greater.

Did you discover that the Nvidia GPU is overclocked/overvolted out of the gate? That's be the opposite of the HP ENvy 14's GPU being underclocked out of the gate.

 

A little difficult for those of us in the USA to do, seeing as it hasn't been released yet here.

 

Just saw this on youtube.

I ordered a U35JC from directdial. Man I hope it doesn't have a French Canadian keyboard.

 

That is one glossy screen and one shiny chrome trackpad unibar.

Those 2 usb ports on the right side look a little too close to each other. Could be a tight fit depending on the size of the items using the ports at the time.

 

Ghost117,
Thanks for the rep point. Glad to be of service to you!

 

Ok as promised here is the data from BatteryBar, this was on high performance mode.

 

That's a relatively low discharge rate for high performance mode. Are you running anything else in the background when you took that pic?

I assume you're on the IGPU, right?

By the way, do you have the standard battery? How much does your laptop weigh (in lbs.)?

 

Here is the GPU info, all of the stock figures are less than what Quatro quoted his U30JC came with (See here - http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/496991-overclocking-nvidia-310m-under-optimus.html)



It would also appear that on the stock drivers using the Nvidia control panel I am not able to increase the clock speeds as much -



Quatro went from stock to this -

The 310M stock speeds were:
Core: 625 vs Mine 606
Memory: 790 vs Mine 667
Shaders: 1530 vs Mine 1468

Quatro was able to overclock to this:
Core:764
Memory: 921
Shaders: 1721

 

Ok, I just retested by cycling back through the power profiles and it has stabilized at idle to this -



I honestly can't give you a weight because i don't have any scales, but I believe it is the standard battery. I'll pull it out and check a bit later.

 

Yes, that looks more reasonable a discharge rate. You can see how you're using 20 mW per hour. With a total capacity of 88mW, that gives you almost 4.5 hrs of battery life, assuming you keep this discharge constant.

Keep monitoring your discharge rate and see where you can cutback on using power.

See? Calculating your battery life is not as complicated as others would have you believe.

Good job!

 

From your GPU pic, it looks like your PCI bus rate is half (x8) what it should be (x16).

You may want to update your Nvidia GPU drivers. That should fix your inability to max out your clock speeds.

While not every GPU can overclock to the same levels, your clocks are below the max that they could achieve.

 

Am I the only one who notices the comp in the youtube video is all black? Seems like there's another option than the U35f? This is the first time I've seen a U35jc in all black, never in retailers or even reviews.

Direct Dial shows shipments of U35jc-a1 models arriving in their warehouses (Canada) as early as 8/23 so at least we know when the'll be on the continent.

U35JC-A1 - Canada : U35jc-a113.3in/ I3-370m/w7hp - Product Details

I've not seen actual dates for any other retailer. I'd expect the 26 ordered by Direct Dial are already spoken for through preorders.

 

Hey Chanda bear,

Looks like I was right about the later release date of the U35jc (unfortunately).

 

Like others here, I have been agonizing over deciding on a model from either the UL or U series of laptops. I have read through much of this thread and just thought I would get some advice from the posters here. I start med school in a couple weeks and want a laptop that is light, smallish, and has enough battery life to last through a day of school. I tried my friend's netbook, but its horrid screen resolution and inability to play anything but the lowest res videos without stutter put me off. I don’t game, but I would like to have the ability to watch 720p or 1080p without any stuttering or other issues. Would the options with discrete graphics be more than I need for this use? As far as the processor goes, I just want something that would provide for fairly heavy multitasking (maybe a handful of browser tabs, word, antivirus, etc.) without becoming slow and unresponsive. Lately, I have been focusing on the U35JC because the processor is (at least according to rank on notebookcheck.net) so far above the SU7300. How much exactly does the battery life differ between the U35JC and the UL30A or UL30VT? I know Quatro says he gets about 7-8 on his U30JC using it the way I think I would (browser, word, wifi). Is this much less than I could expect with the UL30A or VT (assuming the 5600mah battery on these as well)? So basically my questions are these:

1. Should I forgo the discrete graphics if my only use for it is HD video?
2. Would I notice a significant difference between the SU7300 and i3-370M in general responsiveness and how quickly programs open?
3. About how much battery time would I forgo for a model with the i3-370M?

Any insight you could provide would be much appreciated. It’s hard to decide because I don’t want to make a decision and then realize later that I could have gotten something that would provide a much better experience for close to the same price.

 

Yea, my U30Jc on high performance, wifi on (no flash) & 50% brightness shows -12,400-13,500 mW discharge rate . . . it does fluctuate a lot as likely the CPU is adjusting its power consumption.

On battery saving mode, it shows a -9,675-10,800 mW discharge rate. Bounces around a lot (as a number) but does stay within certain parameters.