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    Asus U36SD-A1 is now available for pre-ordering at GenTech, price is even cheaper than U36JC

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by sl0519, Jun 3, 2011.

  1. RWUK

    RWUK Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for your reply. The acpi call I have no problem with as long as it works, I can turn it into a startup script and the distro itself doesn't try to install any Nvidia stuff.

    Here's a crazy question, what about pulling the entire GPU out? I'd be opening it up to repaste anyway. The OS would never know it's there anyway and unless BIOS freaks out about it or the board is soldered in, could be a last resort.
     
  2. wicketr

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    Curious how the i3 would do in this computer (heat and battery life wise).
     
  3. wicketr

    wicketr Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ken, not sure if you have an U36SD to test with, but can you get the underside and vent temperatures with the stock i5 2410M using your "BBQ Thermometer" (haha). I'm curious how hot my lap will be with it run at full load and at idle. :eek:
     
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    No I don't have U36SD to test yet, I'll do the test when the shipment arrives.

    But I did some more tests on U31SD with 2820QM CPU.

    CPU only throttle when running Prime + Furmark at the same time:
     

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  5. RWUK

    RWUK Notebook Evangelist

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    Heh, by 'throttling', you mean only reducing by about 100 mhz on 3 cores, and on an i7. Nice. Timelines and Macbooks are throttling down to 1.2 Ghz on the i5. :eek:

    How much headroom does this leave for turbo to kick in? On that quad core already at 2.7 Ghz, will the thermals allow much to happen at the full 3.4 Ghz?

    Still, goooo Asus!
     
  6. GenTechPC

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    First it was at around 3.1GHz and when CPU gets hotter it was bouncing between 2.4GHz~2.6GHz but never below 2.4Ghz.

    It never get to full 3.4GHz when it was just running Prime, but on normal use it goes up to 3.4GHz and 798MHz when laptop is at idle.
     
  7. mister_b

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    If I recall correctly, it would only go up to 3.4 if a single core needs to be used. So if you run prime on multiple cores, it caps out differently. This is for power reasons I assume.

    I think that the max turbo boost is likely never reached on a windows system, but I haven't found a test of this.
     
  8. aout

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    Any chance to find a U36SD with a low voltage processor ?
     
  9. Ugcop

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    Looks like we finally have a believable available date. It has been a long wait but 12 days and counting down.
     
  10. F-Forward

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    Most of the swedish retailers has changed their delivery dates to the end of august :(
     
  11. sl0519

    sl0519 Notebook Consultant

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    wow I just noticed that the CPU configuration has options of Quad core....thats insane in a 19mm thin laptop...
     
  12. simplenotebook

    simplenotebook Newbie

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    anyone know if this laptop can do dual monitor out not including the screen itself?
     
  13. sl0519

    sl0519 Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone know if white U36SD will be available in the US?
    White looks absolutely gorgeous!
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  14. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    Availability for any Asus model completely depends on what Asus NA Fremont decides to import for the North American market. Historically, they have only imported white in the Eee line and passed on any all-white notebooks (exc the W1 back in the mid '00s) so I wouldn't count on it.

    Further, since they've already imported the U36 in black it's highly unlikely that they'll go back and request white for this market ... simple reason is that white notebooks have never sold in sufficient volume to warrant importing them at the minimum quantities that must be brought in. The public overall shies away from white systems, and Asus ends up with product they either can't move or are forced to take back from resellers who can't get rid of them.
     
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    lastdon Notebook Evangelist

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    I wonder why the battery life from review sites seems a lot better on the
    U31SD vs the U36SD -


    Not sure about you guys but the quick heating that this notebook suffers even with the i5 is kind of worrisome no?
     
  17. BJ1888

    BJ1888 Notebook Guru

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    U31SD's base battery is 6Cells : 4400 mAh 47 Whrs
    U36SD's base battery is 4Cells : 3100 mAh 44 Whrs

    they both have 8 cell batteries listed on asus.com, but if they're using the flush-fitting batteries, there'd be a difference.
     
  18. lastdon

    lastdon Notebook Evangelist

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    But the thing that has me going on making my decision is why it heats up so much ( the 36SD ) well from that one review that is, vs the 31SD which notebookreview reviewed seemed cool.

    Also laptopmag reviewwed the U31SD and it seemed not to bad..

    Actual Depth on the 31SD is small vs the U36 , but the u36SD makes it up with a lower height!

    augh decisions
     
  19. toastypbj

    toastypbj Newbie

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    I have been lurking on this thread for quite some time now anticipating the U36SD-A1 release here in the USA.
    I've stumbled across something exciting! Take a look at this screenshot from Amazon.

    When I click that link it gives me the standard Amazon 404 page. Looks like Amazon should have a page up soon! Looking forward to this! :D
     
  20. AdreeN

    AdreeN Notebook Consultant

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    hmmhmmmmm, what stands out with this lappy? it's .7" smaller then the u46sv, but it has a 520m vs 540m?
    besides it actually available to public right now.
     
  21. vongola27

    vongola27 Notebook Guru

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    For those interested about getting a quad core cpu inside the asus u36sd... I just got a reply back from asus and they say that upgrading to quad core is not recommended and could lead to problems. Though they didnt go to detail on what problems. But you can still go for upgrade if you want. Its all up to you.
     
  22. pjc123

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    That comes as no surprise given this thread. Well, there goes another laptop that I was interested in. The last one was the Lenovo X220, but after seeing the ton of problems reported with it, that one was scratched off my list as well. Will someone ever make a quality ultraportable with an i7 processor?
     
  23. Benchmade 42

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    What you mean there goes another laptop you was interested in? Original A1 version of U36SD works and tested well with the i5-2410 and you are complaining and scratching it on your list because you didn't know it beforehand?

    If you need an i7 so much why not wait for the LG 13" or get a Sony Vaio SB 13" with the 2630qm.
     
  24. dragone7e

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    Does anyone know what kind of SATA connector does it have? I? II? or even III?
     
  25. wicketr

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    You do realize it's nearly impossible to put an i7 into an enclosure that small without melting everything around it, right? Want to get mad? Get mad at Intel for making CPUs that get so hot. As soon as Intel can figure out how to make an i7 that retains a low enough temperature, you'll see them in more devices, including ultraportables.
     
  26. vongola27

    vongola27 Notebook Guru

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    Haha. Theres also the i7-2620m if you want an i7 that badly.. but it aint no quad core if that's what you're lookin for.
     
  27. pjc123

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    Well, apparently you have not been following this thread.

    1) It was actually posted earlier that there are bad heat issues even with the i5-2410 in the u36sd.

    Asus U36SD / U36S review – what an ultra-portable notebook!

    2) Yet XOTICPC and GENTECH pc are offering top notch higher wattage i7 processors in this laptop. So, originally I was very interested because I like ASUS's very good quality track record with their laptops, yet I was suspicious of such a custom configuration. So now that ASUS has verified my thoughts that the i7 should not be put into this laptop, yes now it is definitely off my list. This is obviously a marketing ploy by these pc suppliers to gain customer market share. I imagine that in short time these high end processor offerings will either be removed from the configuration choices on their web sites or there will be a lot of burnt up u36sd laptops in landfills across the world.

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    XOTICPC
    ASUS U36SD-A1

    Processor

    2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-2410M, 2.3-2.9GHz, (32nm, 3MB L3 cache) (Does not support DDR3 1600MHz Ram)
    2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-2410M, 2.3-2.9GHz, (32nm, 3MB L3 cache) (Does not support DDR3 1600MHz Ram)
    2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache) (Does not support DDR3 1600MHz Ram) ( PRICE REMOVED )
    2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM, 2.2-3.3GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache) ( PRICE REMOVED )
    2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2820QM, 2.3-3.4GHz, (32nm, 8MB L3 cache) ( PRICE REMOVED )
    2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2920XM, 2.5-3.5GHz, (32nm, 8MB L3 cache) ( PRICE REMOVED )

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    GENTECH PC
    GenTech PC - Customize System

    Processor

    Intel 2nd Generation Core i5-2410M, 2.3-2.9GHz,32nm, 3MB, 35W
    2nd Gen Intel Core i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz,32nm, 6MB, 45W [PRICE REMOVED]
    2nd Gen Intel Core i7-2720QM, 2.2-3.3GHz,32nm, 6MB, 45W [PRICE REMOVED]
    2nd Gen Intel Core i7-2820QM, 2.3-3.4GHz,32nm, 8MB, 45W [PRICE REMOVED]
     
  28. viperabyss

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    To be honest, I don't know who wrote that rubbish U36SD review you posted. Apparently 80C is considered "overheat"? If that's the case, wouldn't almost everybody (including Apple's, where MBP users have reported in excess of 90C under intensive application) has this "overheating" problem?

    When gaming, especially intensive game like MW2 tested, the GPU can easily get to 80C. This does not mean the laptop is overheating. U36SD with a GT520M also shouldn't be used as a gaming machine if its primary purpose is to game. There are other options with much better specification and cooling capacity than that.

    Now, onto your post, it is true that some vendors do offer to put a full fledged quad core into an ultraportable like U36SD, doesn't mean it makes sense. However, if you want quad core in the form factor of U36SD, it is better for you to adjust your expectation (since nobody at the moment offers quad core in an ultraportable), or simply wait for Ivy Bridge.
     
  29. dkukade

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    anyone get one yet?
     
  30. Ugcop

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    You would think that if Gentech is going to ship Friday that they already know their shipment is enroute.
     
  31. nwadams

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    It probably means its been delayed again
     
  32. simplenotebook

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    I'm still wondering if this laptop can dual monitor out not including the laptop screen itself. do the older optimus models support that?
     
  33. jacob_s

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    Where does one acquire said laptop? :) Last I checked, the highest Sony offered in the S series was the i7-2620M (dual core). Of course, if it is available, especially with the graphics card, I'm sold!
     
  34. aout

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    God, why the hell would you want a quad core in such a laptop ? You would just kill it.

    Anyway, i'm still looking for a ultra low voltage CPU. Gentech, XotiPC, any chance you will supply these chips one day :( ?
     
  35. aout

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    You guys have to realize one day that :

    Unless you are encoding videos on a daily basis (well, if it is your job), you have no reason to buy an i7 over an i5. Even if you are a gamer, the bottleneck will never ever be the CPU.

    And in both cases, you have no reason to buy a 13.3'

    This laptop has been made for people that need mobility, that need a laptop not because they want to impressed their friends by saying "HEY GUYS LOOK AT MY 13.3' I GOT A SUPER i7 IT IS SUPER FAST WHEN I WANT TO OPEN EXCEL", but because they need to move from offices to offices, because they work remotely and they need battery life, and also because when they come back home after work they want to be able to watch a HD video, or to play a little bit.
     
  36. Ugcop

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    We are down to three days until ship day on the 12th if Gentech is correct.
     
  37. jacob_s

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    You do realize that there are more uses for a computer than gaming, Excel, and video encoding, correct? I completely agree, ultraportables should not be gaming rigs - you pay a premium for the size and get a trash screen to boot. Plus, the form factor usually has trouble dissipating the heat. However, people like myself would actually like a quadcore processor in an ultraportable since I need mobility as a student, but I also need to run a variety of software that can utilize all the cores: MATLAB, various GIS software, Creative Suite, and various compilers, and virtual machines. Video power is of no consequence to me, as I have a desktop for that kind of work :)
     
  38. Janne303

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    here in sweden we got one u36sd model out in stores :D
     
  39. mister_b

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    any news from gentech? Is the august 12th date their shipping date? Do they already have them in? What about custom changes? questions questions questions! haha, if you can't tell, I've already ordered and just really want to get my grubby paws on it!
     
  40. jacob_s

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    Hey guys, I normally am more thorough on reading through these threads, but I admit I just skimmed about half of it. Are there any thoughts on how the screen will fare in terms of quality? This, and the MSI x460 seem to be the two contenders in my mind right now, but with NVidia graphics this has potential (even though Quad Core is not recommended). However, nobody has said a word about viewing angles, colors, contrast, brightness, etc. on these two machines, and it's fairly important to me (otherwise I would have just ordered a Vaio SA a long time ago lol). I can live with 1366 so long as it's a decent panel.
     
  41. Colpolite

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    With a little bit of effort on researching in google, you will find tons of reviews on u36jc being reviewed by NBR and other sites.
     
  42. jacob_s

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    Are these supposed to be similar, because if so I'm rather disappointed :-(

    According to NotebookCheck, from a techincal perspective it's actually slightly worse (dimmer on average, lower contrast ratios) than the HP Elitebook 8460p which is considered pretty bad. WTH is up with this industry?
     
  43. GenTechPC

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    yes August 12th is the day we will receive the first shipment. :)

    Custom changes will take extra 3~5 days.
     
  44. Ugcop

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    Thanks Gentech for the update....
     
  45. aout

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    Gentech could you please give us a reply about low voltage CPUs ? Will they be available for the U36SD ?
     
  46. GenTechPC

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    Unfortunately it's not available, probably only available to notebook manufacturers to be solder on the mainboard.
     
  47. vongola27

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    How about other dual core options such as the i5-2540m or i7-2620m? Would be great to have the extra set of features like aes instructions
     
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    ...........Ditto
     
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    Hi Ken,

    Have any of your Canadian customers reported getting hit with brokerage and/or customs fees upon arrival?

    Thanks :)
     
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