Asus UL30JT

1. ASUS UL30VT-QX030V - Windows 7 - Alina System AB

2. Asus UL30JT-RX008V - Alina System AB

A. Guys the price difference in sweden between VT & JT is Kr 3000 = US $ 410

Is this price difference justifiable...??? Worth it....??

B . Hey guys in Singapore what the price difference between VT & JT over there...?

Thanks..

 

I just ordered a UL30VT-X1 from Amazon, price is too good to passup for just about the same performance, when you consider I wont pay shipping or tax. Even better is I already have amazon prime so I'll have it by Thursday. I'll be saving a good chunk of cash compared to if I wait I suppose.

 

Hey guys. I read a LOT of this thread but I still cannot make up my mind. I haven't bought a notebook in a long time. My needs vary basically between development and general surfing or watching movies. I do web and C++ development (more web lately though), sometimes commute, browse a lot. I'll probably dual boot linux, but depending on problems will probably use the Windows7 more.

I really like various features of all of these U/UL models but since I can't physically inspect the models I cannot decide between them:

I Like the silver, so

UL30VT-A1 - The standard
UL80VT-A2 - More features (DVD/Bluray), less battery, bigger/heavier
U30JC - Better performance, less battery
UL30JT - Was waiting for this but it seems pretty MEH now.

Is the 80VT much bigger? heavier? Why would or wouldn't you use it? Do you have some problems with no DVD? Any other models I should look at? Maybe some other good ones without optical drive? I've always had optical drive for "just in case". I could just buy an external USB DVD for the few times I really need it.

I realize my questions are kind of silly, but I've done a lot of research and haven't asked questions, so... Thanks for reading

 

Here's another Taiwanese owner posting pictures/benchmarks for the JT.

??????ASUS UL30JT???? - Mobile01 ????

 

If the reviews are good, the Envy 14 just won my vote. It's like HP listened to every complaint regarding the Envy 13 and rectified them without compromising on the liked qualities!

The advantages
- Beautiful screen (in this category the envy line stand ALONE)
- Backlit keyboard
- slice battery (a great concept for added longevity)
- Beautiful form factor (apple-esque, yes, but very nice indeed)
- Hi Def webcam (perhaps the same low-light one featured in the 13)
- $999 starting price!

Sorry Asus, HP just took the pole position. Here's hoping that there are not strange bugs that cripple the experience. But I know that this is now my most wanted lappie.

}:^)~

 

It looks nice for sure, but what happened to Envy 13? Have they abandoned it?

 

In case anyone missed it, the 17 doesn't drop until May 26 while the 14 arrives June 27.

 

VT - SG$1298
JT - SG$1698

though many of the shops no longer carry VT. funny considering VT was only in SG market for <3mths.

 

To be fair, we should probably be comparing the UL30Jt to the UL30Vt-A1. Same size battery. The 3DMark06 scores are nearly identical.

So is the 3DMark06 test not affected by the speed of the processor? Is it the 210/310M that is taking up the slack so that any gain in processor isn't seen in the test?

 

The Taiwan reviewer shows a PCMark(05 or Vantage?) of 4346 on his UL30Jt.

Can anyone find a PCMark score on the UL30Vt or UL80Vt (same internals)?

UPDATE: Notebookcheck.net reviewing the UL80Vt:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-UL80Vt-Notebook.23760.0.html

 

Also SOMETHING ODD:
The Taiwan reviewer's UL30Jt's GPU-Z info sheet on his 310M:
Taiwan Review of UL30Jt
UL30Jt GPU-Z


shows his 310M VRAM running at 667 MHz.

My U30Jc's 310M VRAM runs at 790 MHz. Why the difference?

U30Jc GPU-Z


So the UL30Vt 210M & U30Jc's 310M run faster VRAM (790 MHz vs 667 MHz), have more bandwidth (12.6 GB/s vs 10.7 GB/s) and more cores in operation (16 vs 8) than the UL30Jt's 310M.

Has ASUS done something to accommodate the increase from 512MB (U30Jc/UL30Vt) to 1GB VRAM (UL30Jt) on the 310M?

NOTE: As a comparison, here is the UL30Vt/UL80Vt's 210M GPU-Z specs:

UL30Vt GPU-Z

 

Don't forget the VT is getting cheaper all the time... So not only are people disappointed in the small difference between the two in typical computing (and no difference in gaming), the VT is also becoming a better a and better value.

So you can continue racing the 100m race that's unexpectedly turning into a 120 m race, then a 150 m race etc. Or you can decide that you already won the 80 m race.

 

I finally got a chance to see the UL50Vg, and loved everything about the computer, but the display was terrible. The contrast was bad, the viewing angles were really bad, and the resolution is lower than I would like. Assuming the UL30Vt has the same display, I can't even consider it as an option.

I perhaps value the display more than others, but it's an important component to me. Is the JT's display any better?

}:^)~

 

Probably not. Though 1366x768 will look sharper/nicer on a 13" screen than a 15" screen.

I was just in the Apple Store yesterday (wife has a Macbook). Now the display on the 13" MBP really shines. The res is different (a bit) at 1280x800 due to being a 16:10 screen instead of a 16:9 ... but the vertical viewing angles AND the blacks/contrast were EXCELLENT, really excellent.

I have the U30Jc (same screen as the UL30Vt/Jt most likely.) Every time I watch HULU at full-screen, I can really see the light bleeding up from the bottom and washing out the blacks on the lower 1/3 of the screen. I put up with it, but it's not the best.

Though in normal work, it's not very noticeable to me.

 

this things takes forever to release..
the review from the Taiwan website said that
it can boots up to 2.4 ghz....1.8(intel turbo)x1.33=2.4GHz

i have a question. for this 2.4 ghz, does it performan better than the u30jc i3-350m? but does it consume more battery life than the i3 compare the jt at 2.4ghz ?

 

So... the JT 310M is downclocked and running at agp x8 instead of 16x

Well, Im off to buy my VT. I like small ty displays because for anything not having to do with typing text and surfing I don't care about the quality. Altough i'd bothered to look at radios with crap contrast whenever I dont have a screen nearby... 649€ tax and shipping included for a black 80VT with optical burning drive, can hardly pass on that.
At least if I'm disapointed by the screen I get to save nearly half the money I intended to put in the JT. I also think that there will be massive VT destocking promotions this summer or when the JT really hits the stores. Expect seeing it down at 550€ shortly...

 

Good question. I have no idea.

But even on my i3-350M, that 2.26GHz speed is only used if I'm in High Performance mode. Any kind of power saving mode and the processor drops to 1.5 or 1.2 or 1GHz to conserve on battery life, and that's independent of choosing integrated or discrete graphics.

But does the i5 overclocked to 2.13 (two cores) or 2.4 (one core) consume as much or more battery compared to the i3-350M 2.26GHz processor?

Can any engineers or electrical guys/gals answer that?

 

Power consumption will be determined mostly by clock speed and voltage, so I would expect the power consumption to be similar to the i3 when at maximum speed. Both of them would probably use significantly less power when running on one core, though the 2.4GHz would likely use slightly more power than the 2.26GHz.

The important question is how much both CPUs drop their clock speeds when in power saving mode. If the i5-520UM has lower multipliers it can use, then it should be capable of longer battery life.

 

Hi
I've been following this thread for over a month now and am pretty excited for the release of this laptop.
As a computer newb, I have a question: Does anybody know if I will be able to play Starcraft 2 without lag on this laptop??
I believe the min specs are:
• 2.2 Ghz Pentium IV or equivalent AMD Athlon processor
• 1 GB system RAM/1.5 GB for Vista and Windows 7
• 128 MB NVidia GeForce 6600 GT/ATI Radeon 9800 PRO video card
• 1024x768 minimum display resolution

Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

 

It should do the job just fine, though the settings will probably have to be medium or low.

 

Or Lord Voldemort is at the finish line....waiting to kill you.

The reason behind the success of the UL30VT was that it is machine that hit all the right spots. It is an ultra-light, ultra-thin laptop with an industry-leading battery life while having an affordable price tag. Not only did it provide the portability that the user was looking for, the UL30VT had the extra computing power (GPU&CPU) versatility without compromise to the battery life. The bottom line is that the UL30 was built for user that's always on-the-go and had the little "UMP" of power when the user demanded it.

When the UL30 line starts compromising much of its success for computing power (as in the UL30JT), it's no longer fulfilling its original purpose: portability and battery life. There's plenty of laptops out there for those user that want computing power and graphics for gaming, heck just build a gaming rig, but the UL30 line just isn't the one to fill those shoes. I think that's why the UL30JT is a disappointment to most of us in the end.

The next "WOW" factor in the UL30 line, in my opinion, is a laptop that has better computing power, better graphics, USB 3.0 and eSATA with the battery life, form and price-range of the UL30VT. It might be too much to ask but let's hope ASUS can provide us with just that.

 

Mac haters wonder why we Apple users pay extra. This is one of the reasons. After using my 24" IPS monitor for a month, I have to say that my standards for image quality rose enormously. The MBP 13 uses a TN panel, though a very good one. I expect my next laptop to have equally good image quality or better.

But I WILL admit that my G50VT isn't so bad on the eyes. But the viewing angles are...pretty bad!

 

That and applecare. I've gotten my 2-year old battery swapped, worn-out power adaptor, failed dvd drive and motherboard (though the motherboard was their fault). To be fair, Macs are a BIT overpriced just because it's apple.

 

The wait is over! At least here in Denmark... I have just opened my brand new UL30JT.

First impressions:
Nice size and finish.
A little flex in the keyboard, but not enough to be worrying, at least for me.
Nice and clear screen, but very glossy and the viewing angles are a bit small.

I have only just received it, so I can't comment on the speed or battery yet.

 

Grats! How much did you end up paying, and where did you buy it from? I've ordered one of the last black UL30VTs available in DK for myself, as I simply haven't the extra cash to spend right now.

 

I can completely appreciate this. The screen *is* important, especially considering that it's the primary interface for computer interaction.

In fact, the only thing keeping me from buying a macbook pro 13, is the lack of a user-swappable battery. Thankfully the new Envy 14 seems to fit the bill nicely with better specs and a lower price point than the MBP. In fact at $999 starting, it will be comparable in price to the JT and blow it out of the water in nearly every category (except possibly battery life and weight).

Whatever system I get is going to have linux on it, so I'm less caught up in the mac/win wars, and value a well-spec'd machine at a good price.

}:^)~

 

I would really appreciate if you made a review. Can you check how many mAh the battery in the dustin model is? Is it a 5600mAh or a 4400mAh battery.

If you don't want to write a review you could send me a pm. (in danish)

 

UL80JT is listed on sg.asus website as well...

ASUSTeK Computer Inc.

sad but comes with the same Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 520UM : 1.06 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 1.86 GHz; Processor as the 30JT.

 

Why? It will last about 5 years and they will replace it in store while you wait? Do you need multiple batteries for to swap out daily? Do you require over 10 hours away from an outlet? Then perhaps I can understand. I have a 1st gen. Aluminum Macbook. I bought it because I could swap the battery. In the 2 years I have used it I never have done so and I would totally trade it for the new MBP 13" for its unbelievable battery life, longevity, and the fact that it was not at the cost of performance.

 

That's a good point. I personally do sales often and am away from power for quite some time, and knowing that I'll have a charge is a very important characteristic. Anyway, the Envy 14 seems to cover this well and one-ups the MBP in almost every other way.

 

I think the Envy 14 (actually 14.5'') competes against the MBP 15 and Asus N82JV. It's no longer in the thin & light category. However I have to admit its specs are very tempting, especially the screen quality.

 

May not be a factor for some people, but based on notebook failure rates HP has the lowest scores. ASUS and Toshiba top the charts.

 

I never realized how important battery life and wifi strength was until today!


I'm at Borders right now. I would like outlet access if possible, but all the seats located near outlets are all taken. Some middle-aged dude who's just reading a book is sitting next to one and refuses to leave. About 2 seats down, there's a seat where no one's sitting but it's clearly reserved; the little table next to it has a PITCHER full of iced tea and a cup of tea and a laptop bag. Whoever sits there obviously *lives* here. What the hell?!


That being said, I have about 7.5 hours of battery life left with the brightness turned down 2 notches. Plenty of time to work on my stuff. If you go with the UL30VT or JT, you'll learn to appreciate the benefits of having that amazing battery life.

 

'm fro denmark and i cant find it? edbpriser.dk doesnt have it listed - where did you find and what was the price?

EDIT: found it.. http://www.dustinhome.dk/pd_5010442247.aspx

 

any idea when the UL30JT will come to the UK?

also - did anyone compare it with the new i7 MacBook Pro (mostly for large photo files) by any chance? still making my minds about which to get and would really appreciate any tips....

 

Start Drooling:

Toshiba building world's lightest 13-inch laptop with fast charging SCiB battery? -- Engadget

 

Now that's a real killer. Possibly a Sony Z competitor?

 

discrete gpu or not?

 

Wow, sweet! There are some very nice laptops coming from so many manufacturers. Who will be first out in the U.S.?

 

I'm guessing its just a standard Intel 4500...

 

Intel HD at least i guess.

 

If the Toshiba only has an Intel HD GPU then it doesn't belong in this thread.

 

Well in some games the lastest intel HDs are as fast as a 9400M Ion

And GPU is pretty much optional for everybody looking into the UL series. Or else they'd aim for 330m level laptops.

 

wow... I'm really not sure what I'm going to end up with. From cheapest to most expensive:

Asus Eee 1218
Asus UL30JT
Macbook Pro 13"
Macbook Air

Honestly, at the end of the day, all I really need it to do is access/edit google docs for work. I should probably just get the best 12" netbook I can find. (This expense is coming out of my pocket) It's hard to deny the quality of the screens on the macs.

Does anyone know the differences between the Asus 1215N and the Asus 1218?

 

Well, I folded and got a Macbook Pro 13". It's my first non Asus notebook in years but unfortunately Asus has been too slow to market.

To compare:
The UL30A is currently listed here for NZD $1699.
The UL30VT never got released here.
The UL30JT has not shown up here yet and even if it does get released soon, chances are it will cost a fair bit more than $1699 (going off the UL30A price).

I paid $1799 NZD for the Macbook Pro, so for that price - it was a good deal.

 

Welcome to the club. You won't regret your membership in Steve Job's cult. That's one more to add to our roster and one step more toward world domination...muahahaha!

 

Just the aluminium unibody differs. And maybe minor specs upgrade on the 1218 like CPU Ghz.

 

I can say first-hand that the MBP's screen is significantly better than the UL30 series ASUS' (I have the U30Jc, my wife the Mac.)

 

Well to be honest it's not any better, it's still the same TN pannels every constructor uses. You can read photographic reviews with Kelvins and for that proof.
However apple does calibrate their OS to match colorimetric profile of the LCD pannel they are using, resulting in better color match and contrasts.
Do the same with any other laptop and you'll have a similar result. (You can find ready to use calibration profiles on screen review websites). Like here for example : http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-42/-telecharger-un-profil-calibre-pour-son-ecran-portable-asus-65.html you'll find profiles for UL series.
The only real difference can only come from the max brightness & light bleeding which will indeed depend on how the LEDs are placed and on the power of the LEDs used. And most of all the quality of gloss used on top of the screen.

 

bumskee where did you buy it from, and did you use a mail proxy?
im thinking of doing the same, ul30vt-a1 costs 1200+ here in aus