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    Asus UX302

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by dogman216, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. projectshave

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    How many monitors can the UX302LA drive? Can it do 2 monitors like the rMBA 13"?
     
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    The most recent BIOS update specifically updates the NFC device. But, I don't see any evidence of built in NFC. Is this a feature of some configurations other than the UX302LA?
     
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    I just found this page: Asus Zenbook UX32VD Teardown - iFixit


    And it says this:

    Just like the unibody MacBooks, the keyboard in the Zenbook cannot be removed from the upper case, which means the two must be replaced simultaneously.


    There is a photo toward toward the bottom of the page: http://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/B4EJ2kWOWA6X2AGs

    And that photo shows the keyboard attached to the metal panel with just about everything else removed. So much for pulling the keyboard and bending the panel down. :(
     
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    Can someone who has a Canadian 302LG model post a photo of their keyboard? I just want to confirm it's a US keyboard before shipping one to Japan. Thanks.
     
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    Does anyone know if it's possible to reverse the touchpad scrolling direction?
     
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    Yes you can its labeled strangely though

    its under trackpad settings its called
    "Content moves with your finger direction"
     
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    From the start screen, if I go to the mouse and touchpad settings, my only options are to select the primary button, scroll multiple lines or pages at a time, and put a delay on the touchpad to prevent accidental clicks while typing. Is there another set of options somewhere else?

    I figured out a way around it with AutoHotKey, but it scrolls super fast, and I'd rather do it right in Windows if possible.

    Thanks for the help.
     
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    So far of what I have researched, this is the best ultrabook that can actually be decent for gaming, have good battery life, and have great design. Compared to the Gigabyte P34G which has a higher graphics card (NVIDIA GTX 760m) but its battery is only 3 hours and has dull design I think I'd lean over to pick the Asus UX302LG. Is there any other laptops (besides razer blade b/c the screen blows) that come to par or even better than the Asus UX302LG that has a decent graphic card, ultrabook design, and still good battery? Still contemplating whether to pick this or any other ultrabook that can somewhat game. a
     
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    How long did it take for them to ship it to you? And how was the process?
     
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    I think revival was talking about using the Asus Smart Gesture configuration tool, rather than the windows one. To get to it, there used to be an icon in the system tray, however on my computer it's no longer there. The icon on the Start screen seems to have also disappeared. Go figure.

    In any case, the .exe is here: C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ASUS Smart Gesture\AsTPCenter\x64\AsusTPConfigure64.exe
     
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    Awesome awesome awesome. This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.
     
  12. kornfeld

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    And for my third update on this: I took it back apart, and decided to just unscrew the battery and most of the motherboard to loosen them up a bit. This allowed me to push on the keyboard much more than when it was all sealed up. The warped frame still isn't perfect, but it's much better now. Hopefully it stays down.

    So if you have a warped frame, this is an option.
     
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    Interesting. Could you post a screenshot of this application? On a recent previous Asus Zenbook I had, I used the default touchpad driver, but I found its config utility extremely lacking in features. The utility was always at C:\Program Files\Elantech\Asus_UI_Win8.exe. On ths Zenbook I use the latest Asus Touchpad drivers found here: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download Touchpad. This driver provides both the standard uitlity (Asus_UI_Win8.exe), but it also inserts a ton of features which can be configured in the registry. I suspect that the EXE is the same as Asus_UI_Win8.exe. Thanks...
     
  14. revival

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    IS the touchpad an Elantech though?
     
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    I just ordered the UX302LG-DH71T-CA from Amazon (used my credit card reward points and got it for $928)! I plan on upgrading the RAM and I have a real nice 1TB SSD ready to put in. With regards to RAM, I see that 4GB is onboard with one slot. I understand from several UX302 videos on YouTube that you can get a single 16GB (1X16GB) DDR3 stick for this. Has anyone tried this? Is it even possible? 20GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD would be awesome in an ultrabook. Thanks for the input.
     
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    Yeah that would be pretty damn sick.
     
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    I have never heard of single 16GB laptop ram. if you find one please provide a link
     
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    Capture.jpg

    I don't think it's an Elantech however. Both in msconfig and device manager it says the manufacturer is Asus.
     
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    Jumping in late to this. I've had the UX302LA for about a month now. Purchased at Best buy, USA for $799.

    The good and the ugly in no particular order

    Cover is fingerprint magnet, gorilla glass 3 makes it extremely scratch resistant, I'm running around all day with it and not a single scratch so far. As dirty as it can get, when finally cleaned, it puts all other laptops in the room to shame. EVERYONE will notice it and be envious. It also comes with a leather type sleeve, awesome touch by Asus.

    Charger is semi fingerprint prone. but it is very small and looks slick and nice.

    Battery life is average, usually I get 5-6 hours on 40% brightness, heavy wi-fi browsing, bluetooth on, backlit keys on level 2. At night, with brightness completely lowered and watching a movie saved on the hdd, headphones, wifi off, I have gotten 7.5hrs.

    Wi-Fi card is stellar on this, great speeds, and amazing range. For a heavy web user like myself, it is awesome.

    Touchpad is solid, settings allow you to change scroll travel direction, two-finger clicks/scrolling is smooth, swiping in from sides (Windows 8 menus) is seamless. 3-finger touches can also be enabled but I had a hard time getting used to them since they seem to do not much.

    On default settings, battery stats can be weird. Uninstall "Power4Gear" and everything is fine.

    On default settings, power button shuts down/hibernates the laptop. The button is right above the backspace key and can be accidentally hit sometimes (only twice so far in one month). Battery settings allows you to very easily change this. My settings: button=sleep fn+f1=hibernate

    Speakers are loud and clear for a laptop this small. No big bass obviously. Mic and camera make for a skype experience of 9/10 or better.

    Backlit keys have 3 levels of brightness, very helpful at times.

    Buy the laptop, use it for a week or two, and if you notice it freezing bc of your work load/applcations, then increase the ram. It comes with 2gb soldered on and a 2gb card plugged in the only available slot. I think laptop can take a maximum of 16gb, but because the currently available biggest card is 8gb, you can have a maximum of 2+8= 10gB. Most people will increase it without realizing 4gb is usually good enough for most people. In this thread, these specs are recommended for a new stick. 800Mhz (1600 DDR) Cas Latency 11 1.35v SODIMM

    HardDrive will only be worth upgrading to SSD if you are constantly accessing it. In my experience, there was faster transfer speeds, no battery life improvement, and reduction in noise. The installed HDD is already quiet and only barely noticeable in a dead silent room. Not really worth the investment, had been really hoping for longer battery life. If you must, go with a Samsung Evo.

    You can only update to Windows 8.1 after you have completed all Windows security updates on the laptop. If you have successfully installed all updates, go to the WIndows app store and the first panel/advertisement will show you can upgrade for free. It won't show until everything else is updated.

    Inside the cardboard best buy box, there is a fancy laptop box with ASUS ZENBOOK written on it. Inside that is the laptop, micro-fiber cleaning cloth, charger, leather sleeve, manuals, and 2 adapters, VGA and Ethernet.

    The touchscreen is a 10 point responsive and accurate input method. The 1920 x 1080 display is clear and bright. On a full dark screen, most noticeable on start-up, there is light bleed along mostly the bottom edge. I found it impossible to see after start up. On the back of the laptop there is the asus logo and yes, it does light up white and goes really nicely with the blue glass cover.

    Integrated Intel 4400 graphics means you can run some older games at a decent frame rate, but nothing fancy.

    Don't worry about the super thin lid. Its built tough, and after a month of use, I opened my previous laptop to transfer something and was instantly annoyed by how thick and fat the lid was. With this, you can lift the lid with just one finger as fast as you want, and the base stays flat on the table.

    QUALITY CONTROL, first asus laptop and I am not sure if this is a regular issue with their laptops. 1st unit I bought had weird "sunken" keys, you could tell they weren't like the rest. Otherwise, it was fine until I pressed the right side alt alt key for the first time and it clean popped off. It wouldn't reattach and best buy didn't have any luck either so they gave me a new unit. 2nd unit had INSANE amounts of light bleed around the bottom edge and top corners. If I flexed the display enough, it would actually go away. Horrible quality control. And with the 2nd unit, I noticed the touchpad had a weird flex to it. left click was fine but right click was completely silent and slow to come back up. Almost as if they accidentally put glue on the underside. Anyways, returned that and now I am on my third unit. 3rd unit so far has been perfect.

    In this order, I have owned and used, gateway, dell, sony, and now finally asus. I have never had to return a laptop because of quality control issues. Really disappointing. Overall, for the price of $799, I would give this a 9/10. It is light (3lbs), stylish, and of excellent build quality. It can run quiet and cool while handling anything the average user throws at it. Best buy has a 15 day return policy. Buy one and then exchange it a few times for stupid quality issues. After you finally get a perfect unit, I guarantee 95% of you will keep it.

    Sorry about grammer and spelling, been awake for too long.

    And if you are getting a warranty, research all the fine print. Check out squaretrade, have heard a lot of good things about them. Personally I have never bought a warranty for my laptops, maybe I'm just too careful. I had one burnt motherboard but that was after 5 years of use, so no tears there. And I once cracked a screen, but oem replacement screen was only $70. On the other hand, I have cracked the screen for my phone twice so far and warranty has definitely paid off.
     
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    Thanks for the screenshot. Yes, that's the same config that's available in the latest Asus Touchpad driver from here ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download Touchpad. And, I'm pretty confident that it's an Elantech that is rebranded as Asus Smart Gesture. First, almost every zenbook prior had elantech devices and secondly, even the Touchpad drivers from Asus's Touchpad driver download page contain Elantech settings *in addition to* a utility that is identical to the one in your screenshot.

    But, the advantage of the one from Asus's Touchpad page is that you get a system tray icon and a ton of settings you can easily modify in the registry.
     
  21. DanielNTX

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    Not true and a waste of time to complete all the 8.0 updates because they don't apply to 8.1. Just install Update is available that prepares Windows 8 and Windows RT-based computers for the update to Windows 8.1 and Windows 8.1 RT and reboot and then you can download in the store.
     
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    I would be kind of shocked if they made their own touchpad(and also kind of worried). Elantech and Synaptics have been doing this for years and have optimized their technology in their niche. Asus may make their own motherboards but they have never made a touchpad. For them to risk putting their own into their premium product would really surprise me.
     
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    It is Elantech, rebranded for ASUS.
     
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    Anyone with the UX302LG able to tell me if their unit came with Win 8 Pro? Mine did not, though it was advertised that way.
     
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    Anyone think putting the 301 ultra HD panel on a 302LG will work
     
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    You a would need to check the cable will fit and the display output chip is capable of outputting that res.
     
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    So far of what I have researched, this is the best ultrabook that can actually be decent for gaming, have good battery life, and have great design. Compared to the Gigabyte P34G which has a higher graphics card (NVIDIA GTX 760m) but its battery is only 3 hours and has dull design I think I'd lean over to pick the Asus UX302LG. Is there any other laptops (besides razer blade b/c the screen blows) that come to par or even better than the Asus UX302LG that has a decent graphic card, ultrabook design, and still good battery? Still contemplating whether to pick this or any other ultrabook that can somewhat game.
     
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    I just wrote a long post detailing my experience with my newly acquired UX302LG, but lost it all with the click of a button and I can't be bothered to write it all again so I'll just go straight to the point, anyway you'll probably prefer it that way.

    Just received my ux302lg-c4007p
    1) Box and presentation look great
    2) Keyboard warp present on my unit, extremely visible with keyboard backlight on
    3) Dead pixel(s) in the lower left corner
    4) Extensive backlight bleeding, annoying in dim lit environments with a dark background. Can be mitigated by pressing on the sreen cover which leads me to think it would not be too difficult for Asus to solve this issue.

    For a 1350 Euros I feel quality it is not up to scratch with the premium price. If it was cheaper, maybe I would keep it.

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  29. Chaku01

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    Yes mine came with Win 8 Pro and they all should.
     
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    Woah Chaku01! Why are your keys wildly different from the standard keyboard layout? Am I missing something?
     
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    It's for a different region.
     
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    Does anyone know the function key to bring up the boot menu?
     
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    It's the French keyboard layout.
     
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    It's all a matter of priorities. The UX302LG is compact, beautiful, fairly light (1.60 kg on my scale, not 1.5 as advertised) even though subjectively, it does not feel feather light as the VAIO Pro that tip the scales at just 1kg. But all this comes at a price, CPU and GPU throttling during intensive use quote from notebookcheck: "the HD Graphics IGP is throttled from 1,000 MHz to 800 MHz and the CPU no longer runs at the max 2.3 GHz clock speed, instead falling down below the standard clock speed of 1.6 GHz to a mere 1.2 GHz." Review Asus Zenbook UX302LA-C4003H Ultrabook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews Although I did not test this myself and I found a "performance" option in the power options menu in windows that supposedly should throttle less the cpu by using the fan more. Battery life on this model is fine without being outstanding (about 5hrs office type use)

    If you're all about power on a socket, and care less about size, weight, screen quality, looks, and battery life, I guess the P34G is meant for you.

    Personally, without the manufacturing faults I had on my unit, (keboard warp, dead pixels and backlight bleeding) I would go the UX302 way without hesitation.
     
  35. Derek712

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    Can you please post a screenshot of your version under system? I want to have to to give to the vendor in case they don't believe me.
     
  36. Chaku01

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    My unit UX302LG-C4007P is already repackaged as I'm returning it. Though I can share this picture taken on the side of the box.
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    Athough it seems notebokcheck's unit UX302LA-C4003H also comes with regular windows 8. Maybe the lower spec models don't come with pro.
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    Review Asus Zenbook UX302LA-C4003H Ultrabook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
     
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    Btw, does anybody know the difference between these two UX302LG model numbers?

    UX302LG-C4007P
    UX302LG-C4007H

    I first thought it might be a localisation difference (Languages supported and keyboard layout), but they're both sold in the same online store and should both be localised with a french keyboard. To add to the mystery, although they have the exact same specs, one costs 1 360€ and the other 1 309€...
     
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    I'm personally deciding between this one and the Acer V7-482PG. I'm still benchmarking the Asus, so I'm not sure which one I like better performance wise. The Acer sports a GT750M with an i5-4500U so it's a trade off between graphics and CPU. The Acer's CPU seems to be the bottleneck in the system for some games, so the GT750M isn't fully utilized. Games like SC2 only get 40fps on medium settings at FHD. I'll posta full comparison when I finish benchmarking the UX302LG but here's my short pro/con comparison list for both units:

    UX302LG vs V7-482PG(i5 version on Amazon)

    Build quality: Asus design is better and feels more solid. Ultrabook is lighter and thinner than the Acer model. Acer's build quality feels solid and is made of a nice plastic, but it is still plastic. Picking up the Asus with one hand is much easier than picking up the Acer, as the Acer feels like it would slip out of my fingers a little easier. The Gorilla Glass on the Asus really helps with the grip(unless you have wet hands)

    Keyboard: Asus offers different backlight levels but Acer only has one level. I really don't care about that, as the Acer keyboard lighting was sufficient enough for me. The only gripe about the Acer keyboard is there is a little light bleed in some of the keys like the spacebar. Not terrible but noticeable. My Asus keyboard is warped REALLY bad, so it's kind of frustrating typing on it right now. IT also affects how the backlight comes through the center keys. If it weren't for that, I would say the Asus keyboard is better, but I have to side with Acer unless I can get this fixed.

    Screen: Both are FHD, Acer is 14" while Asus is 13". Both are bright but the Asus is a little brighter. I notice the difference in the office with florescent lighting - the Asus beats the glare a little better. As for backlight bleed, I honestly thing no IPS screen will be perfect unless you hand $2k to Apple for an machine with somewhat comparable specs. I went through two Acers until I got a screen with one large but light bleed spot. My Asus has lighter bleed overall but there are more spots. I think it's just luck really because the BLB is determined by the pressure points felt on the screen. The Acer has a plastic lid, which is probably a little warped and why the bleed is a little worse.

    Touchpad: Asus touchpad is hands down a better one. Gestures are better and it feels quality. The Acer version feels cheap. It works fine but left and right clicking feel like more of a chore than other touchpads. Also, some of the options are disabled on Acer's touchpads drivers, which is frustrating.

    Heat: I haven't played games on the Asus but I will comment that the Acer gets extremely hot. I have to use a cooling pad to play on my lap or else it hurts.

    Touchscreen: both are good but the Asus one wiggles a little more. The Acer screen hinge is solid so it doesn't move at all. This is a tradeoff though because I can open the Asus lid with one finger and the Acer requires two hands. Since I rarely use the touchscreen, I prefer the Asus. Opening a laptop with one hand is a feature that most laptop makers seem to be neglecting lately.

    Cost: I got the Acer for $850, while the Asus ran me $1400

    Upgradability: Both can be serviced. Both have a ram slot that can support an 8GB module for a total of 12GB. The Acer wins by being easier to open and having a standard msata slot instead of the half sized slot. This allowed me to put a 256GB Crucial msata in the Acer for 500MB/s read and 250MB/s write speeds. I put the only available half size 128GB msata in the Asus and it worked fine. Read speeds were 500MB/s but write was limited to 100MB/s even though the vendor claimed speeds of 200MB/s. It's still extremely fast and the unit boots in just a few seconds. The Asus actually booted faster than the Acer, but I would still side with the Acer in upgradibility.

    Overall value: I think you get more bang for your buck for the Acer. The Asus would be a whole lot nicer if it included a SSD and the keyboard didn't suck. Upgradibility is important to me but so is weight and build quality. If I can't get the keyboard warping fixed, I'm sticking with the Acer without a doubt. Otherwise it's going to come down to benchmarking and I still think it's going to be a tough decision. If money is no object, I would choose the Asus but still only if the warping was fixed. It's THAT bad.
     
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    I'll have to check my box. I'm out of town so I can't right now. That screenshot is the LA which comes with regular Win 8. The LG all came with Pro I thought. Thanks!
     
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    Does anyone know how to ask questions about products on the NCIX website? I can't figure out how to do it.
     
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    Simple:
    UX302LG-C4007 H= Windows 8 Home
    UX302LG-C4007 P= Winows 8 Pro
     
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    There's a contact us link on their site. You can also call them but they won't answer questions about this laptop because they don't have it in their warehouse. It's actually sent out by a sub-vendor who does a poor job at packaging.
     
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    Thanks for the helpful comparison!

    Have you gotten a chance to try the Asus for gaming? Just wondering how hot it gets.
     
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    I found the answer to our questions!

    UX302LG-C4007 P comes with windows 8 PRO
    UX302LG-C4007 H comes with windows 8 (HOME)

    So your model number was probably ending with an H.
     
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    I just found out the answer and posted it, then I realised you answered it before!

    Thanks man
     
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    I genuinely can't figure out what all the fuss about the keyboard is about. I guess mine is slightly warped in the middle as in the photo above, but I hadn't noticed it until everybody started complaining about it. Not a big deal for me.

    Ironically, what does bug me about the keyboard is the fact that you can see the light from underneath the keys, as you can see in the picture above in the areas away from the middle of teh keyboard. In my opinion, a keyboard backlight should look like the middle area in the photo above.
     
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    No problem playing Crysis 2 on my lap, I can hear the fan going (if I take my headphones off), but the heat isn't uncomfortable.
     
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    I totally agree, in a perfect world the keyboard frame should be slightly higher all round so to avoid "keyboard bleed". The fuss is about the quality of manufacturing for the premium price. Keyboard warp is not inevitable on such a build, the UX32VD doesn't have it or any other metal frame computers I've seen before. It's a flaw and it's visible. If it was only about that, I might have kept it, but add to this dead pixel(s) and a somewhat noticeable backlight bleed especially in the upper left corner of the screen, and I feel my 1350 euros were not that well spent.
     
  49. deneme

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    Hi, I bought Asus UX302LG-C4007H from my country. First I installed updates in Win 8 Single Language then I upgraded Win 8.1 from market but after that characters and icons became a little small and when I runned Asus Installation Wizard in the taskbar I got "The drivers in this disk are not compatable with your hardware" mesage and cant start.
     
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    The warping on mine was bad enough that the metal frame was above the tops of the keys. Really annoying.

    I've received a few emails about how to bend it back. This is only worth doing if you got a discounted computer. If you paid full price, just exchange it.

    Should you choose to try and bend the frame yourself, here are the details:

    1. Open up the computer as described in the two videos here and then here.

    2. Unscrew the shiny screws around the battery (this is shown in the second video above).

    3. Disconnect the battery from the mother board. You'll see a small plastic plug with a bunch of colored wires. Gently lift straight up on one side of the plug, and it'll pop free. Then lift up on the other side and it'll pop free. At this point, you can remove the battery completely.

    4. Remove the hard drive. This is fully explained in the second video.

    5. Remove most of the screws from the mother board. It will remained attached to the hinge. You're loosening the motherboard from the metal frame so that you can bend the metal without bending the plastic motherboard.

    6. You completed steps 2-5 so that you can bend the metal frame around the touchpad and keyboard without bending the hard drive or snapping the mother board. So, bend the frame now. When I did it, I put my thumbs on the sides where the USB ports are, and the tips of my fingers on the keys of the keyboard. I then bent the whole thing quite a bit so that it was actually permanently bent down slightly when I was done. You might try doing this by supporting the sides of the computer and then pushing down on the middle. Then when you put everything back together, it gets bent flat. (While bending, be careful that you don't mess up the speakers.)

    7. Reassembly is the reverse of disassembly.
     
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