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    Asus UX31 Ultrabook

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by pear-i, May 31, 2011.

  1. jhall006

    jhall006 Notebook Enthusiast

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    It actually says delete on yours?! I thought it said Enter and Return.

    The Fn/Ctrl thing is a pretty big deal I find. Even after 2 months with the MBA I keep hitting Fn when I'm trying to do Ctrl+ something. If only it was a remappable key.
    If you're using OSX but used to a PC, there is always Double Command, which can be used to make the experience a bit more comfortable with various key remappings.


    I have to admit I'm not 100% sold on my UX31 yet. I'm not sure what it is. I think it could be that ASUS (and the industry) did such a good job of building it up that my expectations were really high. I've never preordered anything before, or even watched for its release date, but did for this, and also spent more on it than I normally would on a laptop.

    Things to LOVE that are unique to the UX:

    1) build and appearance are unbeatable, better than the MBA or any other laptop I think

    2) Resolution is just superb. I did just realise that my current 2009 MBA is only 1280 x 800 so I am used to something a little more crappy. Maybe the
    1440x900 of the new Air would be good enough, or even the 1366 of the rest of the ultrabook line. Does anyone know what the difference in feel/appearance is like between these 1280 - 1366 - 1440 - 1600?

    3) Other little bonuses are things like the case, which is really nice to use.

    Things that are bothering me:

    1) The keyboard takes some getting used to. You really have to hit the keys harder than i'd like, and it's resulting in a fair few typos. I assume this isn't a driver thing though, so it won't get any better without my brain and fingers adjusting.

    2) The trackpad is usable with the driver upgrades, but I still find I'm having to concentrate too much when using it. It's a real shame, I hate overshooting and jumping about I'm not used to it... I thought a trackpad would be something easy to get right.

    3) The sound is a bit overexcited I think. There seems to be a subwoofer somewhere or something that's just booming a bit too much and creating not distortion but too much bass even for kids videos on youtube. Other than the bass though, it's actually very impressive.


    I find the wireless is actually very good. It is stronger than my 2009 MBA and picks up networks that the Air cannot. I don't see the point in comparing it with other computers that are 4 years old or whatever, those things will just have bigger wireless receivers right? Comparing it with another tiny computer and it's quite favourable.

    Jury is out for me, sadly, though I don't know if I've got much choice now that it's out of the box and been used, unless I can say to Amazon the trackpad/keyboard aren't usable...
     
  2. Mide

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    Does anyone even have this laptop in stock? It seems locked at pre-ordered through most vendors.
     
  3. darthsat

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    This is true. Can't say what technology will bring in 5 years. However, I know tons of people who use laptops for greater than that period of time. I currently use a Sony Vaio SZ that is just over 5 years old, and a Dell XPS m1330 that is just over 4 years old. These are both 13" ultraportables that I don't plan on retiring anytime soon as they are both perfectly functioning machines.

    It'd just be nice to have some plan in place for replacing these UX21/31 batteries down the road for those of us who aren't going to jump off to a new expensive laptop every 3 years.
     
  4. easyc

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    BestBuy.com has them in stock the RSL8 is identical to the DH52.
     
  5. papadetito

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    This could be me particular to me, but I use the right-CTRL key with any key I type with my left hand. So Cut, Copy, Paste, and new Tab are all right-CTRL actions for me.
     
  6. Satchm0

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    Since the monitor is lit many of us use our laptops in dark rooms making the keys difficult to see especially if the keys are dark. It's a nice feature to have, I'd gladly pay an extra $100 for it.
     
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    RE: Backlit keyboards

    It's really useful in dim lighting... it's not really about being good at typing without looking at the keyboard, even the best touch typist has to look at the keys occasionally to locate shifted-symbols. It also helps when you take your hands off the keyboard and need to place your hands back in the home location without having to feel for the F/J bumps.

    Once you go backlit... you're spoiled (I hear gamers like them too).
     
  8. LeoBR

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    Only after you quote i found out i have no right ctrl in my Dell Vostro... its been 3 years without realizing it....
     
  9. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    interesting!
    just wondering, between the SZ and M1330, which do you prefer?
    Back many years ago I was trying to decide between the two, but opted for the SZ because the M1330 had a long production delay and was quite pricey. Back then, Sometimes I wondered if I should've been patient.

    I ended up selling my SZ.. which ended up dying a year later to the person I sold it to.
     
  10. smckenna

    smckenna Notebook Evangelist

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    Here's one of the ones I found in my browser's history, but there were several others I read as well that said basically the same thing:

    ASUS Zenbook UX31 Reviewed | Ultraportable Reviews | Laptop Reviews
    "When we watched the 1080p trailer for The Avengers, explosions were wonderfully fiery, but blacks could be truer, and we noticed some pixelation in darker areas. Also, viewing angles leave something to be desired compared to the MacBook Air. Three people watching the same movie would have to snuggle up pretty close to see the image clearly."
     
  11. uniten

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    You mean Dell XPS 1330? That thing had HUGE issues. I got the newer XPS M1340 and that thing crashed on me every 5 minutes, then after they fixed it like a year later with multiple exchanges and driver updates but that thing overheats way too often and I hear M1330 was worse.


    Thats compared to the Asus UX31, I am talking about the Samsung Series 9 screen.
     
  12. MilesInCO

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    Has anyone tried the UX31 with any 2560x1600 or 2560x1440 monitors? I've seen reports of the Dell U2771 27" 2560x1440 monitor working at native resolution with HDMI, but only with certain laptops. Not everything that claims to support HDMI 1.3b supports the full resolution in that spec.

    Thanks,
    Miles
     
  13. smckenna

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    Oh. I thought we were comparing the UX31 with the MBA.
     
  14. twe90kid

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    Interesting read from amazon!

    Review Written by
    b. Weiss
     
  15. romeogg

    romeogg Newbie

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    Wireless is definitely an issue with UX31. I put a three-year old Dell Vostro 1400 right next to my UX31. Both connect to the same router (wireless n only, single channel mode). I copied the same file from a network computer. With UX31 I got only 1.7MB/s, and with Vostro I got > 7MB/s. The results are consistent in multiple runs.

    By the way, I updated to Bios 206, and the power setting for wireless adapter is "Maximum performance".

     
  16. smckenna

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    The same fate was suffered by the Samsung 900X3A laptop (big time wireless woes). I think the common thread is that they both have the aluminum body construction. The metal laptop box acts like a faraday cage, not allowing the wireless antenna within to effectively communicate with the outside world.
    Owners of the Samsung 900X3A proved this by removing the bottom cover of the laptop, and the wireless signal was instantly strong 100%. I wonder if someone here could try the same thing with the UX31.
    What is very mysterious to me is why the MBA doesn't have any of these WiFi antenna issues, even though it has the aluminum body as well.
     
  17. dazz87

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    ifaudi was able to fix his issue with the transfer rate on his UX31. He is now getting 7-8MB/s which is right for 150Mbps. He basically updated his firmware on his Dlink DIR 655 Dont know why you are still getting 1-2MB/s transfer rate.
     
  18. Luterin

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    I am very intersted to hear more about the keyboard and trackpad, if they really are as bad as some scary reports say.

    I'm considering buying one of these for work mainly, which is programing, but if the keyboard/trackpad isn't good or even just a little bit hard to use, I might be better off with something else.

    I really hate keyboards that doesnt respond as I expect and I get errors, so hoping these reports are a bit "over the top" and that it's not as bad as it sounds in some places.
     
  19. protow

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    Nice review. Technically, MBA and Zenbook launched at the same price for the base model, but if you match specs, all the MBAs are $150-$200 more expensive than the equivalent Zenbook. I feel that many people lose sight of this.
     
  20. romeogg

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    Router is unlikely the reason for slow wireless connection in my case. Like I said, I've tested with the SAME router at the same location with two laptops that produced very different results. To make sure that it is not the router, I also tested two different routers, one Netgear and one Linksys E2000, both gave very similar results < 2MB on UX31.

    Do not know how ifaudi got the 7~8MB speed. However I do not think that I am the only one who has this issue.
     
  21. brian5

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    The Samsung Series 9 does not have an aluminum case. It's duralumin (which is the metal used in aircraft). I don't think it would have WiFi issues if the case was aluminum.
     
  22. dazz87

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    How far are you away from your router? Also during the transfer you should be able to see the connection speed on task manager or your router admin page. Is it connection at constantly 150 or does it drop Well, I am getting my UX31 tomorrow and I will test it out. Like ifaudi I too have the D-link DIR 655.
     
  23. romeogg

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    I am sitting in the same room as the router. The connection does not drop, just slow. If yours does not has the problem, I will request for an RMA.
     
  24. darthsat

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    In terms of reliability, hands down the SZ. In 5 years of ownership, I have not had a single hardware malfunction of failure. My m1330 has had the mobo and LED each replaced twice in the first 2 years of ownership. As they stand today, both have been functioning very well over the past 2 years with no issue.

    I use the m1330 more on a day-to-day basis because it is snappier than the SZ. Though they have identical specs in most areas the SZ is limited to 2GB RAM, while the m1330 has 4GB. With modern software and services, my SZ feels sluggish at times. Aesthetically, I have always preferred the 1330. I'm glad I waited the 3 months it took for the 1330 to ship to me in the long run since all the repairs were under warranty, and it is still fast today.

    The UX21 has really peaked my interest as it is the first notebook since the SZ/1330 that I feel is a perfect balance of form and function, while being a big step up from that generation of laptops.
     
  25. DystopiaX

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    Lemme know what happens...I'm interested in this laptop but if the connection problems persist then I'd probably get a MBA or wait for a fix/the next generation of ultrabooks.
     
  26. Mide

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    Ah thanks. "coming soon" though
     
  27. dazz87

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    DH53 is coming soon but the DH52 is available
     
  28. DystopiaX

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    Office Depots got them in stock, delivery only though.
     
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    Not much of a review, more of a listing of tech specs :(
     
  31. dazz87

    dazz87 Notebook Evangelist

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    Does the UX31 include WIDI functionality?

    Haven't seen it mentioned.

    Nice feature that allows wireless playback of notebook video content onto TV (with appropriate additional WIDI server inexpensive hardware)

    I'm guessing no, since I think it would require an Intel wireless adapter. Perhaps with xotic wireless mod it could be there.
     
  33. ProfessorShred

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    I have read on 3 different sites that the UX31-RSL8 BB model has the slower processor,would explain the $50 diff in price,I would like to see a screen shot listing the cpu config in this persons Laptop
     
  34. komoornik

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    Everybody says it won't support it coz it don't have intel wifi card.

    Can any1 say why are u talking about xotic upgrades? They clearly said they can change the CPU compound and that's it - not shocking, considering the size of the wireless card in Zenbooks.

    @ProfessorShred - i think even two people confirmed it's same spec - mistakes in descriptions are common.
     
  35. dazz87

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    Here it is.
     
  36. ProfessorShred

    ProfessorShred Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah, I just looked at Asus's page for the Zenbooks and here is the list of cpu configs,even their own website is wrong,they don't have the i5 2557m listed as an option
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    CPU
    
    Intel® Core™ i7 2677M Processor
     Intel® Core™ i5 2467M Processor
     Intel® Core™ i3 2367M Processor
    
    Intel® Core™ i7 2677M Processor
     Intel® Core™ i5 2467M Processor
    
    
    
    Operating System
    
    Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64bit
     Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64 bit
     Genuine Windows® 7 Home Basic 64 bit
     This version contains all product updates (SP1)
    
    Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64bit
     Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64 bit
     Genuine Windows® 7 Home Basic 64 bit
     This version contains all product updates (SP1)
    
    
    
    Z-height
    
    3mm at the front; 9mm at the rear
    
    3mm at the front; 9mm at the rear
    
    
    
    Screen
    
    11.6 (16:9)
    
    13.3 (16:9)
    
    
    
    Backlight/ Resolution
    
    450 nits HD 1366x768
    
    450 nits HD 1600X900
    
    
    
    Instant on
    
    Always resume in 2 seconds
    
    Always resume in 2 seconds
    
    
    
    USB charger+
    
    Y
    
    Y
    
    
    
    I/O port
    
    6 (USB2.0 / USB3.0 / audio jack / DC jack / microHDMI / miniVGA)
    
    7 (USB2.0 / USB3.0 / audio jack / DC jack / microHDMI / miniVGA / SD card reader)
    
    
    
    USB3.0
    
    1 Port
    
    1 Port
    
    
    
    SSD Generation
    
    SATAIII SSD (64G/128G/256G)
    
    SATAIII SSD (128G/256G)
    
    
    
    BT
    
    Bluetooth 4.0
    
    Bluetooth 4.0
    
    
    
    Battery
    
    35W (5+ hrs)
    
    50W (7+hrs)
    
    
    
    Mic
    
    MEMS MIC (Digital MIC)
    
    MEMS MIC (Digital MIC)
    
    
    
    Keyboard
    
    268 Chi KB
    
    286 Chi KB
    
    
    
    Camera
    
    0.3M
    
    0.3M
    
    
    
    Audio
    
    Bang & Olufsen ICEpower® SonicMaster
    
    Bang & Olufsen ICEpower® SonicMaster
    
     
  37. Asgardson

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    Yes, i agree, that is probably the main reason for the criticism that the ux series its receiving.

    Well i will not rule out buying it for christmas.

    Thank you.
     
  38. jhall006

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    Odd question, but does the MBA even come with an i7? I had a look on their website and all that you can pick up in their shop are two i5 models with 128/256 SSDs. But then on the MBA promo page it boasts the core i5 and i7...
    go figure.

    Out of curiosity, what did you pay?
     
  39. smckenna

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    I got it off eBay (1 month old used) for $1525 with free shipping & no taxes (they are normally $1699 plus tax plus shipping from Apple).
    On the Apple website, you have to just choose the i5 and click continue. After that, it will offer the option to upgrade the CPU to an i7 for more money.
     
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    Anyone else concerned about the reliability of non-intel SSDs?
     
  41. prepseb

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    Not me. But that just me.
     
  42. ifaudi

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    Have you checked the Asus support page and downloaded the wireless drivers? I noticed that the shipped drivers were older than the ones on the webpage. I upgraded those before doing the wireless test. I did have to uninstall the old drivers and install the new ones since it doesn't seem to do an upgrade.

    Its also listed on the side of the box that it has the 2557m processor. I can take a picture of the box after work tonight. And if you ordered when they first listed the laptop it was $100 off.
     
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    They lost me when they said they were comparing it to a Mac.
     
  45. smckenna

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    It is an unfortunate truth for ASUS that the MBA is one of the competing UltraBooks out there that can run Windows 7 nicely. Comparisons are unavoidable.
     
  46. ifaudi

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    I do agree on the palm rest. It can be rather "sharp" and seems like they should have rounded it a little bit. Touchpad could be subjective and they may not have had the newest BIOS or touchpad drivers. With my clean install of W7 (and newest BIOS) I think the touchpad works better than the default Asus setup.
     
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    The only thing to note with the Best buy one is that it is not eligible for the Accidental Damage Protection Warranty. From their own website: These retailers are currently among the companies that do NOT participate in the ASUS 360 Notebook Service Program and Accidental Damage Warranty: Best Buy USA (stores and website), Best Buy Canada (stores and website), OfficeMax (stores and website), Staples USA (stores and website), Costco Wholesale (warehouses only), Microsoft (stores and website).

    If you're into things like that kind of super protective warranty, it's worth thinking about. I'm pretty impressed that I could spill my coffee (or my daughter could) on the laptop and they'd fix it for free in a few days...
     
  48. protow

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    I don't know about "nicely". MBA running Windows is not a good experience. Battery life takes a hit and it takes forever to resume from sleep. Getting a MBA and using Windows as the main OS is a bad decision. For those who don't mind Mac OS though, it's a good laptop
     
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    Aha.

    Sorry but you're wrong. Actually Windows most of the time resumes faster then Mac OS X for me. But that's probably one of the Lion faults.

    And the battery life of MBA's under Windows are comparable to those of the Zenbook's - and they use same Whr batteries.
     
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    I agree... there also issues with the drivers... esp WiFi and touchpad. I've had to cycle out of BootCamp numerous times just to get the touchpad working in Win7.

    I went through all the trouble to BootCamp and install Windows from a USB (since I didn't want to buy a SuperDrive) and now I always just use OSX.
     
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