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    Asus V1S: Noisy, Permenantly runing fan

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Spray, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. Spray

    Spray Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is the fan ALWAYS running? Is there a way to fix this, the fan is even running (clearly audiable) when surfing. When gaming, the fan is extremely noisy and annoying. :mad:
     
  2. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Yes, always running. On all 2007 notebooks, AFAIK.

    As to the noise:
    A. When idle:
    A1. You may be more sensitive. Other people will swear that the V1S is among the quieter laptops.
    A2. You may have a defective fan.
    B. When gaming:
    It is expected for the fan to push hard when gaming. Therefore it will make noise. It has to cool down your GPU. It's either that or a melting GPU... nothing to do about it. You can look into undervolting but that will not help during gaming, where the GPU is mostly to blame for the heat. (by the way we already had this discussion on another thread)

    Returning to fan noise when idle / surfing:
    Are you in a very quiet environment? For instance at night, when I'm at home, I can clearly hear the fan. At work, with the aircon working and a desktop running near the laptop -- there's no way I can hear even that the laptop exists. I think this situation is normal.

    Does a desktop drown the sound of your fan? If so, I think the fan noise is reasonable and you are more sensitive...
     
  3. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    By the way, have you tried out your modular battery yet? Let it drain down to 0? I'm really curious as to whether that will kill your main battery, or not (my bet is that it will, so beware).
     
  4. Spray

    Spray Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah me too, I will try this asap... Actually, Ive had the NB. plugged in with external keyboard/20"tft/mouse since I got the computer. Makes me feel bad fort buying an extra battery without using it :eek:

    Nah Im not in a particular quite enviroment, Its just that Im comparing this V1S to my previous laptop, an Asus A6J, wich was waaaaaaaaaaaay more quite then this one.

    I like to use my lappy in the bed before going to sleep, and my GF is kinda complaining about the noise level...

    When playing games at the "High Performance" setting, the fan on the V1S must be considerd VERY NOISY, Almost unacceptable.
     
  5. kamerek

    kamerek Notebook Guru

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    No wonder it is so noisy .... If you are not afraid .. you may use the best thermal compounds and undervolting. God I am happy not having VIsta, XP is good enough and helps keep the shi ** cooler ;)
     
  6. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    The fan spinning fast in gaming is unrelated to OS. It will do it in any OS, because of the GPU usage.

    It is also understandable that V1S is louder than A6J. Both the CPU and more importantly the GPU are stronger and probably emit more heat... That's the result of the drive for performance in the notebook market nowadays. :)
     
  7. Spray

    Spray Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh no!
    I have now used the modular bay battery wich resulted in a dead main battery! Im unable to get any contact at all with the main battery, Ive tried calibration in bios, I have tried removing both batteries + plugging in the AC in several diffrent orders w/o success.

    The main battery has stuck on 96% and is NOT charging. The computer is put out if i remove the AC plug when the moduar bay battery is disconnected.
    NOW WHAT?..... =(
     
  8. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Now, RMA the main battery, wait for a replacement, and get your money back on the modular battery.

    I expected this to happen, unfortunately...
     
  9. Spray

    Spray Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hmm, Is the main battery wasted? Will a new battery solve the problem?
    What happens when the extra batt is drained?
    I thougt it was the lappy thats faulty...
     
  10. AlexF

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    Not sure about Power4Gear for Vista, but the XP one has a Quiet Office setting which makes it run the fan at a lower, less audible speed. It usually involves throttling the CPU until it needs it (whereas the Performance profiles usually have them running at full speed most of the time).
     
  11. Spray

    Spray Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is this 2nd battery issue something thats fixable in any way?

    Is my main battery wasted?!
     
  12. maati

    maati Notebook Evangelist

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    No, because there is no V1S modular battery existing. The problems are because of the use of V1J batteries in the V1S.

    You have to rma it.

    Neither the laptops nor the batteries are faulty! It's just because people use incompatible V1J batteries in the V1S. It's Asus fault because they told us that they were compatible, but they are not.
     
  13. E.B.E.

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    It is unclear what is the fault, but your modular battery will always kill the main. I'm not sure if a new main will solve the problem by the way, in that respect you are right.

    If you want to make it safe, just send the entire notebook in, let them take care of it. But in any case refund the modular batt because you are not going to be able to use without killing the main -- and that totally defeats its purpose.
     
  14. E.B.E.

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    maati, are you sure about that?
     
  15. matt_h1

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    The modular batteries all have the modular model no V1Jxxxxx so yeah, their designed for earlier models.
     
  16. E.B.E.

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    Yep. So probably they messed up some firmware programming, as always. The question is, if it's just code, why is it so difficult for them to fix it? Or maybe they just don't want to.
     
  17. maati

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    They didn't mess up anything. The problem ist most certainly that the batteries which were originally designed for notebooks based on Intel 945PM chipset are not compatible with those based on 965PM "Santa-Rosa" chipset, even if they are supposed to because of very similar hardware (V1J/V1S). Not only Asus was affected by this problem but also Zepto had to develop new high-capacity batteries for the 6625WD when they had to realize that those batteries designed for its predecessor caused hardware malfunction.

    In Germany some modular batteries were already supplied with a new firmware and are now recognized as V1S. These batteries do not kill the main battery anymore but they cause some other minor problems, unfortunately.
     
  18. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Well I cannot claim I understand why the battery should be affected by the chipset (or why it shouldn't, for that matter).

    What kind of quirks affect the German batteries?
     
  19. maati

    maati Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know either, nor did the manufacturers (Asus) when they launched the new notebooks. So Asus just said that the V1J batteries are compatible to the V1S. I cannot understand why they don't recall these product sheets finally. This is typical for Asus, they just hush all those problems.

    The same problems with the V1J batteries like in any other country. The updated batteries cause some other, minor problems i cannot remember becaue I'm not affected.
     
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    Has anyone successfully gotten a refund from Asus on their modular batteries? I sent back my main battery for replacement due to this problem, and should have the replacement by the end of the week, but I didn't think to ask about getting refunded the $129 or whatever it was that I paid to ExcaliberPC.com for the modular battery that is now practically useless to me.
     
  21. E.B.E.

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    More than useless, if you keep it on the shelf without using it it's slowly dying...

    But there is some hope in maati's information.

    BTW maati I wasn't implying batt's in Germany have other issues than the rest of the batteries worldwide :) I was just asking whether you know about what problems the updated batteries cause.

    But, to clarify: can you confirm that the new batch of modular batteries solves the problem?
     
  22. rafiki6

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    Generally the fan will only run when the processor gets past 35% either core. This wil only usually happen if something is using the processor. Hit up Windows Task Manager, if you are using Windows, and see what is taking up the most RAM/ Processing power. Make sure its not a critical service, and if its not, then shut it off. I have had this problem and I found that Vista seems to keep programs running in the background even after I close them. My fan would go nuts for an hour. I would kill thos programs, and poof, the fan calms down and fast.
     
  23. E.B.E.

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    I think the fan is not directly related to CPU load, rather CPU temperature. Of course, CPU temperature is related to CPU load. :) So there is a clear causality.

    However, thresholds for fan speeds are specified in temperature values.
     
  24. maati

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    Unfortunately not. There is still little experience, we still don't know it.

    Finally we recieved one good answer from a very nice Asus support member. I will keep you informed about what he can tell us.