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    Asus V6Va vs Z70Va

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Zam, Dec 1, 2005.

  1. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    So I can purchase either of these machines, and can customzie them anyway I wish...

    Right now I am leaning towards the V6Va because it is much newer and also has a glossy screen.

    I would like some people who have observed the screens on both units to tell me how they are, is the glossy V6Va screen superior to the Z70va screen?

    The V6Va with the same configuration as the Z70Va will cost $200 more, and this is without all the extra accessories like optical bay battery.

    So far, the pros of the V6Va
    -Glossy Screen (but how is it?)
    -Sleeker appearence, lighter, thinner

    Pros for the Z70Va
    -Widescreen (and an EXCELLENT screen from what I hear)
    -Optical bay can be replaced with battery or HD
    -Cheaper

    I'm having trouble deciding :confused:
     
  2. HiroHanzo

    HiroHanzo Notebook Enthusiast

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    I too have decided on one of these two asus's. I love the look of the V6Va, and would get it if i could customize it (You say u can...where?), since i want 2ghz and a 5400rpm Hdd. The Z70Va has the prefered wide screen, and customizing ability.

    Im confused about how the V6Va beat out the Z70Va in 3Dmark05.
    Asus Benchmarks

    I also wish to hear comparisons between the screens. I'm buying this for school this Jan for graphic design.

    :asus:
     
  3. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    firestarter Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know if Asus knows about this site and if they would object to customizing their ensemble lineup.
     
  5. MysticGolem

    MysticGolem Asus MVP + NBR Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    oh i get Agear notebooks is doing, they remove the ASUS 2 yaer global warranty (worth about 300$) and give you Agear WArranty and then you have teh ability to customize it.

    Firstly you gots to make a decision about Screen size.

    15.4" Screen, ASUS Z70va, the SCREEN is AMAZING, non glare (not glossy), Matte finish, amazing horizontal viewing angles and really bright screen, you can run it at 3 brightness outta like 10 setttings. The Estimated total weight is 6.3lbs that's including the optical drive.

    15" screen, V6va, Nice glossy screen, i have not seen it, but pro portable is the one you should prolly buy this one from, Also yes its lighter cos its naturally smaller.

    I personaly was wondering to go 15.4" or 15", i have decided to go with 15.4" because of after reading everything about them, most user say when they swtiched to Widescreen, they loved it!!!

    So i personaly woudl say the same thing to you, get the Z70va, its simply the best 15.4" out there, with the close SAger 3880 and 5320

    So first make the decision widescreen or not.. then pick the Z70va or the V6va, all of us know these are the best in their screen size sector.

    Thanks,

    MysticGolem
     
  6. HiroHanzo

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    Agear might be my answer. Are they reputable?

    Now the only pros for Z70Va is lower price, and WS w/ a higher rez.
     
  7. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

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    ... that voids' Asus' warranty and if you do so you certainly can't extend your asus global warranty either.... I can say that if you really look at the difference between a 1.86ghz and a 2.0.... it's not worth killing your warranty over as you're not going to see much if any difference performance wise... ever. The 5400rpm drive issue, you can see a post i just made in another thread that talks about.


    But really... screen wise.... I can put it this way, pure and simple. The Z70va has the screen off the original W1n.... simply put, the best 15.4" WSXGA+ matte type display ever put on notebook. The V6va has an update from the old L5ga which again, simply put, has the finest 15.1" SXGA+ regular ratio glaretype display (looks better than my old Sony PRO CRT which was a designers best friend......

    Matte type / widescreen ..... Glaretype / regular ratio...... That's really the biggest issue because it's a personal preference no matter how good the screens are. I can personally promise you that both screens are going to be the best of that type, size and resolution that you're going to find anywhere.... but in the end both types and formats have people who love and hate both sides. The V6va's IPS screen simply put is the best mix of everything that is great about a CRT tube......perfect blacks, greater brightness and contrast.. about 175 degree viewing angles both horizontally and vertically (yes, this is one of the only glaretype displays - and the ONLY regular ratio - that has vertical angles that wide)..... with the power consumption, and thinness of an lcd..

    ... Few things have ever truly impressed me in the fives years of importing these systems.... frankly because even the worst thing they've produced is still above average for the rest of the industry. One thing that is documentable... at least from this site is my amazement of the W1n and L5ga screens..... both truly "wow'd" me and both are screens that I can guarentee are the best in the business.... That's not something I say often because sometimes it actually could become a liability for the company, but those are really the only two thing I don't think anyone could disagree with me on and be able to prove otherwise.
     
  8. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    agear offers its own warranty for 2 years
     
  9. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Its not Global though, thats the thing. May or may not matter to you however.


    Also, I think the V6va has the Zero Dead Pixel policy, which too is voided I would assume.
     
  10. AuroraS

    AuroraS Notebook Virtuoso

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    If you customize through Star Tech, I don't think the ZBD policy is voided.
     
  11. firestarter

    firestarter Notebook Evangelist

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    Personally the only thing i'd bother upgrading in the V6va would be the hard drive from 4200rpm to at least 5400rpm. The cpu upgrade, as Justin has mentioned, is really not worth spending the money over.
     
  12. PROPortable

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    Asus' warranty is voided, period if you customize an ensemble....any warranty then becomes the responsibility of the dealer. Dealer warranties are fine by you're still paying for Asus' warranty as part of the overall cost of the notebook and yet you lose a lot that is very valuable, whether you think there is a difference or not. We're an Asus Premier Partner and if anything it means we've been around as long as they have in this country and they intend to keep us around for a long time to come.... when you're talking about voiding a warranty and a company picking that up fo themselves, you have to understand they may not have the staying power of Asus and that's a confidence issue that is actually helps set the value of a warranty. StarTech will be around, but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath for anyone else.
     
  13. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Agear has been around since at least April of 2004, since that is the earliest date in which somone submitted a review of the vendor on Yahoo vendors. I presume they should be able to last at least two more years...

    But anyway, I put in my order for the V6Va. I'ts really hard for me to make decisions, as I am very indecisive. I get 'sea-sick' from deciding on one thing, then changing my mind and deciding the other thing, then going back to the first thing, and repeat and repeat.

    So, I'm already feeling sad that I didn't order the Z70Va. Someone please make me feel good that I order the V6Va so that I can sleep tonight :D
     
  14. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    does the V6Va have an S-Video port?
     
  15. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Brushed aluminum....

    OOohhh yea, you can feel that cool aluminum though your fingers....


    Don't worry about the Z70va - the V6va is a sexy beast if I ever saw one!
     
  16. Rawson819

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    You shouldn't feel sad - both systems are top notch and you'd likely not be disappointed by either one.
     
  17. trube

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    I'll give it a shot. I was looking only briefly at the one you picked but man, just looking at the build of the z70va makes me excited to get one. I bet if you glance over the review of the V6V it'll come flooding back to you why you picked such a cool machine. Now whatever you do don't read the one about the z70va again. You'll stay up crying.

    hmm. well I tried.
     
  18. AuroraS

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    Hmm...I thought it did, but upon further research, it appears that it does NOT have S-Video.
     
  19. HiroHanzo

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    Thats too bad about the S video, however i don't see myself using it. I have decided on the V6Va for its awesome apearance and a great combo of performance and mobility, but the big thing is the LCD, as I am going into graphic design school. Now I just have to wait for 10 posts to get the discount from PROportable :(

    recommendations for 2.5in hdd retailer?

    PS: ProPortable - Could you measure how tall the 100gb 4200rpm is, I would like to know what external enclosures would work with it.
     
  20. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    I think you can get an S-Video and DVI out and other things using the PCMCIA card slot. I'm not where to find such products though, although I remember seeing some before. I'll look around and post it here when i find it...
     
  21. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    trust me ZAM your purchase is a good one, the V6va is the best 15" notebook u can get, and the Z70va is the best 15.4" notebook u can get.

    Your V6va screen will look amazing for movies for sure.

    BTW, from who did u buy ur V6va? and if you did customize it, what specs did u go for?

    Also when does it arrive? What was the total cost?

    Thanks,

    MysticGolem
     
  23. exander

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    I just ordered a V6Va also. I suspect we will both be very happy when they arrive!

    :asus:
     
  24. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    I bought it from agearnotebooks.com
    2.13 GhZ P4M
    2 GB Ram
    100 GB 7200 RPM HD
    1 GB Flash drive
    cost me around 3000
    I had a big budget :D

    Should arrive on Tuesday God willing,
    perhaps I'll write a review :)
     
  25. PROPortable

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    ... I don't need to do that.... they are industry standard drives..... a 2.5" enclosure is all you need.
     
  26. HiroHanzo

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    Well I'm sure you're right. Some reviews of the enclosure i was looking at said that some drives over 9.5 mm tall wouldnt fit. No big deal.
     
  27. PROPortable

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    .... there shouldn't be any drives that are over that thickness.... 9.5mm is normal thickness for a 2.5" notebook drive.
     
  28. HiroHanzo

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    Thank you very much for your timley responses. Due to your involvement in the community and apparent knowledge I am going to purchase my v6va from you. :asus:

    Where should I purchase a 7200rpm seagate?
     
  29. DaCheese

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    Just to weight in on the 15.4 vs 15 inch screen discussion.

    I had a 15 inch before I bought my new one (15.4). I wasn't overly enthusiastic over this issue. Basically I was totally indecisive and thought, ok I buy this lappy to get me over the next few month and then next year when all the good stuff is released I buy another 14 or 15 inch notebook.

    After about 2 days I started to REALLY like this screen (its an Ferrari 4005 btw). This size is so nice!!! The V6va was my dream notebook (but I bought this one before it was released), but now I am reconsidering simply b/c of the screen size! 15.4 is just the perfect size in my opinion. Good for movies and games and also for work. I can easily have two windows side by side and the don't look akward. When I work with spreadsheets I can see more stuff than other people.....Man I wanna hug the guy who came up with this screen size :)
     
  30. PROPortable

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    Well we have tons of them for our custom builds.... it's not something we put up on the site as an seperate part but if you needed one we could certainly help.
     
  31. Zam

    Zam Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    what resolution is that machine?
    I am unimpressed with the real estate 1280x800 15.4 resolution, though everything seems to be the right size
    the 1680 x 1050 on the Z70Va sounds amazing to me, though might render everything too small even with big fonts and icons on, it seems to me it could get ackward
    1410 x 1050 on the V6Va seems like a perfect middle to me, I guess i'll know when I see it...

    I'm still having second thoughts, especialy since the V6Va has no s-video out port :( The features on the Z70Va, like the battery option for the optical bay, are really really nice...

    Is the V6Va really that much more portable than the Z70Va? Is it that much better looking? Is a glossy screen that much better? Does all this justify the loss of features and the increased price?

    :confused: :confused :confused:
     
  32. AuroraS

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    I believe the resolution on the Ferrari is also WSXGA+ (1680x1050)
    The V6Va has 1400x1050 I believe..

    Yes, the footprint of the V6Va is slightly smaller than that of the Z70Va, making it a little more portable. Also, it's roughly 0.5-1.0 lbs lighter than the Z70Va... depending on respective configurations.
    The glossy screen vs matte screen is purely subjective... I used to be a matte screen guy, but now that I've experienced both personally, I don't mind either. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
     
  33. DaCheese

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    That is correct.

    Mate vs. glare: It would seem that your eyes get tired easier on a glare type screen, but as long as you avoid direct light being reflected right onto your eyes that is not the case (at least not with my wife's S7020). If you want to take it outdoors alot I would recommend a mate screen though.
     
  34. PROPortable

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    ... I'd suggest a glaretype display outdoors actually..... with a w1 next to my w3 this summer, I could still see the screen enough to use it outside during July, where the W1's matte display would wash out. It has more to do with brightness than anything else, but the W1' screen (same one in the Z70va) is about the brightess matte display you're going to find. With the V6va, I actually expect a better view outside because my old L5 with an ACEview screen was exceptional outside because of the high brightnesss and contrast ratio.
     
  35. HiroHanzo

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    Thats wonderful to hear. I thought it might be nice to work in photoshop or corel in the outdoors. Perhaps attempt a landscape "painting".
     
  36. crafty

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    I'm new to these forums, but just thought i'd let all of you know that after much deliberation between the Z70va and the V6Va, I have decided to get the Z70va.
    I ended up with a model configuration of
    2.13 GHz, 533 Pentium M
    2048 ddr2 533 (1024mb x 2) RAM
    Seagate 100GB 7200 HD
    8x DVD Dual Layer Optical Drive
    XP Pro
    3 Years Warranty from PROPortable

    these were my reasons for deciding on the Z70va:
    -the price (with these configurations i saved many hundreds of dollars over similar setup of the v6va)
    -Widescreen (definitely a fan over the standard)
    -Matte Screen (Bright lights/reflections can trigger migraines for me)
    -Aesthetics (I found myself more attracted to the looks of the Z70va)
    -Resolution
    -Battery in front, less heat issues (from what i understand)
    -felt safer buying the customized z70va over the v6va since it was designed for it.

    However, there are certain elements to the V6Va that almost tipped the scale in it's favor.
    -Obviously it is more portable, which is important considering that I will be using this computer for class as well as frequent travel.
    -brushed aluminum + magentic latch = hot.

    In the end, however, I feel that the Z70va will still be portable enough for my needs, and it should hold up with the v6va in all areas. I'm sure i'd be happy with either notebook, but I feel like the z70va is more my speed.
     
  37. Shampoo

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    Great choice craft. It all comes down to what you want I guess, as it usually is. Glaretype normal aspect screen vs Matte widescreen. The two laptops are quite similar in specs, but not in price. I like the v6v for its slim design, but kinda pricey.

    After going widescreen it's hard to use my desktop now since I have an LG 17" CRT, which is looking a bit dull and washed out compared to my Z70Va. I like having the extra screen space with the higher resolution and it being widescreen.

    I wish the V6V came in a widescreen version, or if the prices on the W2V came down to let's say 2200 oooooooh yeah. haha one can only dream.

    Cheers,
    Mike
     
  38. pyro_dragun

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    Ahhh, too bad the V6va or Z70Va wasn't out when I bought my laptop. IMO, the only disadvantage about these laptops is the ATI video card rather than nVidia. Of course that really only matters if you are considering running linux on the laptop. Both of those look awesome, and I am sure you will be happy with whatever you buy. ASUS makes rock solid notebooks. I am quite happy with my Z71V that I bought in July.
     
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