The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    Asus W7J $1350 at ewiz

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by mikez, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. mikez

    mikez Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    18
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  2. philibuster

    philibuster Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    interesting... I wonder why they dropped the price.
     
  3. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    4,977
    Messages:
    34,000
    Likes Received:
    1,413
    Trophy Points:
    581
    Nice find. Could be a price mistake. I would recommend overnight shipping hopefully before they catch it although it is $90 for overnight negating much of the savings.
     
  4. mikez

    mikez Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    18
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I don't think it's a price mistake since it's only about $50 cheaper than before.
     
  5. idex

    idex Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    94
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    soo tempted.... :cool:
     
  6. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    908
    Messages:
    5,056
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    Wow! Thats really cheap! Great find! :D
     
  7. bobz99by

    bobz99by Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    21
    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    gah....money...or battery life
     
  8. speedfrk

    speedfrk Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    A8jm is also the same- 1349.30
    Time to pull the trigger.
     
  9. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    951
    Messages:
    2,739
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I'm really hoping that the prices for both are no mistake! :eek:
     
  10. speedfrk

    speedfrk Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I don't think they are a mistake since they were 1395.00 earlier in the day. It is only 50.00 but hey, 50.00 is a tank of gas :)
    BTW, Newegg is out of stock on both of these now.
     
  11. Mikeoo17

    Mikeoo17 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    261
    Messages:
    731
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    30
    This thread looks very familiar...

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=62642



    Can you believe these guys still havent responded to my email about shipping to Canada!!!! I mean really, i'd buy it if the price was right...

    I couldnt imagine how long it would take to get back to me if I had a problem :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  12. bcretty

    bcretty Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    13
    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I bought my w7j last Monday and had it shipped UPS ground the same day for $1417. It should arrive by 7/11. They say patience is a virtue. Oh well... great find. Go for it.

    Bri
     
  13. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    691
    Messages:
    4,770
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Ye 1350$ is at cost or about 2% above cost. Thats crazy but that is ewiz. They function somewhat like newegg does. 0-5% markups
     
  14. MilestonePC.com

    MilestonePC.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    160
    Messages:
    1,973
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    If count in the credit card company charge, that price is abusolutely losing money. No doubt. but why?
     
  15. aldem

    aldem Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    143
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Guys, does that mean that you operate on a less than 10% margin or is it more like with car dealers when the "invoice price" is not the actual cost for the dealer? I don't expect you to open up all your trade secrets, but it is an interesting subject. If it is indeed only 10% then I'd say it's pretty tough...
     
  16. mikez

    mikez Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    18
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I'm thinking the same thing...It seems like one of those car dealers to me.
     
  17. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

    Reputations:
    1,059
    Messages:
    2,633
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    When Eddie says cost, he's talking about what he pays Asus to get the unit. Yes, margins in notebook sales are typically in the range of ~5-10% per piece max; this fact surprises a lot of folks. And that's before the CC takes 2-2.5% of the sales price as their cut (which is why some vendors give discounts for non-CC transactions). It's definitely not like auto invoice pricing.

    Perhaps Ewiz is trying the B&M loss leader phenomenon (i.e. after-Thanksgiving sales), losing money on the sale item to get you into the store and then purchase other stuff at regular markup? Wouldn't make a lot of sense.... maybe they just want to offload them. NewEgg has huge sales volume, which is how they can make decent profits off minimal markups.

    In the end, keep in mind that you get what you pay for, and the resellers here will provide infinitely better service after the sale than you'll ever have a prayer of seeing from Ewiz :)
     
  18. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    691
    Messages:
    4,770
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Cant speak for anyone else but 10% here is a good day. 5% is an average i would say. Sometimes less. It depends though. You cant really hurdle all the barebones together with complete systems. Sometimes we make 0% on the barebones sometimes 5% sometimes 10%. FOr complete systems we usually make the 10%. for the w7j disti price is 1310. Every disty will not go below the 1% margin to figure ewis price is 1320. They are making their 1-2% here....
     
  19. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    691
    Messages:
    4,770
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    A dealer can get rid of a car at tissie price. It all depends on the buyer. Most car dealers are absolute crooks just like most computer dealers i imagine. They can sell the car at cost but no matter what there is always funding on the back end. FOr dealers honda will give them 500-1000 on every car they sell. So at cost is not always at cost. For computers asus gives marketing funds for example. You have volume, shipping, and all that makes you bigger. The trick is finding a balance. Most computer companies find their balance in increasing sales but declining customer support,.
     
  20. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    689
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i personally won't pay more to get it from a trusted reseller.
    i just want the cheapest.
    risky, but then again, i've never had a problem with Asus stuff.
    Asus themselves give a 1y warranty.
    could someone pls tell me why i'd want to buy from a more truster (and expensive) reseller ?
    i mean, my friend bought from a reseller and paid more last year, but they still just sent him to the manufacturer for the warranty (MSI) so if the reseller is just gonna do that, why pay more ?
     
  21. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    691
    Messages:
    4,770
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Thats most of msi resellers. That is how they work. Its abit different with asus. Asus has a handfull of reselelrs that do 100% in house rma. Whats the reason to go with trusted vendor? I guess if i sent you the couple hundred rma's we had in a few months, many of which are out of warranty you would understand. what do you do when your vendor tells you "sorry its out of warranty cant help you? What do you do when your vendor cant help you in warranty? I guess you wouldnt know becuase you never had asus stuff break on you. Take it from someone who approves rma multiple times per day. A dealer warranty is worth it. In the case of ensembles unless you customize then there is no dealer warranty. With barebones its a whole different ball game
     
  22. SRD

    SRD Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    133
    Messages:
    2,089
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    I have alot of distrubuters i use for my Home theatre company. I can even be a dealer for asus products if i want i can order barbones or even built barbones and ensembles straight from the distributer. But i have owned like 5 asus and bought all from different dealers on this site. The reason being i was amazed that my price was actually the same or more than what these guys are selling it for there was no savings. IM amazed these guys stay in bussiness. i would rather support all these resellers than buy an asus straight from my distributer just to help them out. New egg sells stuff for pretty much cheaper than i could buy it for at dealer cost.
     
  23. michdude

    michdude Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    42
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Call me crazy too but I would not buy from anyone other than a reseller for a million reasons. Did you ever call them to discuss your options? I have and each time I was amazed at how much time they gave me [speaking here specifically of Proportable, PortableOne, Allsus.com,Geared2Play, and Powernotebooks] and how well they knew their stuff. Try calling Tigerdirect or Newegg and getting such info out of them.

    Most of these guys offer their own warranty which is worth everything to me because even though Asus is fine, they're no comparison to these folks and what they'll do for you.

    Asus in my mind is a brand name for which you pay for certain "perks" if you will. The reseller concept with service you'll never see anywhere is one of those and if it costs me fifty bucks more to do my part to keep them running, it's worth every penny.

    Just my thoughts.
     
  24. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    689
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    maybe i shouldn't have been so against it.
    i'm now a little interested however.
    so, if it breaks, i send it back to the reselller and they fix it and send it back free ?
    is this their base warranty for buying from them, or is that extra on top of the regular price ?
     
  25. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    691
    Messages:
    4,770
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Well lets separate ensemble from barebones. Ensemble carries asus warranty only unless modded by dealer in which case dealer will advertise their own warranty (not always ofcourse some dealers will mod it and tell you to screw your self if asus declines it). Now speaking of barebones. Asus barebones starting with "z" are dealer warranty however asus has been known to pick up the slack for the less "fortunate" resellers. Now with intel vbi program all barebones starting with "s" are posed to be reseller warranty only. Intel says they will not talk to end user. Not sure how this will work for them because most of the companies selling "s" series barebones dont know what they are selling or how to fix it. Meaning if you dont buy from the handfull of asus vendors that actually provide warranty like they are suposed to you may need luck in the future.
     
  26. Dio

    Dio Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    153
    Messages:
    311
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    They have the Asus A8JM at a real sweet heart of a price too, man hard to walk away from those prices.

    I guess if you dont mind the risk associated with the likes of that types of etailers then by all means.
    However I bought my Z70VA from agearnootbooks, and I indeed perfer the types of service the likes of Proportable, geared2play provide here to the community and the insights.


    http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=DM-AS-A8J
     
  27. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    689
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i'm looking to buy the A8JM. as you know it's an ensemble
    from what you said, it would appear you wouldn't warranty it anyway, so there's no benefit from buying from you over ewiz, as it's just asus' warranty
    is that a correct assumption ?
     
  28. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    691
    Messages:
    4,770
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    We dont even sell it and never will. s62j is less expensive and for all practical purposes in the same league except it offers dealer warranty which may not always bee a positive thing depending on where youbuy it.
     
  29. Darrick

    Darrick Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    46
    Messages:
    1,098
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Syxbit: I believe the only resellers in the US that have the A8Jm are PortableOne, MilestonePC and GentechPC (1toppc). If you want, you could probably ask them how they'll handle the warranty.
     
  30. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    689
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ordered from eWiz.com for $1350 +$18 ship (no tax)
    can't beat that price, and if warranty is through Asus anyway, who cares where i buy it from!
     
  31. TheCrash

    TheCrash Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    If I may ask...why don't you sell the A8Jm?
    Just curious...........
     
  32. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    2,319
    Messages:
    14,119
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    455
    It's a Canadian unit, dealers import them(or come down) to the US, that's the only way for it to actually be sold in the US. I would assume it would be too much of a hassle, and there are already other dealers whom do that.
     
  33. Darrick

    Darrick Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    46
    Messages:
    1,098
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Although I believe one of the resellers said in another thread that ASUS NA released the remaining stock to anybody interested, hence the now availability at NewEgg etc...
     
  34. justskipee

    justskipee Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Just bought my W7J from ewiz.com for $1,349.30 plus 20 dollars shipping. That is the cheapest I have found anywhere. This is too exciting. Can anyone tell me where to get that 9-cell optional battery?
     
  35. Outrigger

    Outrigger SupaStar Reviewer NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    167
    Messages:
    1,067
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    can't tell you where to get the 9 cell but yes they are the cheapest I have found for my asus as well. shipped fast, got it 2nd day shipping.
     
  36. SRD

    SRD Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    133
    Messages:
    2,089
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    The 9cell isnt out for it yet.
     
  37. loopdot

    loopdot Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Proportable lists a 9-cell on their site, which it says is for the W7j/W5f.
     
  38. Mikeoo17

    Mikeoo17 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    261
    Messages:
    731
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I was just going to say... W5F 9 cell is the same exact battery, down to the product number, as the W7J
     
  39. resyeK

    resyeK Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    They are different, I can't find the thread, but the connection is in a different place.
     
  40. MrBamboo

    MrBamboo Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    133
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  41. Goren

    Goren Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    951
    Messages:
    2,739
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    just a quick update, the W7s are no longer $1349 at Ewiz, it went up another $100, and there's no A8jm there either.
     
  42. mikez

    mikez Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    18
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    If you search via froogle, it's only 1395..
     
  43. speedfrk

    speedfrk Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I bought my A8Jm (1380.00 shipped) on friday and it was shipped that day. The girl I talked to said they had plenty of them- whatever that means. UPS says delivery on 7-14.
    Looking forward to it...
     
  44. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    689
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i ordered on fri too, but when they called to confirm the order i wasn't there
    i had to wait till monday to call back.
    i did, they confirmed, but then called back to say it was OOS.
    they said they "might" get more in 2 weeks.
    they would honour the same price however.
    this sucks as i'm traveling to europe early August.
    is this typical of ewiz?
     
  45. speedfrk

    speedfrk Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Last I looked, Newegg had them in stock. 50.00 more, but cheaper shipping. Probably only 20-30.00 difference total. Plus Newegg has standard 3 day shipping and eWiz put mine on the boat from China.
     
  46. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

    Reputations:
    418
    Messages:
    8,782
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Asus will not be filling any orders for ewiz until they change their price. In fact, that's what's going to happen everywhere. Asus is going back to a program I helped them start a couple years back to guarentee Asus' notebooks sell at what Asus wants them to. A few of us are bound to sell at MSRP or not sell Asus' notebooks at all, yet we really don't get a single thing from Asus for having that closer relationship. When Asus started selling through distribution, Asus stopped having control of their pricing for places they bought through distys, but they're bringing back a program which will make everyone sell with $1 of each other.
     
  47. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    691
    Messages:
    4,770
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I doubt that is going to happen Justin. Frankly they have no control over it and they wont listen to one dealer that doesnt like it. I am not going to complain. I can lower my price just as much as the next jerk. Doesnt bother me at all. I dont care if ewiz sells at cost. When they run out we will still have them. If they sell at cost that means they are dumping and prolly wont bring it back into inventory next time if they even had it on hand to begin with. How else are they posed to sell besides disty. WHat did you think you were going have a monopoly on asus laptops just because you were one of the first to stock them years ago. This is business. Early bird doesnt always get to eat all the worms. The bird with the most sales volume usually wins in the business of selling products that you do not warranty. Not the same in the built on asus sector but we are not talking about that. Your service for ensembles is not any better then ewiz. You just know the product. So naturally people will ask you questions then buy from ewiz. Its the nature of the biz. Find the cheapest price. Tis the reason why built on asus laptops remain one of our focus sectors. We dont have to compete with anyone becuase there is no other that can offer the service we can. I frankly dont care for ensembles. If i have to i will sell them at cost. have done in the past. Its not our product. I dont care if they work or break. That problem falls on asus shoulder/
     
  48. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

    Reputations:
    418
    Messages:
    8,782
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Sorry Pal, but my old program is going back into effect whether you like it or not. It's meant to help keep you and I and others onboard. If Asus loses complete control, their products will lose all integrity when the only dealers that know anything about them and stock, simply stop selling them.
     
  49. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

    Reputations:
    691
    Messages:
    4,770
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    MSRP=manufacturer SUGESTED non mandatory.
    Justin you lost this battle. Your old program whatever it was called never went into effect. The few times you complained about msrp being lower someone at asus called me and i told them exactly what i told you. We sell at msrp. Its none of your business what kind of rebates we offer. They offer rebates so can we and any other joe. Lower your price like the rest of us and there would be no problem. You can also offer customization for these laptops. Wouldnt hurt
     
  50. mikez

    mikez Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    18
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    If I would ever order an Asus notebook, Portable and Milestone are the last two places I would go to.
     
 Next page →