Asus g1 or g2?

Im looking for a nice gaming laptop, and i found these two. I was wonding which would be better for me. Im really into gaming, which is better for gaming? Which is better for dx10/vista? Does any1 own either of these? Please help.
Thanks

 

There pretty much the same all around. The only difference is the 15.4" and 17" screen, build design, and the $100 price difference

 

About this, you can ask more in Asus forum.

G2 pros: bigger screen, dual lamp, fast resonse 8ms. Express card slot
Cons: Low resolution screen. The graphic card should be a better one than ATI X1700.

G1 Pros: slightly more powerful Gforce 7700 gfx card. 15.4" SXGA screen resolution.
Cons: doesn't support Expresscard slot. Only PCMCIA


That's my opinion. I have some concerns as you do between 15.4" or 17". IT's a hard choice for me since these models share similar specs. Most people prefer G1.

 

ok. Thanks for the fast and helpful responces.

 

Is there any difference between them for dx10 and vista?

 

Neither of them are DX10, but BOTH are Vista capable. The main differences lie in the GPU, size and color. The G1 carries an Nvidia card, and has green accents with a 15.4" screen. The G2 has an ATi card with red accents and a 17" screen. Both will perform nearly identically, so it really matters how much more laptop you want to carry around with you. I typically go for 17" screens, but with the same performance, the G1 wins my vote.

 

As far as I know, they both do not support DX10, and both come with the free upgrades to Vista Home Premium edition.

 

I don't know about DX10 yet. I think the DX 10 GPU now is the Nviida 8800 and the new ATI card.

Both of these models G1, G2,is vista ready. You will not have to worry about it. They should perform very well. The power of these notebooks is very good.

 

You will need to wait if you are looking for a DX10 capable gpu.

 

If I were you I would choose the G1 instantly... The Geforce Go 7700 is (slightly) better than a ATI X1700. The 7700 even got a higher 3Dmark06 (check this page: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-Go-7700.2142.0.html) The 15.4 inch screen for the G1 means that you don't need to carry a 17 inch laptop around (which is of course quite heavy for a laptop and it's call a desktop replacement). The max resolution for the G1 is 1680x1050 and the max resolution for the G2 is only 1440x900 which pretty much says it all. Why would you want a bigger screen with a smaller resolution anyway... As stated above both will not be able to use DX10 so don't worry about it.

 

ok, thx. 1-Are either cards swapable for a dx10 card [when they come out]?
2-How long does the free vista upgrade offer last until?

 

1 - I'm not sure but I think I heard it somewhere that both card will not be swapable for a dx10 card...

2 - No idea... doesn't it say on the product web page?

 

Hi,

The G1 and G2s are not GPU upgradable...

 

Mobile DX10 GPUs look like they may be released sooner than previously anticipated. If you really want DX10, you're better off waiting than trying to buy a DX9 card now with the idea of upgrading later.

 

is there a big difference in price? is it well off about 2g?

 

Any idea when that may be chrisyano?

 

Just 1 quick question: How much memory do you guys think (or predict) those new mobile dx10 cards will generally have? Would they have 768mb same as the geforcee 8800GTX or would they be lower (such as 640mb or even lower than that)??? Thx

 

No, the Go 8600 will probably have something like 256 MB or 512 MB. The slower Go 8400 will probably have something like 256 MB maximum. Some of this maybe turbocahced RAM, although it isn't confirmed yet. The Go 8800, which will take a long time to come out, will probably have 512 MB as well. nVidia will reduce the memory bus to 256-bit, so save on manufacturing costs and also power consumption. It is unlikely that it will have a 384-bit bus, but it is possible. If that is the case, then it may well have 768 MB. However, a Go 8800 card will only be available in large 17" notebooks.

 

The G1 is $1800 USD and the G2P is $1900, only a $100 difference but your deciding factor should be whether you want a 15.4" or a 17" notebook?

@ Aceimager

Basicaly what happened was DX10 cards were supposed to be released in the second have of this year. However we are now seeing laptops with specs and about to be released with DX10 GPU's.

The motivating factor a little while ago was the integration of DX10 programs and games, since DX10 games will most likely start coming out after the second half of the year.

Now it seems that the motivating factor is to stay on top of technology and Vista. This ends up being better for consumers anyways. Less wait times for consumers looking for the latest and greatest.

 

does any1 know if dx10 cards are going to cost a lot more than about $2200? Does any1 know when they will be avalible?

 

I was also looking at the dell e1705. Any suggestions?

 

Go to the Dell site, configure the e1705 to match the G2 or be better in specs, apply any coupons and you will see if there's a big price difference.

I expect DX10 GPU prices to be roughly the same as when the previous generation of GPUs were released. I wouldn't count on having a 8600 that costs 500$ which would make a 1200$ laptop into a 1700$. The prices will and should be reasonable for the market to handle, otherwise no one could afford it.

But if your looking for highend GPUs like the 8800GTX or GTS style GPU's in highend 17" notebooks, yes you will see relatively high prices, because those GPU's cost a lot to make, and especially if they will be using more than 512mb of vram.

 

i just went to the dell website and configed a e1705. it came to 2200 for wuxga lcd, 2gb 667 ram, geforce go 7900gs, 2ghz core2duo.and express upgrade to vista home.
i also heard that the e1705 has mxm so i can just buy a dx10 card and swap, right?

also, i just want a "mid range" dx10 card. 2256mb/512mb vram is fine.

 

2256mb??? Anyway, how much kg does a 17inch laptop normally weights? I've been using a 15.4 inch laptop and mine weights a bit more than 3kg... If a 17 inch laptop weights less than 5kg then maybe I will consider getting a high-end dx10 card laptop later this year.... Otherwise, I think I will just stick with 15.4 inch laptops...

 

FrostFire Dell has their own technology in which it allows them to interchange GPU's for some of their laptops. They do not use MXM from my understanding.

Will you be able to purchase a DX10 card in the future and put it into a E1705, I don't think so, but it would seem possible with their technology. If you really want a DX10, I would suggest you wait for them to be released and when companies/brands start to offer them for their laptops.

I wouldn't rely on upgrading, since it has been roughly 1+ years since we have heard and seen MXM technology, and we have yet to hear anyone use it for upgrading, but Dell using their own technology, which works well for them.

 

For the money, the G2 is beyond a good system compared to what else is on the market. I perfer the W2, but out of the box the 3dmark numbers on the G2 are closer to that of the G1 than the W2. Upgradable graphics card formats really failed, and failed miserably.... basically because it just put one more limitation on creativity. Asus has many different form factors they use for graphics cards, and although removeable and replaceable, they can't be considered "upgradeable" because the next generation card simply may not fit..... it doesn't exist yet, how are they to know? One good thing is that as long as a model is refreshed, as the new G1 and G2 will be for the next 2-3 years, there is a good chance that you'll be able to swap out your graphics card with a new one from the new model...... However, there is always the chance that you couldn't, but on a model the size of the G2, there's plenty of room inside, so the need to move things around with new chipsets is less of a concern with something like that than it is with something half its size.

 

Ok. I guess all my questions and concerns have been answered. Thanks everyone.
Also, I have decided on the g1. Its a more comfortable size, better gpu, higher res lcd....a $100, and more made me decide. Hopefully like proportable said, I will be able to swap the gpu with a dx10 from a new model/refeshed thats released.
Anyway, thanks again fot all the help!