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    Asus w3v over heating issues

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by tonydt1g3r, Mar 31, 2007.

  1. tonydt1g3r

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    lately I've been playing video games and my notebook will just over heat and restart. Its going above 65c. I am not playing any crazy games just warcraft III which is quite old. I am running NHC and its on dynamic switching. its clocked down a tad but nothing crazy. I also have 2 gb of ram. I am guessing the extra stick of ram in there isnt helping much in creating less heat. Before it was restarting like crazy then I cleaned out the vent and fan full of dust now it takes a little bit longer before it restarts but I am finding it to be a big problem the idle cpu temp at 800 mhz is 53-54c. any ideas on what I should do to keep the temp down. Its also on a notebook cooker but I doubt it helps much since there isnts any vents on the bottom.
     
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    well its not overheating at that temp. that is quite normal. i am guessing you already cleaned the radiator. your problem is probably related to warcraft it self. an easy way to test the laptop hardware is just run multiple loops of 3dmark. also you should disbale nhc and see if that helps. wc3 has quite many issues stemming from dx and drivers issues. rule out your laptop first by running lopps of 3dmark. you will find that 3dmark passes everytime.
     
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    I play WC3 A LOT and I haven't had problems with random restarting or crashing on my w3v.
     
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    does it have arctic silver 5 on it, if not add some!
     
  5. tonydt1g3r

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    yea I think it might be the thermal cpu glue stuff, its probally old and not sitting well. Its not just warcraft III its basically any game.
     
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    It could be anything but it's not the CPU over heating. 65C is not even close to being dangerous for that CPU.
     
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    If it is doing it with any game then I am willing to bet that it is over heating.



    Right but we really do not have enough facts to be sure for sure it's the CPU over heating, I am leaning towards it being the CPU, and here is why.

    He never stated 65c as being a load temp, only that when idle down to 800mhz some where around 53-54c, so I am assuming that 65c is under regular processor speeds. What he should do is check load temps, if it starts climbing to 70c then 75c up to 80c and past then you most deff got over heat issues with CPU..

    My mom has a toshiba satalite only a few months old and she cant play any games. It over heats and shuts down.. average temp while browsing the internet is like 70c to 75c and anything that uses a little CPU takes it up over 80c, and games well yeah it keeps rising.

    So check your load temps, I think there is a free program called prime 95 if im not mistaken which will stress your CPU up to 100% usage, monitor temps while your doing that and come back with a report.. :D
     
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    On this processor Intel's thermal protection doesn't kick in until 125C. Their thermal envelope calculations are done at 100C.

    I agree with running Prime95 to check load temps.
     
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    where can I get this info? thanks
     
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    must be your graphic card...i have the same issue too my A8JP couldn't handle it...i guess is because of the stupid graphic card...!! :mad:
     
  12. tonydt1g3r

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    I never said 65 was the top limit, I was only giving out over 65 because thats what I have seen. Also could it be the GPU over heating? I am not sure if I am able to view the GPU temperature. CUrrently the GPU has a small square patch of some thermal thing, its not like the cpu thermal stuff. Its liek a square peice of rubber almost. You can peel it off and stick it on. its not like glue or artic silver ect. Could I replace the current patch with artic silver?
     
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    Don't remove the thermal pad or try to replace it with AS5. Usually they use thermal pad because the gap is too large for thermal paste to fill. I wouldn't play with it much either, the surfaces need to stay as clean as possible.

    Give Prime95 a try and see what temps you reach, and if it's stable at that temp.
     
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    I think it might have been my gpu I was running dual screen on a 22" widescreen plus my notebook monitor. I have since turned off my dual monitor and only use the 22" widescreen, seems to crash less. I was running at over 80 degrees celcius while playing counter strike source which I thought was a tad high so I put some new thermal glue on the cpu. any idea where I can get a new thermal pad for the gpu?
     
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    Why don't u try getting an external fan/ laptop cooler. I got one for $20 on newegg and both my cpu and hard drive temps are significantly lower (5 C for hard drive and 10 C for cpu).
     
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    pretty sure its the GPU. I dont think its getting enough cooling down. I have a cooling pad doesnt help my games still restart on me. I wish I had a better gpu heat sync
     
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    Do you think it would be ok if I replaced that thick thermal pad for the GPU with some artic silver? I would have to apply alot of artic silver though to fill the gap
     
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    THAT IS INFACT THE FASTEST WAY to burn the gpu. the heatsink is designed specifically for a thermal pad, replacing it with paste will burn it down.
     
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    Yeah, it won't make proper contact with the GPU, resulting in a very crispy GPU not too soon thereafter.

    A laptop cooler might help, but the inevitable problem is simply that there is too much heat/activity going on.

    Maybe you might want to permanently downclock and undervolt the CPU and GPU?
     
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    I have replaced the thermal pad and placed a polished 1 millimeter aluminum sheet metal sandwiched with artic silver on the heatsink on the GPU. For most people you won't be able to access it since it's right under the keyboard top case(remove the keyboard and you'll see the aluminum heatsink area, right under the square shape is the GPU), you would need to remove the the top case which is screwed onto the mainboard.

    So basically, it would require you to dismantle every single component from top case which includes the mainboard. Even after I replaced thermal pad with the aluminum sheet metal, I haven't noticed any much thermal benefits or if any. I think the limitation is actually the thermal dissipation of the cpu fan and air chamber.

    I would leave the stock thermal pad and save the hassle.

    However, I did notice that by removing the black plastic sheet right under the keyboard gave a much cooler result to both the GPU and cpu provided that you don't own a faster hard drive. Since the air chambers are all connected( even to the hard drive area), removing the sheet would provide absolutely no cooling for the harddrive. So if you have a 5400 rpm or 7200 rpm monitor your HDD thermal temps (from NHC) and if you are reaching 55-60 degrees without a cooling pad placed on wooden table(for some reason I find wood as an insulator and you reach higher temps), I would recommend you placing the black sheet back on.
     
  21. tonydt1g3r

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    tthis is a stupid question but I am running NHC where do I look at the GPU temp and what is a godo runnign temp?. Also When gaming my CPU reaches 70's degree celcius. Whats a good cpu temp at full load
     
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    I use Speedfan for the GPU temp monitoring under Remote Temp. Ignore all other temp readings as they can be incorrect(except for HDDs).