Asus with matte 15.4" 1680/1050 screen

Hi,
Is there any chance to find asus with Intel core 2 duo e6600 and matte 15.4" 1680/1050 screen? I've been looking for a high end laptop, but could not find a matte high resolution screen but @ hp& lenovo. However, no e6600 option.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks

 

the E6600 is a desktop proccy, there not that common hp notebooks

 

The European version of the V1S comes with a 1680x1050 screen, in the US it has a reflective.

 

Check out @ www.circuitcity.com for the velocity laptops: one has e6600, the other one e6700. I have not found another laptop with desktop processor ! Still, can I replace the glossy screen with a matte one?

 

In general desktop CPUs are hard to find in laptops The reason: self-explanatory.

ASUS C90 does come with a desktop CPU but it has many issues (it's picky about RAM, for instance) and the desktop CPU taxes battery life significantly, as well as needing a battery of 4 fans to keep it cool. I think the velocity things are rebranded C90 but I'm not sure.

As explained before, in EU you might have a (very, very slim chance) of getting a good laptop with matte screen (any laptop). In US, the chances are even slimmer. To find one with a matte screen AND a desktop CPU... hardly possible.

Why do you need the desktop CPU anyway? The current laptop CPUs will cut through nearly any task you throw at them like butter.

 

Hi, e.b.e. ! Very kind reply !
I should be more specific about what I want from a laptop. I'm currently using a 2 y/o HP Pavilion zv 6201, still working well >6 hrs/day on average ! However, it's glossy& my eyes are getting easily tired, it's become slow /noticeable when powering up& down and transferring files/ and noisy. It still has some good features as I describe below. I've tried on other threads on this forum, looking for an upgrade for this hp, but I can only put in more RAM, which I did (it has 1.5 GB now), and get a new hard disk - of which I'm thinking right now, but don't know it it's worth trying or looking for a new laptop. The Hitachi 7k100 hard disk looks like a good deal on newegg these days, btw.
So, what I'd be looking for in a new laptop:
1.matte high resolution screen
2.powerful dual core, capable of multiple tasking, but not much of a gaming stuff. www.cpubenchmark.net shows that e6600/6700 are more powerful than T7200-7700. That's why I'm looking for a desktop processor. You might say I'd probably don't need it !
3.Durability - I'm not buying a laptop every year, but it's been 2 yrs since I bought my HP and it's dying now. Therefore, I'm looking for one to last for ~ 5 yrs.
4.Many ports ! My HP has a PCMCIA port, very useful to connect my external eSATA drives through an adapting card. I can also multiply my USB& Firewire ports with an express port adapting card, I can also use my Fuji xd card and a few other devices. Newer laptops don't have PCMCIA, some not even the express port.
Asus seems to be a good choice, the components inside Velocity are like inside Asus C90. I'm only dissapointed by its glossy screen. Is there any chance to change the screen to a matte one? I've seen hp compaq business laptops with a great matte finish, eg nc8510 or the earlier 8430, or 6710. In the end, I'm left between the Asus& hp compaq business I guess...
Thanks for following on this thread !

 

Battery life not that bad compared to most current Asus notebooks. Fans don't make much of a difference, it has 4 little fans while a standard gaming notebook has 2 but they are bigger so it's equal, they also don't work on power saving mode (at leasr on my cool E4500, might be different on a 6700)

And yes the velocity are rebranded and bit more expensive I think. I also believe many people buying a VM one had more problems.

@OP: Well yes they are, my E4500 is as powerfull as the T7500 to let you think.

 

Hi there, You could try the V1s as mentioned above, It comes with a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, But you havent really told us exactly what your doing, The only tasks that will benefit from a very high CPU speed are Gaming, Rendering, File Encryption, and Video Transcoding. Its a layover from the old pentium days advertising that people think a faster processor will make their email and documenet writing load and work faster, it honsestly wont unless your trying to run 600 windows at once.

If your concerned about noise which you mention as a concern then I would not be getting the C90, As mentioned above it has 4 fans that need to be on constantly, the C90 from memory also only comes with a one year warranty, most Asus notebooks come with 2.

If your worried about tired eyes why do you want to get a 1680x1050 screen? Thats the fastest way to give you tired eyes.

It might help if you filled out the what notebook should I buy in the FAQ section as it would help us know what you plan to use the computer for, and where you are, If you are in Europe the V1S sounds like a perfect option. You havent mentioned money yet so you could actually buy a replacement matte screen and install it, there are a few dealers which will sell them to you, but they are expensive, around 5-6 hundred.

In regards to ports I have not seen any current laptops without an ExrpressCard port, and you can easily get a expresscard-sata card, theres a review of mine in my signature. Also the V1S has a Esata port as standard.

 

You don't hear them on power saving mode

 

THEY ARE THE SAME LAPTOPS!!!. The Velocity is just rebranded and its priced high.

 

Hi, I live in Arizona, USA. I just realized that I'm targetting a business laptop, as I'm not a gamer. How about hp -don't know which ! - I'm thinking of nc8510 or nc6710. What do you think?
Thanks for all your kind replies !

 

I don't know those types but usually the HP Compaq business line (the slim, squarish, gray ones) are solid computers. I would perhaps recommend one over a V1S (the V1S has certain issues). But it's up to you to decide.

I would say a priori, indeed, that you do NOT need the desktop CPU power. What are the tasks that you plan to run, as asked before? I suspect office work. If it's not numerical simulations, video encoding, or heavy-duty gaming, DO NOT GET A DESKTOP CPU. You are sacrificing portability without any benefit.

 

Yes, it's office work that I'm doing, presentations, downloading, multimedia ripping& alikes. I'm mostly using the laptop as a desktop, b/c I get close to an outlet wherever I go. Your guess is correct.
Which type of "HP Compaq business line (the slim, squarish, gray ones)" are you referring to - 8510 or 6710? The 8510 are extremely expensive, but I might find a good deal somewhere.
Thanks again !

 

Hi there, You do not need a Desktop processor for that, even if you are going to be plugged in its a waste, Notebooks that use desktop processors need alot more fans, and much bigger cases to help disapate the heat, they also get alot hotter. Notebook processors are still extremely powerful, The company I work for is still using P4's in all their desktops and they perform very well, But My laptops 2.2ghz C2D outperforms it by leaps and bounds.

If you want a business laptop with high build quality I would look at the higher end HP's, the V1S (Its has issues though), and some of the Fujitsu and NEC range.

If you want a business laptop on a budget take a look at the Dell XPS. But there just artn many options in matte screens, I would strongly suggest you fill out the what should I buy FAQ and alot more people will give you answers as opposed to just Asus users which is what your getting in the Asus forums

 

Hi, matt,
Thanks again for your kind reply. The main reason why I'm posting here it's b/c asus is upgradable. Is there any other brand name that I can upgrade in ~ 2-3 yrs from now? I haven't found one.

 

I dont understand what you mean by upgradeable, You can upgrade the CPU, Ram, and HD and DVD drive on any notebook (Except super some super portables that are soldered in place).

The only other part you would need to upgrade is the GPU, There are very few models that can do this, the C90 is one of them, but it does not come with a matte screen, you can only upgrade the GPU to other C90 GPU's Theres a good chance Asus will not release the next 9XXX GPU's to be compatiable with the C90, its happened before.

Keep in mind after three years, The notebook in general will be in pretty bad shape, Screens dull and get odd marks, touchpads protective layer wear off, DC jacks break.

Honestly in 3 years time given the choice of upgrading or buying a new machine, You will probally upgrade because parts three years from now will not be compatiable with current specifications, The next series of CPU's are not compatiable with the current range, DDR3 will be replacing DDR2 in the next 2 years, and USB 3.0 and Sata 6.0 should be out in 3 years.

 

ASUS is as (non)upgradeable as any other laptop. Indeed the CPU, wireless and some few other things are REMOVABLE but that doesn't mean they are UPGRADEABLE -- usually CPU sockets change fast so you cannot include a new gen CPU, and so on.

The only upgradeable things on a laptop are the RAM and the HDD, and possibly adding an extra batt or HDD in the modular bay, if there is one. Besides that, things have to be external and all the rest remains the same. That's life

Upgradeability is not a feasible consideration when buying laptops in 2007. It might be so in 2009-2010, at the earliest, I would say -- but not before that.

Just get something that suits you well now, and that's it. And do NOT get a desktop CPU (i.e., in the ASUS C90) for office work, it is simply not worth it, as I said you sacrifice a lot of portability without any real-life benefit.

 

You're all very nice guys on this forum ! I appreciate your input.
I've been trying to post my issues with the HP Pavilion in a different section, but no valuable answer so far.
What do I mean by upgradeable: to change the processor, video card, DVD drive (in case you only have a combo cd/dvd), to add RAM& extra batt. In my case, I would be just fine if I could put a dual core instead of the AMD Athlon 3200+ on the 939 socket, and change the screen to a matte one.
I've got 1.5 GB RAM& the Hitachi 7k100 6ATA is on the way. On another secttion they told me that this is not possible, so I migrated here.
I'm only using the laptop as a desktop, there are outlets everywhere I go: job, school, library etc
Thanks again.

 

As others have pointed out, you're trying to build a desktop in a notebook machine. Notebooks, with few exceptions, are generally NOT upgradeable - after a couple of years, neither Asus (and nobody, for that matter) is going to be upgrading the BIOS to support whatever new CPU there is (and it would need a new motherboard anyway since Intel is changing the chipsets every 2 years or so now), gpu support for the C90 depends on whether the model still exists 2-3 years from now (most Asus models have a lifespan of 2-3 years before they're phased out), and matte screens are going away (few major manufacturers even have a matte screen in their lineup anymore in the consumer end).

For the cost you're assuming after putting all your changes in (CPU, GPU, Optical, RAM, Screen), you're going to be spending nearly the same amount as a high-spec Sager or other DTR system which you may be better off purchasing since it's all put together at once and warrantied. Notebooks are meant to be portable and not spec-for-spec equivalent to desktop systems, they never are. I'll third (or fourth) the recommendation that you're talking about a notebook that is waaaay too overpowered for an office work system; for the issues you're mentioning, a mid-range system will perform quite admirably. Upgrade the RAM and HDD, and you should have real problems stressing the system to the point of having it struggle to keep up with your usage .

 

If you buy wisely you wont need to upgrade your system in the next three years, But No notebook, or even desktop for that matter will be compatiable with the CPU's three years from now, which I imagine is the same problem your having with your HP notebook. I think you would be best off buying something cheap and mid range in terms of power, spend half as much, and then in three years time buy something new with the other half of the money.

Your not doing anything that needs a great deal of power, and a 1.8ghz C2D would be plenty for your needs.

 

I just decided to wait a few more months before buying a new computer. I found an AMD 4200x2 on the same 939 socket as the old AMD 3200 @ newegg; some reviewers said it's close to e4400 in performance. Would it work? And I would add a new hdd, Hitachi 7k100 100 GB 6ATA. That should do the job for a while. I post this message @ the upgrades section on this forum, no answer yet...
Thanks to you, guys ! Very friendly& helpful !

 

Things have gotten too confusing with your posts -- what are you trying to put an AMD 4200 into? You definitely have to match the cpu socket series, but if you're working in a HP laptop you're probably in the wrong place to find out if it's compatible in a Pavilion or not.

Nonetheless, trying to move from single to dual-core, even if the sockets match and both are mobile AMD chips, will very likely require a BIOS upgrade to be functional, and you'd need to look through the HP support pages to find out if it exists for your Pavilion model... no BIOS support for dual-core, the cpu won't work even if it is socket-compatible. CPU upgrades in notebooks are not for the faint of heart, and can often be subject to more details than in the desktop realm.

 

Wouldn't it be easier to just get a notebook with a glossy screen, then replace the screen with a matte one yourself? http://www.smartmicrousa.com/ should be able to get you a matte 1680x1050.

 

Hi, I upgraded the BIOS to my HP Pavilion, latest is from 09/2006, so the dual core AMD should work. Is there anything else I can do before buying it?
Thanks again, you're wonderful guys !

 

And as for a 1920/1050 matte screen, http://www.smartmicrousa.com/ would ask for a price similar as for a new consumer laptop !

 

Youve ignored everything everyone has said to you, Im not bothering with this thread anymore.

 

LMAO.

If you can find a new consumer laptop for the price of the screen you're looking for (~$275) then you know something that nobody on here does.

 

I agree with matt. I couldn't have been clearer than I was (I hope) in showing to the OP that her/his quest for an upgradeable notebook is futile and also unnecessary given her/his needs.

cjn.simona:

I will say one final thing. If the manufacturer doesn't explicitly support the new CPU, even if you upgraded the BIOS and the socket is compatible, the BIOS won't have the microcode for the new CPU and IT WON'T WORK: the computer won't post.

Furthermore there might be thermal dissipation limitations that the cooling system has which prevent the new CPU from being used successfully. In plain terms: you might melt your computer.

Please, be sure about what you do before you start switching CPUs. Because from your posts, you do not seem very secure about these things.