Asus z70va still exhibit red ghosting issues?

I've been reading on that screen issue thread but haven't seen or heard of any updates/fixes to it. I did read that someone said it was solved but I haven't found anyone else report it being fixed, so I'm not sure if that's true.

I plan on getting one to replace my old laptop (gotta have the x700) but the screen issue is something that's holding me back - as I really need BT built-in.

Also do any of you know if the DVD-burner optical drive is region free? Or if there are any firmwares out there to make it region free? I read on the other thread and it seems there isn't a firmware for the drive.

 

I'm sure if you buy from a reputable dealer, they wont send you a "bad" one. As for the DVDRW drive, I'm pretty sure you cant put whatever you want inside it. I've got some DVD's from Thailand and they seem to work. My friend got me 1 movie from the Philippines also. Don't know if that helps.

 

There are various programs that allow you to play discs of any region. Usually the DVD program that is on your computer will adjust the region and allow you to play the DVD, such as the included DVD viewing program on ASUS notebooks called ASUS DVD AKA PowerDVD. If this is still a problem playing DVD's with other region codes then you would have to invest in a region changer program. The one that I know of that does this is called DVD Region that includes CSS free. If you go to sites like www.majorgeeks.com, they supply freeware version and shareware versions that you might have to pay a little fee for.

 

yea PowerDVD and MediaPlayer Classic lets me change regions on my current laptop but they only give me 4 changes before it becomes permanent.... sooo.... I did a good firmware 'upgrade' on the drive and its now region free.

madmike: if you can play dvds from thailand and phillipines.. I think that's a good sign =D Thanks!

 

I noticed the red after when going from black screen to something lite esp white. Its very noticable i thought it was just the screen itself since it hasa 25ms response. Should this not be happening? I bought the laptop from ISTNC.

 

Contact your reseller... better safe than sorry.

 

Raidflex: how did you know your screen has 25ms response ?

 

I also have a slight red ghosting issue on my z70va. However, it is completely unnoticeable unless I'm on a black background, or when the screen is black. That's all I have to say...

 

they are still out there and shipping with ghosting. Its a hit or miss some have some dont. Originally i stated that we will ship some with very mild ghosting but after last friday we pulled all the screens with any sign of ghosting. Today we shipped the last good screen we had. Asus is shipping about 2 dozen screens back to us next week so i ll hope and pray they are all good. This work is exausting checking every single screen then removing the screens then putting them back again then checking them again then removing the test components then assembling them again.

 

Hey Eddie,

i'm not too sure about the inner workings towards creating/building up a barebones laptop, but isn't it possible to just lay the screen flat on a table, connected to the laptop, and look for any ghosting from there on? Or does everything have to be put in place first?

I've been building computers for quite some time and I pretty much leave things hanging (literally) until everything's good to go. Not the same for laptops eh?

 

I am seeing the ghosting screen too at my z70va. I have contacted the vendor, and they havn't replied me for two days.

Hope you will have an acceptable solution for us, who have the screen issue.

 

That would be like trying to find the weight of a see through doughnut hole. Ghosting looks just like the video posted somewhere above. Without turning on windows or any other program that can create white on black objects you cant see ghosting.

Either your vendor does not know you contacted them or they dont want to help you. In that case you should try harder. I thought contacting your vendor and getting it fixed was a pretty acceptable solution for mostly everyone.

 

haha my bad. I meant connecting everything together without putting all the screws and cases on and then turning up the system to check. Sorta like building up a computer half-done w/o putting on the case and other misc. Unless of course, laptops can't be done this way.

 

It seems to do it all around the edges mostly and i do notice it a little bit on the intel splash screen

 

Ye its typical. It definetly ghosting no doubts. Some are really really bad though and some are perfect. Horrible problem and very time consuming to screen for.

 

Hello all I recently purchased a Z70Va and it's terrific.

Just to reassure everyone about the red ghosting issue, I just purchased my unit from PacificNotebooks, North York location from Adrian Ray.

This unit does not exhibit any red ghosting, and they built my system from a new batch. My unit is non-BT.

Only issue I have with my unit is some light leakage at the bottom of the screen.

Also is it normal for the edges of the screen to not be fully attached? The bottom of the screen to the right side and the right side of the screen seem to be not completely attached to the LCD panel.

What I mean by this is...umm...you know, like all those acer screens. LOL so hard to describe such a simple thing. It's kinda like something that isn't taped down properly, if that description serves me well.

Anyways I'm new to this forum, but have been reading your posts for about a year now =D

see you later ~!

 

OO... another Asus owner. *drool* I'm envious.. but will be owning one soon. =D
Welcome to Club NBR =D heh!

Anyway you might want to re-check some of the pictures of the z70va since there seems to be quite a few here. I'm sure G2P and ProPortable can help you out real well though.... but yea there are quite a few z70va owners too and they'll probably help you out better.

Congrats on your new laptop =)

 

My friend recently bought a z70va with bluetooth, he said that the red ghosting problem appear under a black environment, he also run a Photoshop, the red ghost also there. He contacted Asus, Asus are focuing on this issue and figure it out for a solution rightnow, how long to wait?? no clue!!!
i believe the LCD cannot be fixed, only replace it, or something make it happen......

 

I received my Z70Va on Monday and it has no red ghosting issues. It's a non-BlueTooth model branded by ChemBook.

 

It cannot be fixed it can only be replaced. Will asus replace them? It all depends on what samsung tells em.

 

I guess the bad batch is still floating around out there... I hope this issue gets dealt with quickly.
Come on :asus:

 

thanks for the warm welcome to NBR...=D
I've been losing sleep over this laptop...it's so great being free from my **** ball and chain desktop...

There is absolutely no Red Ghosting on a black screen on my unit which I purchased last week on wednesday? Yes, my unit is a non-BT, but I still don't see how that is an issue.

I do however have noticed that the screen does ghost a bit when playing NFSU2 (Need For Speed Underground 2)...I guess this is normal for LCD's? I have only used my LG crt for gaming so I don't have much experience on LCD's.

I'm guessing this is totally normal. Other than the slight ghosting issue I'm so **** happy with my purchase.

I was waiting on a W1N from Pacific Notebooks, but they said they only got a hold of an open box that was still awaiting inspection - even after 2 weeks~!

Finally I just said screw it and ordered the Z70Va 2.00ghz Pentium M 760, 1GBx1 Apacer PC4300 ddr2 (12,4,4,4), CD-RW/DVD-combo drive, Intel PRO/Wireless 2200B/G, ummmm...oh yeah 80GB Western Digital Scorpio 2mb WD800UE...yeah I know I wanted the 8mb cache one but I guess they screwed up or it doesn't come in 8mb cache for a pata drive? Anyways whatever, I still love my machine, she runs great~!

Either I got an older unit or a really new one that didn't have any Red Ghosting issues...PHEW~
Cheers,
Mike

 

Oh yeah I forgot to ask if it is alright with the moderators in here...since I'm already in this thread, I just wanted to ask a quick off topic question ...

This is my first laptop so I'm not too sure about how laptops go about things.

The question is, is it alright for the harddrive and optical drive to be on the same ide channel? If there are 2 ide channels would it not be ideal to have the harddrive and the optical drive on separate channels? That's how I would do it on a desktop, which is exactly how I have it on MY desktop gaming system.

Thanks and don't ban me for asking this question in the wrong area please~!~!~! T_T
I'm new remember =D

 

Don't worry... no banning will take place

It IS alright for those two to be on the same IDE channel...although I don't know why it would be. Perhaps it has something to do with the newer Intel chipset...because I know on my M6Ne (older Centrino platform), my hard drive and optical drive are on different channels.

 

Wow FAST REPLY~!~!~! =D

Yeah, I know they're fine on one channel, but still kinda strange eh?

I think when the guys over at Pacific Notebooks put my baby together they just put both on the same channel.

Supposedly the guys over there all worked for IBM, but started their own computer store after leaving IBM.

Adrian Ray over at Pacific Notebooks North York location is great~!

Yeah I guess I'm fine with 'em on one channel...oh well =/

Cheers,
Mike

 

Hello and I was hoping not to post in this thread again, but guess what!?!?!?

The Red Ghost has come to bite me in the ass...I am 100% positive that I did not have the Red Ghosting issue before, but after I installed HalfLife2 and ran some tests, after exiting CS:source I noticed the dreaded Red Ghost in the bottom corners of the screen.

I confirmed this by putting my background as black and opening up context menus and closing them rapidly and such. This ghosting only occurs on the bottom right/left corners of the screen and the bottom of the screen and goes up to about the height of the taskbar, which isn't much. Also on the left side of the screen all the way up there is some ghosting, but it's worse near the bottom...

I guess I should've knocked on wood or something...
Strange thing is this thing developed...I didn't have this before I know for a fact. Maybe these screens on the Z70Va's don't like being on one wallpaper for too long or something? I"m thinking of possible solutions and only one comes to mind. Since my problem developed over a short period of time (I'm sure of it, didn't have it before), why not try that Stuck Pixel Unsticking tool on the forums somewhere??? Since this ghosting is with the colour red on dark or black surfaces, maybe running that program that blasts all the different RGB colours will fix it?

I'm gonna give it a go and I'll get back to you guys. I'm not too, too, TOO concerned about the ghosting since it is only a small portion of the screen in areas not too important, but since this problem developed, I am worried that it might spread to the rest of the screen.

wish me luck,
Cheers,
Mike

 

Just wondering if the ghosting effect has anything to do with power saving. Maybe the refresh rate is slower when the machine is underclock? Just a thought.

Wish you luck Head & Shoulder ^_^
-Carl

 

Good luck Shampoo...
Is it really that noticable? Or did you purposely TRY to cause the ghosting?

Btw... nice signature...LOL

 

HAHAHA, thanks AuroraS...I uhhh...like my sig'.

It's noticeable when you come from a black screen like a game or something or when I minimize windows, since my background wallpaper at the moment has a lot of black on it.

It's not that bad since it's only in remote areas of the screen and it's really minimal, but it's there. It just happened I didn't try to cause the ghosting, I just noticed it after running some Halflife Source benchmarks, then I exited the game and Whooooosh...the Red Ghost pounced on me. I was so ticked off since I thought my unit was PERFECT, which it is in every other respect.

Oh well it's not that big a deal, since it works fine and the display is beautiful, other than the little ghosting effect.

I can live with it :/

 

nevermind it's not that noticeable minimizing windows, but it is after gaming and coming out of the game, but oh wel, not a deal breaker.

Cheers,
Mike and oh yeah....SCREW YOU RED GHOST~!!!! I FEAR YOU NOT~!!!!!!!!

 

dude, sadly, i think mine developed it too. It's very minimal and on the left bottom side and then goes up but tapers away. What's strange is I THINK it was a developement that happened a few days after I got the machine (and after installing catalyst 5.10). BUt unless this driver changes the BIOS, it is now there even upon posting (before any drivers or anything have run). The strange thing though is that it seems to be going away now! It was the worst a couple days ago, and now it seems to be disapearing. I wonder if the 2 hours of playing UT last night had something to do with it, haha.

Anyway, it's not bad at all, and this screen outstanding except for the occational scenario when colors go from white to black in those regions. And i do mean white to black. If it goes from light grey to a very dark color (or very dark grey) you can't see it. it's almost like the red pixels behave properly when going to different intensities, but when they're "told" to shut off, they take like 1-2 seconds to do that. But Shampoo, i know what you mean about how it's not perfect and how THAT is seriously irratating (more irritating than the actual problem, if that makes sense, haha).

So anyway, i'm also due for a review where i will discuss this a bit more, but **** school work has me so busy! Hopefully I can do it after my midterm tommorow.

 

I find this very disturbing that some of you feel this is something you can live with. I for one, will not plunk down $1700-$2200 so I can "live with it"! No way!! Let me ask you something. How long did it take you to come up nearly $2000? That Kind of money does not grow on trees around here. Im working my Arse off, just so I can get this Model, but if it Exhibits this "Red Ghosting issue", Im sending it back.

Hopefully, Asus will correct the Matter in a timely fashion and we can all enjoy this Beautiful notebook.

How many Venders Know about this????

 

Just about all reputable resellers know about this issue... and Asus IS working on a solution at the moment.
The REALLY scary thing is that, as flaxx and Shampoo have mentioned, it might develop later on AFTER you get it.

I'm sure Asus will resolve this matter soon... it's more of a Samsung issue, to be honest.

 

RKG72MP, i couldn't agree with you more. And believe me, none of us are happy about this issue. I think I'm going to call Asus on wednesday about this just to add another complaint to the list. I will also contact my reseller and he can contact his distrubuter and the regional asus rep just so i can ensure a replacement when a solution comes about. It is true that this is a problem with Samsung, but it's asus responsibility to deliver the product. The reason I am not as adamant about getting a replacement is this is already my second one and the screen is phenomenally better than the previous, and based on how bad it can really get, I have a "good" screen. I don't want to risk getting something worse. So I'm okay with it now, and I'm going to ride it out until a solution arrises, but this is certainly not permanant.

I'm sure Asus knows about this, and they BETTER be working on the solution. Look at what is happening to Apple for their ipod nano's and their 'easily scratchable screens". If lawsuits are taking place based on that, imagine what could happen with these INITIALLY and internally defective screens.

 

Sorry for Venting eariler...It's just this.... is such a Nice Model and this Issue arises. Around these parts (California), I can Get a laptop @ the nearest Store (Best Buy) and pay anywhere from $700 to $1200. Still, not pocket change, But these units aren't nearly as nice & featured as the Z70Va. Im someone who looks for Quality first, performance second. This Noisey fan issue, everyone talks about, would not bother me. Heck, the noise lets me know the Unit is cooling itself. But this "Red Ghosting" is something that will bother me. The display is one of the Most important features on a notebook. You are looking at it all the time.
One last word, I don't believe notebooks should suffer from the "dead Pixel" issue. No notebook should arrive with dead pixels. If one or two fails within a week of use, then, ya, this is normal. But being "brand new", absolutely not exceptable. Where is the Quality Control on these things? These aren't cheap nor are they toys. This is an Investment some people take very seriously.

 

flaxx...yeah it tapers away as you move up on the screen and it's more pronounced on the left side of my screen than the right.

It's not as noticeable as I initially thought it was, so I'm not too concerned about it.

RKG72MP...I know what you mean. How could I be "OKAY" with something that is a defect when I paid good hard earned "CASH" for my expensive notebook investment?!?!? Thing is, really, I'm a person who really pays attention to detail and it's not bad...really~! Things that disturb me and get under my skin more is the fact that some parts of the laptop don't come together perfectly, like the chassis. Some parts of the screen and base where edges meet aren't totally, perfectly flush together, but I guess that's almost impossible because of the manufacturing process that "PLASTIC" goes through. (yes, I know it's a carbon fibre chassis, but still plastic)

You can't cry about things forever, just enjoy the product for what it is~! Oh yeah the creaking of the case on the hand rest is annoying as well

Cheers,
Mike

 

Oops, I forgot to add that I ran that Stuck Pixel program for a couple hours and it did nothing to alleviate the Red Ghosting issue.... DANG IT~!!!!!

 

Shampoo:::I 100% agree with you. I guess we can't expect everything to be {perfect} just as close as they can come, will do. Asus, IMHO, has come so close with the Z70Va that I can't wait to rub a few more Nickels together to get it.

 

Oh hellzzzzz yeah, go for it RKG72MP~! You look the Red Ghost in the face, if he appears, and tell him, "Hey yo~! Red Ghost~! I don't like you~! So go away~!"

Hahaha, yeah go for it, it's a helluva machine. I'm still considering getting an extra gig of ram for my baby and I'm thinking about switching out the Intel Pro Wireless 2200B/G and getting an Atheros wireless adapter, b/c this intel adapter keeps crapping out on me when the signal strength isn't too great, or something, I dunno...

I guess I should start a new thread instead of jacking this one to ask questions about the Atheros A/B/G XR adapter...(hehe I thnk I already jacked it )

Sorry~!

Mike

 

Ok, i'm a little confuse cauz i'm about to buy a Z70va. Just to clear things up
1) Does the red ghost appear on both bluetooth and none bluetooth z70va?
2) Is this Asus' Halloween joke? (sike)
3) Any vendor has a z70V left?
Last but not least. Does z63a play WOW?
:asus:

 

1) yes
2) no
3) they're being phased out... why would u want a z70v anyway? the z70va last just as long and is significantly faster... it's just a bit more expensive, but worth the upgrade
4) play WOW? SRS WOW?

 

LOL flaxx,for such a knowledgable person you are kinda "durrrr" sometimes hehehehe
WOW = World of Warcraft and YES aphirat it can handle it....oh wait z63a has the Intel Extreme graphics right? I have no idea....probably wouldn't run well? just guessing.

aphirat...if you read the whole thread or other threads you will notice that my unit is a non-bluetooth unit and it displays(rather developed) a slight Red Ghosting effect on the edges of the screen. Most notably the bottom left corner, where the start menu pops up. It is really minor and you won't notice it unless you're looking hard, plus it only happens on BLACK screens, or really dark ones.

I'm going to talk to my reseller, Adrian over at Pacific Notebooks to see what he can do for me, but it's not a big deal. The bigger deal is this creaking I get on my palm rest near the middle-right and right side...now that's annoying...I know this is a defect in the case since the left side is SOLID, I mean SOLID.

Cheers,
Mike

 

Why do i want a z70v? Because it's not possessed by an evil soul hidden inside the fine looking screen ^_^. We assembled one the other day and it didn't show any of the red devil problem. However, i can't find any retailer who would sell me another barebone of it cauz the lastone we got was their last unit. Anyways, i guess i'll just order a z70va and have more fun assembling them.

Thank u for ur replies.

 

Some ppl adjust the brightness and contrast, it would help some......
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=111372&page=6

 

they're the exact same screen.. same production line, same company. so if you get a z70v that was assembled at the same time these effected z70va was, you're going to have the exact same problem.

 

Same notebook same screens but differing level of ghosting. For those mildly affected increasing brightness and lowering contrast seems to work very well. I would say problem solved but there are still panels with severe ghosting. Ghosting by the way as it appears is a wrong term for this.

 

That's why i call it red devil, not ghosting

 

No matter what you call it... it's apparent to those who have it but I think it's starting to freak out those who don't who will eventually see it anyway because people keep talking about it.........

.... It's always something.. isn't it?

 

I totally agree Justin...some people are gonna start to see things, like normal ghosting of the screen since it's an lcd, and people are gonna scream out RED GHOST~!!! even though it's really normal for lcd's to ghost slightly, as you can tell by the mouse cursor having a trail even though you didn't set it

People need to chill out and get one of these and see for themselves how much they'll love it....I was kinda regretting not getting a glossy type screened laptop, but now that I have my Celia, I soooooooooo do not regret it. I'm gonna put it side by side with a friend's Toshiba M50 and another friend's W5 to see how they compare.

Those 2 have nice screens.

Cheers,
Mike

 

so is there any new updates from asus about this issue?