Asus, AMD and 17"... a dream?

Hello, I would like to buy an ASUS as my next purchase but I am an AMD fan. Does anyone know if ASUS plans on building a machine with 17" screen and AMD?

I am in Montreal Canada, where can I take a look at the new W2V?

Thanks

 

No... not a dream... just some time to wait... You're not going to get anything that is like the W2v, but there will be something more along the lines of the z83v..... just hold tight.

 

They already are. It's 10% cheaper here than a similarily specced Intel counterpart. The question is rather if/when Asus US is planning on bringing one to the North American market.

It's an ensemble model in Europe, so I guess you could import one (2 year international warranty and all), but that might be more trouble than it's worth.

 

From Justin's post, it seems like it's going to be a "Built on Asus" model if something like this comes to North America.

 

I don't care if it's available in the US market or not... I'll be in Europe in few weeks and even if I was not I can still place an order on ebay

I am glad to see that this model is already selling in the rest of the world. Do you know if it comes with the glossy screen? What is the video card?

 

http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=5&l2=74&l3=0&model=801&modelmenu=1

 

I think is a great laptop... and comes with a true mobile CPU!!!

I can't wait to take it for a ride!!!

 

It's pretty cheap as well. The model without the tuner (PAL or DVI-T wouldn't be much good in NA) is available for less than $1300 excl. local VAT for 17", WXGA+ Color Shine, Mobile AMD Turion MT34, 1x512MB DDR, ATI Mobility Radeon X700 128MB, 80GB 5400rpm, 8x DVD-/+RW Dual Layer, WLAN 54Mbit, 1.3 MP Cam, Bluetooth, XP Home. (Exact specs may vary some by country.)

Not in the UK yet, though, which probably would have been your best as far as (getting a reasonable) keyboard layout and OS language go.

 

Just wondering why would you want the Turion over the Pentium M as the Pentium M is really the best for notebooks at the moment?

 

The Turion MT model is quite comparible to the Pentium-M... plus it is 64-bit capable.

 

Well, Turion is the best laptop CPU! Cool and quite, integrated memory channel, thermal resistance up to 100 degree celsius, 25W true dissipation on load, not hidle as intel pentium-m, and the fact that anyone can conferm how really cold the AMD64 is under operation. My syster in law has a presario r3000 with a desktop AMD64, not tru mobile... during summertime, with 35degree celsius outside, she was able to make ice-cream with her laptop!!! I have never seen anything like this before!!! And when I put Linux on it, I was ready to go to the north pole to fix the ice cap!!!

Apart from the jokes intel days are over. I am not saying that I don't like intel, I still have some intel machines, but things change and intel has as well. So, no more intel machines until I see something really good!

 

Do you know if ASUS plans on building a laptop with your specs but with AMD processor instead?

 

With MY specs?
I hear the W3Z is coming out... 14" widescreen with Turion CPU... integrated graphics, though.

 

Well, since the turion has just one channel I'd prefer the dedicated video, but I have to try few models first to have an opinion. I haven't had the chance to try a 14" wide screen yet. Actually yes... the v2000z... nice screen.

PS. I can't wait for AMD to release a turion dual channel!

 

Hey Tomy, there is a nice article on xbitlabs that shows the wall that intel is facing with pentium's architecture.

 

I can support the assertion that the latest AMD 64 desktop chips run cool. I've got a 64 3200+ which I reckon pulls 37W at full load and normal voltage. However, I have undervolted it so that it is running at 1.15V at full load (~25W). The complete desktop computer (ATI integrated graphics) draws only about 70W at the mains socket. Unfortunately, the M/B won't let me drop the minimum voltage which is fixed at 1.1V. In comparison, I reckon that the undervolted Pentium M 750 in my W3A is only taking about 15W at full power, so Intel still currently has its nose ahead in the low power race. It is also pertinent to note that the OSMARK benechmarking suite ( http://www.flickerdown.com/osmark/viewtopic.php?t=122) puts the desktop only slightly ahead of the notebook. Both have integrated graphics (ATI in desktop and Intel in W3A).

John

 

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 I reckon that the undervolted Pentium M 750 in my W3A is only taking about 15W at full power

Think there is a typo in your comment... The M750 is not undervolted, it's just a regular pentium-m. Click http://developer.intel.com/products/processor/pentiumm/index.htm for more detail on intel mobile CPU.

Amd will release a low voltage Turion (10W effective) in 2007, however the undervolted intel are not aimed to go against turion, but against crusoe, becasue that is the market where they belong... ultra low voltage.

From AMD side, there is no hurry in the release of an ultra low voltage turion because... there is no market yet.

If You are using an ASUS W3A with the M750, this are the specs:45W/1.86ghz/533mhz/2MB

 

It is undervolted, because I set it so. There's a much discussion about undervolting in this forum and elsewhere. I use RMclock on both my W3A and on the desktop computer. The P-M 750 in my W3A runs at full speed on 1.084 volts which reduces both power consumption and heat generated. For anyone who hasn't yet tried undervolting, take the plunge. There is zero adverse effect on performance.

John

 

Is it possible to use RMclock on turion?

 

YES it is! 1.1V and 1.6ghz stable on a ML-30. Here http://forum.rightmark.org/topic.cgi?id=6:347 for more info.

I didn't know about RMclock but today is very hard to beleive that intel is making such good CPUs.

I beleive there is a comment that states that such low voltage has a very low wattage consumption (10W).

 

1. In order to determine your minimum safe operating voltage, it is recommended that you use Prime 95 to load the CPU to 100% and run it for several hours at each voltage step, working downwards. When the CPU starts to malfunction, Prime 95 should report errors before it affects the computer's operation.

2. Ohm's law: Watts = voltage squared / resistance so, for example, a 20% reduction in voltage gives a 36% reduction in power.

3. I think all the current AMD CPUs support undervolting to some extent. Even the desktop CPUs have "cool'n quiet" which is effectively a simplified speed and voltage stepping.

John

 

I agree, Amd are better CPUs.

 

Is there any other news on this? I had been planning to buy a notebook this month but would wait for this if it comes to the us.

 

No, I don't think we'll see this model in north america. Amd is not very appreciate here. I think best You can do is to take a look at ebay UK and ebay Germany. However, european company ship to north america without problems.