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    Atheros 9285

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by electric_buck, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. electric_buck

    electric_buck Notebook Consultant

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    I have a WRT54GS router (it's wireless g) and every time I click on the connection my g73 immediately says it failed. I'm wondering if the atheros 9285 is not compatible with g series routers or if there's some way to change the atheros connection settings...any thoughts?
     
  2. Kalim

    Kalim Ceiling Cat Is Watching U

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    I have the same router and have no problems connecting wirelessly with the stock drivers. Do you have the latest firmware for the router? Are you using encryption and if so have you correctly entered the key? Need more information.
     
  3. electric_buck

    electric_buck Notebook Consultant

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    Ya I've upgraded the firmware and everything. I don't have any security on the router right now if that's what you mean by encryption...
     
  4. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    It's an Azurewave, whatever that is.
     
  5. electric_buck

    electric_buck Notebook Consultant

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    Not sure what you mean flame
     
  6. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    The card is an Azurewave AR5B95. I understand that is an Atheros chip.

    Is this a 5GHz router?
     
  7. electric_buck

    electric_buck Notebook Consultant

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    oooooh I see what you're saying lol-was just being absent minded. No I think it's 2.4GHz.
     
  8. David

    David NBR Random Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    The WRT54GS is a 2.4GHz router. electric_buck, have you tried reinstalling your wifi driver? Also, in your control panel, does it say your wifi card is working properly?
     
  9. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not the one with the problem, I swapped it out for an intel 6200 so I'm not going to be a whole lot of help.

    I just remember someone being upset because they couldn't connect to their 5GHz router.
     
  10. David

    David NBR Random Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    My mistake. I meant to direct the question to the OP (electric_buck) :p
     
  11. veearesix

    veearesix Notebook Consultant

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    Literally reset and reconfigure everything in your your router. I had this problem with my out of the box G51JX.. I even sent it to Asus. I did all everything I could imagine first, then when Asus sent it back after doing nothing to it because it worked fine for them, it was doing the same thing. I took it to school and it worked fine. I then reset everything again on the router and its been working fine since. My router is a linksys(cisco) wrt310n
     
  12. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    The Atheros card in the G73 sucks. I have 2 N Dual Band Simultaneous 5.0Ghz/2.4Ghz routers, WRT610N & a WNDR3300(I'm selling to a friend today).

    For unrelated network purposes the Atheros performs decent. But every G73(3) that I've owned can only connect up to 150mbs. It also has a hard time streaming at full HD to PS3(Java Media Server)/Xbox 360.

    My previous G71 would connect up to 300mbs. It also would have NO problems or errors streaming HD video to my consoles.
    I tried without a firewall, same results on all 3 systems.
     
  13. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    The speed for the connection would be under the adapter properties -> Configure and it would be channel width, 40MHz or auto, for 2.4GHz.

    No idea what that card is though.
     
  14. veearesix

    veearesix Notebook Consultant

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    Same card G51 cant find channel width under adapter properties.. also same 150mb limit.
    Curios in your sig you say we can now overclock the 720qm? How?

    is this the throttle stop bit?
     
  15. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    I already set both routers to that config....no luck. The most the G73JH can do with the Atheros 9285 is up to 150mbs with N.

    http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR9285.htm

    Technology Overview

    The AR9285 single-chip PCI Express� solution features Atheros Align technology which leverages the 802.11n 1–stream specification to provide the optimal upgrade path from legacy 802.11 solutions. The single-stream feature enables a new class of Wi-Fi devices that deliver performance enhancements over the existing 802.11g technology, at comparable price points. Align™ solutions are forward compatible to higher-performance, multi-stream, MIMO–based 802.11n, and are available in reference designs to serve the networking, PC and consumer electronics markets. The enhanced throughput of Align 1–stream solutions improves network efficiency by occupying the wireless channel for shorter periods than slower 11g devices – reducing congestion and increasing capacity for additional wireless devices. Align employs all the mandatory and select optional features of the 11n specification, and Atheros’ advanced radio design techniques, to effectively double the wireless coverage over legacy WLAN.

    Product Overview

    The Atheros AR9285, our 4th generation, highly integrated solution targeting the value PC market. The AR9285 integrates a complete WLAN solution–media access controller (MAC), baseband, and a high–performance 2.4 GHz radio in a low–cost digital CMOS design.

    The Atheros AR9285 single-chip PCI Express (PCIe) solution is a highly integrated MAC/Baseband/Radio solution that is backward compatible to 802.11g and forward compatible to 11n. It enables PC OEMs to cost-effectively migrate their 11g-based notebooks to the enhanced, future-proofed performance of Align. Targeting the growing value PC market segment with 150 Mbps PHY rate capability, Align is the ideal technology for PC users seeking robust throughput, enhanced range and extended battery life for data networking applications such as Web surfing, instant messaging and e-mail.


    Single-Chip 802.11n-Compatible PCI Express CMOS MAC/Baseband/Radio

    •Highly compact, small footprint package
    •Fourth generation solution with integrated power amplifier
    and low noise amplifier for best total solution cost
    •PCI Express Based Specification 1.1 compliant
    •Low power sleep modes supported
    Solution Highlights

    •Supports up to 150 Mbps
    •Highly integrated single chip PCI Express CMOS solution with
    MAC/baseband processor and 2.4 GHz radio
    •Backward-compatible to 802.11g; forward–compatible to 802.11n
    •Supports all mandatory IEEE 802.11n draft 7.0 features:
    – including several IEEE 802.11n draft 7.0 optional features
    such as HT40, half-guard internal in HT40 and
    Rx Space Time Block Coding
    •Compliant with IEEE 802.11b, 802.11d, 802.11e, 802.11g standards
    and 802.11i draft specification
    AR9285 Specifications

    Frequency Band 2.4 GHz

    Network Standard 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, draft 7.0 802.11n


    Modulation Technology OFDM with BPSK, QPSK, 16 QAM, 64 QAM; DBPSK, DQPSK, CCK


    FEC Coding Rate 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, 5/6

    Hardware Encryption AES, TKIP, WEP


    Quality of Service 802.11e,

    Communication Interface PCI Express

    Peripheral Interface GPIOs, LEDs

    Memory Interfaces EEPROM, DDR, FLASH

    Supported Data Rates
    IEEE 802.11b 1 to 11 Mbps
    IEEE 802.11g 6 to 54 Mbps
    IEEE 1-stream 802.11n 6.5 to 150 Mbps

    Package Dimensions 8 mm x 8 mm

    Package 68-pin LPCC

    That's why it sucks. My router supports up to 300mbs through N.
     
  16. Kalim

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    Back to the topic. Are you using DHCP exclusively or do you use some static assignments?

    I use static in the LAN and WLAN, and DHCP for the WAN.
     
  17. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    Do you get 300mps through N?
     
  18. <MarkS>

    <MarkS> Notebook Village Idiot

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    Not with the Atheros 9285. It's specifically spec'd at 150 max.

    Interesting that from where I'm sitting in relation to my access point, the Atheros generally gets a faster connection than my Intel 6200. But 150 is max with the Atheros, while I can get up to 300 with the Intel.
     
  19. 780Cinco

    780Cinco Notebook Evangelist

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    As the G73 comes with an N wifi card (but is obviously backwards compatible)I have a Linksys WRT160N router. With stock drivers and Atheros, and with normal tier BS cox internet, I get 65-73Mb/s. This is optimal right?
     
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    150Mbps would be optimal. You should be able to get that with the G73 next to the router.

    Realistically your connection speed can vary widely depending on proximity to the router.
     
  22. Kalim

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    No, because both the original poster and I have a WRT54GS router which includes B and G only. Discussing N just derails the thread and doesn't help the original poster.
     
  23. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    No. 150mbs is optimal for a N-Dratf router with the Atheros 9285.
    No matter where I have my PC I always get 150mbs. But my last PC(G71GX) got 300mbs :(

    I think it's time to upgrade if you stream HD video. I have an old Linksys WRT54GS from a couple of years ago right after the new design that I've been trying to pawn off on someone(for a fee). But everyone I know wants or has a N router.

    Where were you when I needed you? I would have sold you mine for 20.00USD!!
     
  24. Kalim

    Kalim Ceiling Cat Is Watching U

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    When I want to watch HD content I use a HDMI cable, which is much better than streaming.

    Actually, I bought the WRT54GS new when it was first release. I had all sorts of discounts and it ended up costing me about $50. The model I have is the better v1.0 model. Better because it has more RAM and flash memory.

    Now you know someone that doesn't want or has an N router. LOL ;)
     
  25. skygunner27

    skygunner27 A Genuine Child of Zion

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    :D
    Interesting...I bought the same router you did 2 years ago for 50.00USD without any discounts at Sears.

    I have a 1080P LED Sammy that I use HDMI all day long through it's 4 HDMI ports. Is HDMI good? Yes. I'm pretty sure this thread is about the Atheros 9285 Wireless WiFi Card not about wired connections. My con about the Atheros card in the G73 is that at 150mbs you can barely stream comparable HDMI HD quality video content. My G71GX's card could do this perfectly at 300mbs.

    What I'm saying to you is that if you have the N router that supports up to 300mbs, this card handicapps you. Nothing more. Nothing less.
     
  26. Kalim

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    I understand that and that's fine (although I'm not sure where wired cards came into the discussion).

    My point is, what good does it do to discuss N when the original poster clearly was asking about G and is having a connecting issue. This is akin to someone asking for help about troubleshooting a starting issue in their new Ford, and most of the advice is centered around how fast their Lamborghini's can go. Marvelous. :)

    I was only trying to help by focusing on the original poster's issue and am not trying to sell him something that he clearly doesn't need or has asked for. That is if he hasn't already fixed the issue or became discouraged having to wade through all the N mire, when none of it applies to his particular issue.

    I'll send you a PM and answer your other points.