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    BB G51 Display question

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by den4ps, Nov 24, 2009.

  1. den4ps

    den4ps Notebook Enthusiast

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    With the amount of G51 threads in here I would imagine this has been asked, but I couldn't find it through search.

    I have and love a BB G51 RX05. I know that it is possible to drop in the P9700 C2D at 2.8GHz, but I am wondering if anyone has done a higher-resolution screen replacement on this unit? I don't really want to do 1920x1080 because i think the panel is too small for that (in my opinion) but something along the lines of 1600x900 would be great in this computer. I am comfortable doing the replacement myself and would not mind pulling the display assembly apart if there is a panel that will fit properly. Any input would be appreciated, either sources for replacement or examples of this having been done before.

    Thanks!
     
  2. David

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  3. den4ps

    den4ps Notebook Enthusiast

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    excellent! that will definitely help... now to just find a display that will work...
     
  4. den4ps

    den4ps Notebook Enthusiast

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    i took apart my computer and found that the display in the BB G51 rx05 is the Chi Mei N156B6-L04 Revision C1. This is a 40-Pin LED-Backlit 1366x768 LCD.

    I have found quite a few 15.6" LED panels on the internet that run at 1600x900, but it looks like most of them have 30-pin connectors, which will not work. most sites like screencoutry.com, screentek, lcds4less.com, etc. have several 15.6" 1600x900 panels but they don't list the conenctor type so I'm not sure if they will work properly. if anyone has more info please chime in. I may call these places tomorrow and see if they can tell me about the connector type.

    also the display has to be 13.6w x 7.6h (15.6 diag) to fit the existing bracket properly.
     
  5. den4ps

    den4ps Notebook Enthusiast

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    i'm surprised that no one has done this yet. i have a few emails into various lcd sellers but have not heard anything yet. the main issue seems to be the 40-pin connector on the left side of the display.
     
  6. Papa Midnight

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    Just with this in mind, would this work?
    Not only just for the G51, but for a G50V.

    Chi Mei N156O6-L01

    Manufacturer
    LCDS4Less

    Somewhat of a discrepency as LCDS4Less says it is 1920x1080 while Chi Mei says 1600x900. I'd be satisfied over 1366x768 either way.

    Judging from this experimentation by den4ps, it is possible to do.
     
  7. den4ps

    den4ps Notebook Enthusiast

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    i saw that one but i was worried... all of the sellers (lcds4less, screentek, etc.) list it as full HD (1920x1080) but Chi Mei themselves (who you think would be right) list it as 1600x900. I'm not sure which is right. You would think the connector would be in the right place though since it is the same brand. I'd be interested to find out.
     
  8. ozdemirhan

    ozdemirhan Notebook Consultant

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    I have a similar question in mind,
    I emailed lcd4less, for the same monitor. I have a g50vt-x5, I don't like the screen anymore, it is not sufficient to do anything, need a better resolution.
    I don't know if one can return the item, if it just doesn't fit.
    I emailed them and asked for the price, anyone knows what the price is?
    thanks.
     
  9. tallan

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    The G50V A1 has a 1680 x 1050 screen, but I don't know about the connector. The hinges etc. look identical so you MIGHT be able to swap the whole screen, not just the panel - assuming voltages etc. are the same. So if you can find somebody who spilled a cup of coffee or something and fried the innards of their G50 you might be in business!
     
  10. thalanix

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    the only screen mod i've seen here,
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=440380 (which i just realized was the result of this thread D: )

    without soldering, i don't think it's possible as the 40pin is proprietary.

    the g50v-a1 had a 1680x1050 screen, with the connector on the right side (iirc after pulling the lights), not sure if it was 40 pin or not.
     
  11. Duct Tape Dude

    Duct Tape Dude Duct Tape Dude

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    I just replaced my G50vt-X1's screen with a 16:10 screen for a total of under $150, complete with a new bezel and everything. The brackets do NOT line up but some glue and gorilla tape fixed that lol. Not professional, but totally worth it.

    You need a 30pin connector and a CCFL-lit LCD.
     
  12. ozdemirhan

    ozdemirhan Notebook Consultant

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    DON'T get a Chei Mei. Terrible quality. Find something else compatible.

    All you need to do is match up the connector, backlight type, and size that you want. You need a 30-pin CCFL screen. There's a lot of crap going around about how you need to match up the EXACT MANUFACTURER or the world will end--it's all false. You'll find on eBay they sell screens for specific laptops and it all looks like the same type of screen (same price, etc). Well, that's because it is. You'll also notice a lot of places will give a specific model number and then say "compatible" because they'll substitute it with whatever is readily available.
    I ordered a generic WSXGA+ 30-pin 15.4" screen (by Samsung) and they sent me a compatible one (which turned out to be a slightly different model number but still by Samsung).

    I had to replace my bezel as well from the Asus e-store since I went from 15.6" to 15.4". A final word of caution: THE BRACKETS INSIDE THE LID DO NOT FIT A 15.4" SCREEN. I had to gorilla tape and superglue my new screen to the top bracket.

    I think I'll post something on this sometime soon.
     
  14. ozdemirhan

    ozdemirhan Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the reply and warning...
    Our laptops screen is already chei mei, I think...
    What is wrong with it?
    does 15.4 fit stably by your method? If so, I don't think it matters.
    Can you recommend me,15.6 wsxga+ somewhere?
    thank you, any reply will be appreciated.
     
  15. Duct Tape Dude

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    I suppose it's more of a personal thing but you'll find most other laptop panels have better color/viewing angles than the original Chei Mei.

    I didn't run across any good screens that were 15.6" and better resolution, hence my switch to 15.4"
     
  16. ozdemirhan

    ozdemirhan Notebook Consultant

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    dtd00d,
    how bad is it with the tape and glue? is it steady and everything?
    can we get the 15.4 bezel somewhere?
    thanks in advance ,
    i am seriously thinking of chei mei 15.4, that is the only one i can find...!
    can u send us some links? will this fit out to the connector?
     
  17. Duct Tape Dude

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    lol
    It's definitely unprofessional on the inside of the lid, but on the outside all I can notice is that I centered the screen less than a millimeter too far to the right. Nothing major at all, and completely bearable. I didn't cover any pixels.

    You can get a 15.4" bezel here: http://estore.asus.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=4922&catid=606

    However, you'll find the most problematic part is the actual bracket assembly inside the lid--idk where to get that. It just doesn't fit a 15.4" screen. It's not a matter of it being just too large, the screw holes are also physically in different places. I wasn't about to drill anything and I didn't have any wood around to make slightly more professional-looking shims like one other person did (I think ||merc||).

    If you'd like some compatible screens, you can look almost anywhere for a 30-pin, CCFL 15.4" screen.
    You can pay $310 for the same exact screen I got here at screentek: http://www.screentekinc.com/Samsung-LTN154P1-L03.shtml

    Here's another revision of the screen on eBay, but in glossy:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350286188783&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    Here are other screens you can get that fit (note how generic they are): http://www.screencountry.com/index.php?section=products&model=G50VT&brand=ASUS&size=

    Here's the one that I ordered, note the price (I ended up getting an LTN154P3-L03 screen, the same exact thing but an earlier revision I guess. It's beautiful.)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370242639680&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

    If you don't like Samsung, you can try an LG:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/LG-PHILIPS-LP15...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a51cd7665

    You'll find with ALL of the above, if they're out of exactly what you want, they'll send you a "100% compatible" screen. In my case, I got the same model number but a different revision. Any one of the above would work. Again, just match the connectors and backlight type and you're set.

    Hope this helps!
     
  18. ozdemirhan

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    WOW, You hope that this helps? You are officially my hero.
    So a couple of questions left on my mind,
    So, there are no 15.6" 1600x1050 or what so ever screens in the market right?
    So, if I would buy 15.4 and 15.4 bezel, it will totally fit to 15.6 on the outside right?
    Is it very hard and fragile inside the lcd while you are working on it?
    You didn't answer if it is stable without the brackets... Can you confirm this? I mean, when you put it in your backpack and shake it a little, the screen won'tcome off :)
    May be the reason it didn't fit inside was due to LCD cover assembly: http://estore.asus.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=5076&catid=606

    Anyway, thanks a million.!
     
  19. Duct Tape Dude

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    lol thanks! Sorry I'm not answering your questions though-- I'm quoting you so I have them right in front of me this time.

    The only other two 15.6" resolutions I found were 1920x1200 and 1600x900, BUT those were LED-lit so they aren't compatible. 15.6 is so awkward...

    The LCD itself is like plasticish... panel. Think of plexiglass but not so bendy and a bit more brittle probably. It's best to treat it like glass (though it's a bit lighter). There is a frame around, perhaps half a centimeter at most around all the edges. This is what I gorilla taped.

    As for the bracket, it's only on three sides: the left, top and right. The left and right have screws for a 15.6" panel but there is no way to safely bend/drill holes into the bracket to secure the panel. The most important bracket, therefore, is the top one. The panel must be as flush as possible to this one, which is why I glued and taped it to the bracket. I did a sort of deal where I glued the bracket to the top, and then ran tape from one side of the frame, over the bracket, and to the other side of the frame. If you follow it's quite secure. The most major thing to watch out for is to exactly center the screen to the bracket since there's no way to see how centered it is till you put on the bezel. I was about a millimeter too far to the right, but I'll take that. I taped the sides in place to the side brackets as well for extra stability.

    The screen is perfectly stable and from what I can tell, level too. You can't tell I put in a new screen unless I pointed out the millimeter of black space on the left. Well, until you took apart the lid. Then you'd see how absolutely unprofessional it is! lol

    The link you posted looks like it might have the brackets. But for $70 I personally am quite happy with my gorilla tape and glue! lol
    You might want to call them and double check that has brackets. They will be an extra step to replace since they are screwed into the hinge itself.

    I'll have to post pictures, I took a few. In fact I think this project is worthy of a whole thread... Hm...
     
  20. ozdemirhan

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    Thanks a lot for your patient answers :)
    Here is what I found in the middle of the night, itis quite interesting.
    Do you think I can fit a g51 lcd on g50?
    http://base.google.com/base/a/309518/D7577751135601451952
    this is FULLHD
    and it is 15.6,
    there was no way, I could search it otherwise to get a 15.6 wsxga...
    And hearing that there is no other way than gorilla taping, i was quite depressed...your systme is much more economical though.
     
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    Sorry to disappoint but the G51 is an LED-backlit screen. I tried to get this resolution every which way but the only thing I found that was compatible was a 15.4" screen.

    Economical is a hard trade for professional unfortunately. I'm a duct tape dude so I just put the stuff on everything. :)
     
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