seems like CanadaSys has updated with the battery life. 5 min difference when both are being used in the same conditions. What also further confuses things is that the S96J, under similar conditions, could go up to 4! the bigger screen would require more energy I assume
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One important issue make the battery( 8 cell and 6 cell ) life only 5 min. difference, looks like most of the confused people ignored, the fan on W3J kicks in more frequently than A8Jm, that will count alot battery life I believe.
If S96J is like you mentioned with longer time, I guess one reason will be it is more spacious than W3J, save some cooling work, let me do a S96J battery test under the same use today and update it for you later today. -
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alright, great, thanks for the info Danny, this helps alot
So now we can see that the whole package of the laptop depicts batterylife.
Now with Danny's experience, he noticed that the W3J's fans were on more consistently than the a8jm, meaning heat and cooling affects batterylife.
More heat = more fans usage = less batterylife. Aside, another contributor to heat is lower dimensions in size, and thickness, the thinner a laptop is the greater the chance it will run hotter (Dedicated GPU) thus causing battery life to be lower cos of fan usage.
So fans usage is 1 contributors, dimensions is another, the bigger the laptop is the less cooling it may need.
So when comparing the a8jm and W3J the dimensions are bigger for the a8jm, plus it has more features (webcam DVI) than the W3J.
Lets assume the S96 from Danny's test get more batterylife than the W3J and a8jm. In theory it shouldn't because of the bigger screen. However, if you look at reviews so far, the machine is real cool. Meaning the fans usage is low. Thus causing an huge increase in batterylife.
Aside, the dimensions once again are bigger than other notebooks of that calibre, and you all know what 15.4" are in competition with it.
All in all, fans...hehe, we can't calculate how much fans take up in power, but we know the more they spin the worse it is for the laptop in general.
And YES the W3J is hotter than the a8jm, the W3 series has always been hot.
There needs to be better cooling solutions, that don't cause fans to spin as much as they are in current notebook, but this will evolve as technology gets better.
Time will tell.
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We had S96J from about 2 weeks ago, because too busy, now it is
the first time for me to play with it, also do some battery test.
Having heard of different battery life, from 3-4 hours, this is normal
because everybody is using under different circumstances, I am trying to
do a fair test, to test different models under the same use.
I just tested A8Jm and W3J with mid brightness and wireless on, external
optical mouse, typing and internet browsing, I got 2 hours 50 min and
2 hours 55 min.
Now let us go to the topic,the S96J, other than battery life, I will also
give some of my impressions.
I planned to test S96J under the same way as I tested W3J and A8Jm, but
right after I started, I found it will be hard for me to do that, when I set
S96J to mid brightness, it is really dark, of course I can still read it with
no problem, but my eyes don't feel comfortble, so I raised the brightness all
the way to 80%, I will say 80% on S96J gives me the same brightness of 50%
on A8Jm and W3J, let's wait and see under the same actual brightness (not just
set them to their own mid-brightness), what kind of result we can get, lower
than 80% brightness makes my eyes tired.
By now it has been 40 minutes, I don't feel very confident, because the battery
says 1:47 hours (71%) Remaining.
S96J is fairly quite, quiter than A8Jm and W3J, the vent locates at the right
back conner, not at the side like W3J and A8Jm, the fan goes on less as well.
The same with A8Jm and W3J, the right half, both the palm area and keyboard
get warm, slightly warmer than these two 14" models.
I feel the keyboard of W3J and A8Jm is better than S96J.
The 15.4" WXGA is not bad at all, if you don't really need open many windows all
together, you can comfortbly stay with 15.4" WXGA, I will give you guys a screen shot
at the end of writhing to show you the detail of fonts and photo.
The two click buttons on the touch look like the cheapest part of the whole barebone.
I don't know how other tests got 3-4 hours, for me I cannot get that, it is because I set the brightness to 80%, but lower than this is too dark for me, and 50% of A8Jm and W3J is absolutely fine for me. Now it has been 1 hour 45 min, it says 32 min (22%) left. Even I got 2 hours battery life (Don't forget my external USB optical mouse is like a small lamp,
lights up all the time), I will still say for this price and specs, it is a very good deal.
This little bad mouse is stealing my battery power
I will come back later for the final result.
After 2 hour 7 min, I got warning, battery low, connect power adaptor, 8 min ( 6% ) left.
Hope this will help.
Here is the screen shot, the actual display is better than this because screenshot lost a little bit color.
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hmmm interesting, this is just weird lol.
Could 30% difference in screen brightness attribute to a decrease in of batterylife like of 1-2 hours compared to other battery tests of users here on the forum?
Anyways, thanks for the info Danny.
I would like to hear some discussion about these new findings
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are the new graphics cards more power consuming?
Models from last year, ie w3v, z70v, z71v, etc seem to be capable of reaching 4 hours. But it doesn't seem to hold same for the refreshes. Not just Asus, but alot of other brands too (IBM, HP, etc). -
The brightness is definately there, it's insane how a 100% brightness S96j is not as bright as a 50% brightness W3j!
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Goren a lot of people undervolted their laptops to hit 4 hours, other than that they were getting roughly 3.5 hours.
wow, your right cori, hmm i wonder how good the viewing angles are for the S96j.
Also, ATI said there would be a 10-15% boost in batterylife in their X1xxx series compared to Xxxx series.
Meaning the culprit is prolly the yonah and the fact that it can't be undervolted at low settings. Um, there may have been an increase in heating problems, thus causing the fan to spin more, which drains the battery more.
That's all i can think of.
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Viewing angles aren't bad on both, though the W3j screen is brighter, the viewing angles are worse then the Z96j.
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The screen in that pic does look pretty dim for the S96J, especially for it being at 100%, but some people are claiming its a very bright and nice screen for some reason
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Or the W3j screen is just too darn bright
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I'll add my 3Dmark05 score for my S96J here I guess. I got 3961 with the latest omega drivers. I found the screen to be pretty bright actually, I run it usually at 50% very comfortably.
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Tested with asus own recommended drivers
3DMarks2005-2588
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has anyone managed 4000+ (3dmark05) on a W3J?
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3dmark05 - 4210 with latest mobility cat 6.7 stock speeds
3dmark05 - 4867 with mob cat 6.7 at 515/540 overclock (just for fun, don't really need to run it that fast)
Haven't played oblivion but hl2 and Winning Eleven (soccer) both smooth as butta!!
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3dMark05 - 4409 (standard frequencies)
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ok went to the link for ASUS benchmark scores.
mines are as following:
Calculate Pi to 2 million digit 1m 15s
PCMark05 Did not try yet
3DMark Score 4280
It's a W3J T2500@ 2.0 Ghz.
I noticed that the score listed for 3dMark is 4722 when mines is only 4280. Why is my score so low for compared to the one listed. Is it worth mentioning I updated the ATI CCC to 6.8. How could I increase the score? If I buy a gig of RAM, will how much will the score change.
I know the score is not that significant, but I love the feeling of the score the higher it gets.
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awsome work! thanks
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Can you add Z96J?
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hi guys, i'm very dissapointed and confused as to why my Z63A takes 3 whole minutes to calculate to 1M with SuperPi
1.86Ghz
1.00GB RAM
60gb 4200rpm
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hello,
I recently bought an Asus A8jn in a shop in the Netherlands. I got the one with the T5600, the Core2Duo 1.83 ghz. Further specs: 1 G ram, graphics N7300 with 256TC. HD 120 Gb sata 5400 rpm. OS XP-MCE. etc etc.
Using super pi to calculate pi to 2M digits I got the following score: 1 m 13s
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Mine is 450/370 stock for a score of 4000 in '05, and 500/400 for a score of 4500. So as you can see, I'm a little concerned for your card's health (as well as yours). -
I just got an Asus F3Ja.
Specs and stock performance numbers in sig
Stock clocks for the X1600 are 446/347
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Are you plugged in to the wall? If the computer is running off batteries, it will slow down the processor to save power. Sometimes, if the settings are incorrect, it will stay in "economy mode". Check it out in the Control Panel, under Power Options.
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Unstickied and added to the ASUS FAQ.
Discussion is still welcomed here!
Credits are given where its due of course.
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